[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 132, Issue 31
Mardi Hadfield
wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com
Fri Apr 1 08:04:01 UTC 2016
Hi Abby and all, Mardi here. I have had the same things happen to me and my
dogs. I teach my dogs to find the button, but I press it my self,as I need
to back up a bit so the door does not hit me or my dog. Well meaning people
who have pushed the button before I got the chance,did not give me time to
back up and the door hits my wheelchair if I am lucky. It has hit me in the
face on one occasion.Once, my dog got hit in the face. Both my dogs now
back up before I do so they don't get hit.When the people do this,they
usually say "Oh, I'm sorry" but the damage is already done by the time they
are apologizing. On the day the door hit me in the face, I just sat there
until the apologizing person went in ahead of me and then my dog and I went
through the door after I, pushed the button.On the day that Neechee got hit
in the face, I made a big deal about how my poor dog was hurt and she
needed to sit for a while so she could recover,while I rubbed her face and
said,"Oh my poor baby". I know that person felt bad about the door hitting
my dog, but I was angry. Neechee is such a soft dog that it's her feelings
that are hurt more than her physical pain. I guess, maybe, I hope, that
people will get some common sense some day. Mardi and Shaman,semi-retired
and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT.
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> 1. Re: something that happened to me today (Caitlyn Furness)
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> 3. {Spam?} Re: Joint supplements (S L Johnson)
> 4. TAGDU-TN Association of Guide Dog Users Seminar- Live Stream
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> 5. Re: something that happened to me today (Julie J.)
> 6. Re: Joint supplements (Julie J.)
> 7. Re: Joint supplements (Deanna Lewis)
> 8. Re: something that happened to me today (larry d keeler)
> 9. Re: something that happened to me today (Danielle Sykora)
> 10. Re: something that happened to me today (Star Gazer)
> 11. Re: Joint supplements (Tami Jarvis)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:22:19 -0400
> From: Caitlyn Furness <caitlyn.furness at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
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> I agree. Practicing as much as you can will definitely help.
>
> this is also a common problem for us guide dog handlers when we approach
> a door. People always want or feel like they have to open them for us.
> they are just being nice, but it creates problems, because the dogs soon
> figure out that they don?t need to take us all the way up to the door,
> because somebody else will open it.
>
> you just also have to do the best you can. I try and explain to people
> when I have the time. Sadly, though, lots just get offended and don?t
> really listen to the explanations of why..
>
> Caitlyn
>
> > On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:05 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > I understand how you are feeling, but maybe for a while you need to find
> > buttons daily so it is cemented into the pup's brain. People don't get
> > "button" commands, and so you can't completely fault that. I understand
> the
> > frustration though.
> > Cindy Lou Ray
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abby Bolling
> via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:29 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Abby Bolling <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> >
> > Hi all!
> > Well, I had an interesting day today! And here is the rant I put on FB
> > because I've started using FB like a blog... (I really need to just get a
> > blog and get it over with...) Anyway!
> >
> > **Begin FB Post**
> >
> > My dog should know the command "Find the button" by now. But she doesn't!
> > Why?
> > Because people keep coming up behind me and pushing it for her when she
> is
> > no where near it. I understand people trying to help, but the person who
> did
> > this today, you didn't help, you actually just undid about three weeks of
> > target training that we as a team were working on. Help is always
> > appreciated, don't get me wrong, but ASK!!!
> > Think of the situation this way. You have a three-year-old child who has
> > just thrown a temper tantrum in the grocery store. You get up to the
> check
> > out and the child wants a candy bar. You tell him/her no because they
> > mis-behaved. What would you do as a parent if the casheer just reached
> over
> > and handed your child a candy bar after you told them no?
> > In essence, that is what this person just did to me and my dog. I want
> her
> > to find the button, that is why I told her "Button" but in this person
> > pushing the button for me when I was no where near it taught Cricket
> that it
> > is ok to ignore the command "button" and instead that she can go to the
> > "door." Which is not acceptable behavior. I have taught her "button" for
> a
> > reason, and now I have to re-teach her "button." and I am a student! I
> don't
> > have time to re-teach my dog commands because people won't let her do her
> > job!
