[nagdu] Accidents, please help!

Steven Johnson blinddog3 at charter.net
Mon Oct 12 23:25:02 UTC 2015 

It's a good idea to have him checked out as it sounds like his water intake has also been significant.  Could be a number of issues, so ruling out the possibilities one at a time is only something a vet can do.  Good luck to you and the pup,

Steve & Benny


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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alysha via nagdu
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 6:22 PM
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Cc: Alysha
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Accidents, please help!

Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm going to give my vet a call to see if there is anything medical that could be going on that would not have been caught on the bloodwork and urinalysis they've already done. I'm also going to try only giving him 1 cup of water at a time 4-5 times a day and see if that helps. If anyone has any other suggestions or thoughts, I'd love to hear them!

Thanks,
Alysha

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jody Ianuzzi via nagdu
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Accidents, please help!

Is it possible he is going because he has a urinary tract infection?

JODY 🐺
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> On Oct 12, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>            Why not put bells on the different floors of your house and 
> then put him in a crate or tie-down when you're showering?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Alysha via 
> nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 9:43 AM
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> Cc: Alysha <alyshaj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Accidents, please help!
> 
> Raven,
> It seems like he really has to go based on the large amount of urine 
> that he passes. Usually after he has an accident, I take him 
> immediately outside where he pees even more. He gives me absolutely no 
> sign that I, my boyfriend, or my mom has noticed that he needs to go, 
> and he has mastered peeing while he is walking without really changing 
> his pace or pull. This means that I am constantly worried that he will 
> pee and I will not even notice it. I was able to reduce the number of 
> accidents he has in the house by hanging a bell on the front door and 
> teaching him to ring it when he wants to go out. This definitely 
> helped, but it does not work if he is on a different floor of the 
> house from the front door (I have 3 levels), or if I am doing 
> something like showering, sleeping, etc. when I can't hear the bell. I 
> wish I could teach him to do something to indicate that he has to go 
> that would work anywhere in or out of the house, but I haven't thought of a good signal. Thanks so much for your help!
> 
> Alysha
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven 
> Tolliver via nagdu
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> Cc: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Accidents, please help!
> 
> Alysha,
> You said in your message that it seems like he "really has to go."
> What do you mean by this? Does he show signs that he needs to urinate, 
> but perhaps you are not in a place where you can drop what your doing 
> to dash out the door?
> Does his gait, pace or pull change at all when he's about to have an 
> accident? Some dogs display very subtle signs that they need to 
> relieve themselves.
> 
> Do you think he is having trouble with bladder control? Two accidents 
> a month doesn't make me believe that is the case, but it's worth 
> tossing out there. And there are remedies to help with bladder 
> control. The sooner we know exactly what the problem is, the sooner it can be rectified.
> --
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>> On 10/9/15, Alysha via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My 2-year-old pup has had several accidents both in the house and in 
>> a couple of stores while working. Thank goodness he hasn't had any 
>> problems in our low-key office setting, but if we go somewhere where 
>> more walking is involved, it seems all bets are off. It does not seem 
>> like marking behavior.
>> He usually just starts to pee as he is walking and leaves a long 
>> stream behind him. He always seems to really have to go, so I don't 
>> think he's just spraying a little to mark his scent. He started doing 
>> this the first couple of days in class in January when I got him. The 
>> instructors thought it might have been stress-related, and it really 
>> died down after the first week of class, so we thought he would be 
>> fine. He did well for a few months after I brought him home, but for 
>> the last couple of months it's become a big problem again. I try to 
>> give him a chance to park every time before we go into a store. He's 
>> averaging about 2 accidents a month. I do not give him free water, 
>> and I take him out between 6 and 10 times a day. At the moment, he's 
>> eating wet (raw) food and only gets 4 cups of water a day on top of 
>> that. I took him to the vet where they ran bloodwork and did an exam, 
>> and they said everything was normal. I'm really stressed about this 
>> as I feel like I can't give him water for several hours before I plan 
>> to go somewhere without worrying about him leaving puddles. It is 
>> truly mortifying when your guide dog pees in a business, and I'm 
>> really worried I may have to retire him over this although his work 
>> is quite good otherwise. I'm looking for any suggestions about how to 
>> stop this behavior. Has anyone had this problem and successfully 
>> worked through it? Please, any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Alysha
>> 
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