[nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles

[Raven Tolliver]

Instead of having the leash connected to the collar, you can loop it
through the rabbit ears of the harness, then connect it to a seat belt
or other tie down that way. It's easier to slow or limit sudden
forward motion when restricting their body, rather than restricting
them by their neck.
-- 
Raven
Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
www.1am-editing.com

You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
have or what you do.

Naturally-reared guide dogs
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs

On 10/5/15, Elise Berkley via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello, Michael.  I totally agree with you.  When I cannot get to her (even
> though she will be close to me still), the whole idea of not having that
> total control bothers me.  I am so glad that this is still my choice to tie
> her down or not.  I choose not.
> Elise and Becky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hingson via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 2:50 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Michael Hingson
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>
> Even so, when the dog is tied down away from you control by you of your
> guide dog is lost. This is not a good idea.
>
>
> Mike Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley via
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 2:13 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>
> Hey, everyone.  I got further info on this.  Another driver explained it
> better to me.  The tie down is not connected to the neck.  But, rather, it
> is connected some kind of a way to the harness.  I still have not seen how
> it works, and I  found out I have a choice to do this or not.  It is not a
> requirement.
> Elise and Becky
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jody Ianuzzi via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:55 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Jody Ianuzzi
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>
> There is no way I would tether my dog by his collar in a moving vehicle
> because if the vehicle stop quickly he could break his neck.
>
> JODY 🐺
> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>
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> DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
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>
>
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:47 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think this is useful for people who cannot secure their dogs with
>> their bodies on public transportation. More specifically, we as blind
>> people have ways of positioning our dogs so that they are secured
>> between our legs on buses. People in wheelchairs are typically unable
>> to secure their dogs using their legs, so a tie down might be
>> convenient for such an individual. If you have limited mobility in any
>> way, this might be useful.
>> --
>> Raven
>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>> www.1am-editing.com
>>
>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>> have or what you do.
>>
>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>
>>> On 10/2/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I had really not thought of it before, but I could see some
>>> advantages as long as I can be close to the dog. You wear seatbelts.
>>> However, I don’t know myself how easily you could get the things off.
>>> xo
>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:26 PM, larry d keeler via nagdu
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Never had an issue where it would be required. Interesting concept
>>>> though!
>>>> Personally, I don't really like it much.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise
>>>> Berkley via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 9:56 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Elise Berkley
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>>>>
>>>> They told me she would still be close enough for me to touch.  It
>>>> just makes me nervous when I think of the possibilities of something
>>>> happening and I do not know how to unattach the tie-down.
>>>> Elise and Becky
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cindy Ray via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:43 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>>>>
>>>> How close would you be sitting to her if she were tied down? I think
>>>> it is definitely your decision, but I’m not completely sure.
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Elise Berkley via nagdu
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, everyone.  I wanted to get your thoughts on this.
>>>>> Becky and I were going to school on the Access shuttle and the
>>>>> driver asked me if I wanted Becky tied down.  I did not know what
>>>>> he was talking about and I told him no.  Becky went up the ramp and
>>>>> sat quietly the whole trip (about 10 minutes.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I found out that, for the dog’s safety and so they cannot move
>>>>> around, they have these new gadgets.  You hook a shorter leash in a
>>>>> ring and then the other end gets snapped down where they tie down
>>>>> the wheelchairs.  I really do not like this idea of her being tied
>>>>> down at all.  She is behaved enough not to move around.  I What if
>>>>> we get in an accident, and I cannot get my dog loose.  Maybe they
>>>>> are trying to do a good thing, and maybe I do not understand fully.
>>>>> Let Becky and I know what you think.
>>>>> Elise and Becky (San Diego bound)
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