> >
> > ** end of post**
> >
> > After my class, Cricket and I walked around the Student Union for about a
> > half an hour finding buttons for her to target. She finally got it, but
> > let's hope that the training will stick until Thursday when I can get
> back
> > on campus. She's a smart girl, so I hope and pray that it will...
> > But, I still don't get humanity.
> >
> > --
> > Abigail M. Bolling
> > Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
> > Phone: (513) 512-3456
> > Email: bolling.8 at wright.edu
> > Abilities United: Secretary
> > Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users, a chapter of the National
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:33:52 +0000
> From: Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> (nagdu at nfbnet.org)" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
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> Hi all,
> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom and
> stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it hurts
> him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a glucosamine/chondroitin pill,
> would I need to get one specifically formulated for dogs? Can you all
> recommend any particular brands or the best place to purchase joint
> supplements?
> Thanks for your help.
> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:51:45 -0400
> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: Joint supplements
> Message-ID: <3C34D650CF5B43CC99AC2CFC9EC9334B at SLJohnson>
>
> Deanna:
>
> If you go to any of the pet websites, they have several joint supplements
> to
> choose from. One site I have used is www.petsupplies4less.com
> Note, in the above web address, it is the number 4 not the word for.
> That site has a lot of supplements for allergies, arthritis and other
> conditions. They also have the flea protection and heart worm at a much
> cheaper price than most veterinarian offices. I hope this helps.
>
> Sandra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deanna Lewis via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:33 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users(nagdu at nfbnet.org)
> Cc: Deanna Lewis
> Subject: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
>
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom and
> stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it hurts
> him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a glucosamine/chondroitin pill,
> would I need to get one specifically formulated for dogs? Can you all
> recommend any particular brands or the best place to purchase joint
> supplements?
> Thanks for your help.
> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:08:18 -0500
> From: TAGDU EMAIL <president.tagdu at nfb-tn.org>
> To: National Association of Guide Dog Users Gwizdala
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] TAGDU-TN Association of Guide Dog Users Seminar- Live
> Stream
> Message-ID: <67C2A3FC-0BA1-4FB9-A9A7-415C1B919325 at nfb-tn.org>
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> Dear NAGDU family,
> Friday, April 1st, from 7-9 pm Central time, we will hold our
> annual ?Hup-Up" seminar! You can listen via the live stream found at
> www.nfb-tn.org. The stream may not begin until a few minutes after 7, so
> please be patient as the stream is set up. Please find our agenda below.
> 2016 TAGDU Hup-Up Seminar
>
> 7:00 - 7:10 Introduction and greetings
> 7:10 - 7:30
> Guest Dawn Brady, Guide Dogs for the Blind
> What is new at GDB? Ask Dawn your questions.
> 7:30 - 7:50
> Traveling Abroad with your Guide Dog Panel
> Panel comprised of TAGDU members Stephanie Zundel, Shea Welch, and
> Demetrius Kouniaris
> What process is involved to travel internationally? What were their
> experiences? Ask your questions.
> 7:50 - 8:10
> How to Extend the Health and Life of your team
> Guest Veterinarian Tate Singleton from Southside Animal Clinic in
> Nashville,TN
> 8:10 - 8:30
> Guest Julie Johnson, Blind Guide Dog Trainer and Author
> What is involved in training a guide dog as a blind individual? Ask Julie
> your questions.
> 8:30-8:50
> Elections for president, secretary, and board member
> Please spend the remainder of the evening networking and building
> relationships with our guests and fellow guide dog users.
> Best,
>
> James Alan Boehm
> Contact Information:
> Phone: 901-483-1515
> Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com
> NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org
> Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com
>
> Blindness never limits-low expectations do! Live the life you want!
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:22:58 -0500
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> Message-ID: <2856C2D79419409D94F61CC977B4BDB7 at JuliePC>
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> reply-type=original
>
> When stuff like this happens to me, I just politely tell the person that
> the
> dog needs to show me or that I'm working on a new skill with her. I let
> them know I appreciate the gesture, but that I'd appreciate it even more if
> they'd move along. Mostly it works.
>
> The other day I was at the school just as it was getting out. Jetta took
> me
> up to the door closest to the push button you have to ring so they will let
> you in. It's a security thing. Anyhow there were lots of people coming
> out
> other doors. Some lady was holding a different door for me and trying to
> talk me into using that one, which is fine except there were kids still
> coming out. Jetta of course, is not going to trample kids so she can go
> through, which the lady didn't understand. Apparently she thought the kids
> should move out of the way. Finally I told the lady that the dog needed to
> make the decision and do her job, which seemed to make sense to the lady
> and
> we finally got in the building without trampling children.
>
> I get you though. Sometimes it just feels like a much, much bigger deal
> than it needs to be. 99% of the time I'm fine with the explaining and the
> patience. Every now and then though, I've just had enough. I remember
> once
> Monty had stopped and indicated the door to me. I was reaching for the
> handle when some well meaning person pushed the automatic door opener
> button. The door swung open and mashed my toes in the process. I think
> there were bad words involved that day.
>
> I do my best, and when I don't, I breathe and remind myself that there will
> be many, many more opportunities to do better.
>
> Julie
> Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
> available! Get the book here:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXZSMOC
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:28:09 -0500
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
> Message-ID: <7933078B7E9B4007A54931E2F0BF546F at JuliePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I'm using the joint supplements from Springtime. They are a dog specific
> kind. You don't have to give a dog specific product. Check dosages
> though.
> I like the dog supplements because they are beef flavored and I can toss
> them in the food bowls. I did use to give the people kind though. they
> only come in pill form and my dog then wouldn't just take it and eat it. I
> had to give it to her like a pill, which is more work. So yes, I'm
> admitting laziness! LOL
>
> Julie
> Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
> available! Get the book here:
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXZSMOC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deanna Lewis via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:33 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users(nagdu at nfbnet.org)
> Cc: Deanna Lewis
> Subject: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
>
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom and
> stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it hurts
> him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a glucosamine/chondroitin pill,
> would I need to get one specifically formulated for dogs? Can you all
> recommend any particular brands or the best place to purchase joint
> supplements?
> Thanks for your help.
> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:36:57 +0000
> From: Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
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> Sandra,
> Cool, I have not heard of this site before. I will check it out, thanks so
> much!
> Deanna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:52 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: Joint supplements
>
> Deanna:
>
> If you go to any of the pet websites, they have several joint supplements
> to choose from. One site I have used is www.petsupplies4less.com Note,
> in the above web address, it is the number 4 not the word for.
> That site has a lot of supplements for allergies, arthritis and other
> conditions. They also have the flea protection and heart worm at a much
> cheaper price than most veterinarian offices. I hope this helps.
>
> Sandra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deanna Lewis via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:33 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users(nagdu at nfbnet.org)
> Cc: Deanna Lewis
> Subject: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
>
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom
> and stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it
> hurts him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a glucosamine/chondroitin
> pill, would I need to get one specifically formulated for dogs? Can you all
> recommend any particular brands or the best place to purchase joint
> supplements?
> Thanks for your help.
> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:45:33 -0400
> From: "larry d keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
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> Holly actually is really good at that! I tell her to find pole. She does
> and
> puts her nose on the button. I should teach her how to press the thing!
> But,
> I usually don't fuss if someone else presses it. A couple of times, I have
> just told someone to hold on and watch. They can be amazed that Holly finds
> the button for me!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:06 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
>
> I understand how you are feeling, but maybe for a while you need to find
> buttons daily so it is cemented into the pup's brain. People don't get
> "button" commands, and so you can't completely fault that. I understand the
> frustration though.
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abby Bolling
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:29 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Abby Bolling <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
>
> Hi all!
> Well, I had an interesting day today! And here is the rant I put on FB
> because I've started using FB like a blog... (I really need to just get a
> blog and get it over with...) Anyway!
>
> **Begin FB Post**
>
> My dog should know the command "Find the button" by now. But she doesn't!
> Why?
> Because people keep coming up behind me and pushing it for her when she is
> no where near it. I understand people trying to help, but the person who
> did
> this today, you didn't help, you actually just undid about three weeks of
> target training that we as a team were working on. Help is always
> appreciated, don't get me wrong, but ASK!!!
> Think of the situation this way. You have a three-year-old child who has
> just thrown a temper tantrum in the grocery store. You get up to the check
> out and the child wants a candy bar. You tell him/her no because they
> mis-behaved. What would you do as a parent if the casheer just reached over
> and handed your child a candy bar after you told them no?
> In essence, that is what this person just did to me and my dog. I want her
> to find the button, that is why I told her "Button" but in this person
> pushing the button for me when I was no where near it taught Cricket that
> it
> is ok to ignore the command "button" and instead that she can go to the
> "door." Which is not acceptable behavior. I have taught her "button" for a
> reason, and now I have to re-teach her "button." and I am a student! I
> don't
> have time to re-teach my dog commands because people won't let her do her
> job!
>
> ** end of post**
>
> After my class, Cricket and I walked around the Student Union for about a
> half an hour finding buttons for her to target. She finally got it, but
> let's hope that the training will stick until Thursday when I can get back
> on campus. She's a smart girl, so I hope and pray that it will...
> But, I still don't get humanity.
>
> --
> Abigail M. Bolling
> Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
> Phone: (513) 512-3456
> Email: bolling.8 at wright.edu
> Abilities United: Secretary
> Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users, a chapter of the National Federation
> of
> the Blind of Ohio: Secretary "keep a smile on your face and a song in your
> heart, and just let the music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond) "Dance like
> no
> one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like no one is
> listening, and live like it's Heaven on earth." (William Purkey) The
> National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back.
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:30:49 -0400
> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
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> Yes Abby, I know how frustrating that can be. The problem I usually
> have with people is them opening doors for me but not actually
> thinking when they do so. Often times, I have people behind me who
> reach in front of me when I'm standing right in front of the door and
> end up hitting Thai in the face because he doesn't have the time or
> space to move out of the way. Now, he stops a foot or so back from
> certain doors that open outward because he understandably doesn't want
> to be hit by the door. Also, people usually only open the door part
> way and then act like Thai is being ridiculous when he doesn't want to
> go through. Um, my dog isn't going to just walk through an opening
> that isn't wide enough for both of us without stopping to show it to
> me. Then add to that the people who think my dog should push the
> button to open the door for me like the wheel chair assistance dog on
> campus does, because apparently finding me the door I have no problem
> opening myself or even showing me the button I can push isn't good
> enough for a guide dog.
>
> Danielle and Thai
>
> On 3/30/16, larry d keeler via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Holly actually is really good at that! I tell her to find pole. She does
> > and
> > puts her nose on the button. I should teach her how to press the thing!
> > But,
> > I usually don't fuss if someone else presses it. A couple of times, I
> have
> > just told someone to hold on and watch. They can be amazed that Holly
> finds
> > the button for me!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:06 AM
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> > Cc: Cindy Ray
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> >
> > I understand how you are feeling, but maybe for a while you need to find
> > buttons daily so it is cemented into the pup's brain. People don't get
> > "button" commands, and so you can't completely fault that. I understand
> the
> > frustration though.
> > Cindy Lou Ray
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abby Bolling
> via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:29 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Abby Bolling <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> >
> > Hi all!
> > Well, I had an interesting day today! And here is the rant I put on FB
> > because I've started using FB like a blog... (I really need to just get a
> > blog and get it over with...) Anyway!
> >
> > **Begin FB Post**
> >
> > My dog should know the command "Find the button" by now. But she doesn't!
> > Why?
> > Because people keep coming up behind me and pushing it for her when she
> is
> > no where near it. I understand people trying to help, but the person who
> > did
> > this today, you didn't help, you actually just undid about three weeks of
> > target training that we as a team were working on. Help is always
> > appreciated, don't get me wrong, but ASK!!!
> > Think of the situation this way. You have a three-year-old child who has
> > just thrown a temper tantrum in the grocery store. You get up to the
> check
> > out and the child wants a candy bar. You tell him/her no because they
> > mis-behaved. What would you do as a parent if the casheer just reached
> over
> > and handed your child a candy bar after you told them no?
> > In essence, that is what this person just did to me and my dog. I want
> her
> > to find the button, that is why I told her "Button" but in this person
> > pushing the button for me when I was no where near it taught Cricket that
> > it
> > is ok to ignore the command "button" and instead that she can go to the
> > "door." Which is not acceptable behavior. I have taught her "button" for
> a
> > reason, and now I have to re-teach her "button." and I am a student! I
> > don't
> > have time to re-teach my dog commands because people won't let her do her
> > job!
> >
> > ** end of post**
> >
> > After my class, Cricket and I walked around the Student Union for about a
> > half an hour finding buttons for her to target. She finally got it, but
> > let's hope that the training will stick until Thursday when I can get
> back
> > on campus. She's a smart girl, so I hope and pray that it will...
> > But, I still don't get humanity.
> >
> > --
> > Abigail M. Bolling
> > Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
> > Phone: (513) 512-3456
> > Email: bolling.8 at wright.edu
> > Abilities United: Secretary
> > Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users, a chapter of the National Federation
> > of
> > the Blind of Ohio: Secretary "keep a smile on your face and a song in
> your
> > heart, and just let the music play." (Julie Anderson-Diamond) "Dance like
> > no
> > one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like no one is
> > listening, and live like it's Heaven on earth." (William Purkey) The
> > National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> > characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> > expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> > between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> > blindness is not what holds you back.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:49:48 -0400
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> Message-ID: <037901d18a9b$ca6adce0$5f4096a0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Oh Danielle, I remember all these
> issues very well. It drove me bonkers!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Sykora
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:31 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
>
> Yes Abby, I know how frustrating that can be. The problem I usually have
> with people is them opening doors for me but not actually thinking when
> they
> do so. Often times, I have people behind me who reach in front of me when
> I'm standing right in front of the door and end up hitting Thai in the face
> because he doesn't have the time or space to move out of the way. Now, he
> stops a foot or so back from certain doors that open outward because he
> understandably doesn't want to be hit by the door. Also, people usually
> only
> open the door part way and then act like Thai is being ridiculous when he
> doesn't want to go through. Um, my dog isn't going to just walk through an
> opening that isn't wide enough for both of us without stopping to show it
> to
> me. Then add to that the people who think my dog should push the button to
> open the door for me like the wheel chair assistance dog on campus does,
> because apparently finding me the door I have no problem opening myself or
> even showing me the button I can push isn't good enough for a guide dog.
>
> Danielle and Thai
>
> On 3/30/16, larry d keeler via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Holly actually is really good at that! I tell her to find pole. She
> > does and puts her nose on the button. I should teach her how to press
> > the thing!
> > But,
> > I usually don't fuss if someone else presses it. A couple of times, I
> > have just told someone to hold on and watch. They can be amazed that
> > Holly finds the button for me!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> > via NAGDU
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:06 AM
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> > Cc: Cindy Ray
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> >
> > I understand how you are feeling, but maybe for a while you need to
> > find buttons daily so it is cemented into the pup's brain. People
> > don't get "button" commands, and so you can't completely fault that. I
> > understand the frustration though.
> > Cindy Lou Ray
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abby
> > Bolling via NAGDU
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:29 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Abby Bolling <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] something that happened to me today
> >
> > Hi all!
> > Well, I had an interesting day today! And here is the rant I put on FB
> > because I've started using FB like a blog... (I really need to just
> > get a blog and get it over with...) Anyway!
> >
> > **Begin FB Post**
> >
> > My dog should know the command "Find the button" by now. But she doesn't!
> > Why?
> > Because people keep coming up behind me and pushing it for her when
> > she is no where near it. I understand people trying to help, but the
> > person who did this today, you didn't help, you actually just undid
> > about three weeks of target training that we as a team were working
> > on. Help is always appreciated, don't get me wrong, but ASK!!!
> > Think of the situation this way. You have a three-year-old child who
> > has just thrown a temper tantrum in the grocery store. You get up to
> > the check out and the child wants a candy bar. You tell him/her no
> > because they mis-behaved. What would you do as a parent if the casheer
> > just reached over and handed your child a candy bar after you told them
> no?
> > In essence, that is what this person just did to me and my dog. I want
> > her to find the button, that is why I told her "Button" but in this
> > person pushing the button for me when I was no where near it taught
> > Cricket that it is ok to ignore the command "button" and instead that
> > she can go to the "door." Which is not acceptable behavior. I have
> > taught her "button" for a reason, and now I have to re-teach her
> > "button." and I am a student! I don't have time to re-teach my dog
> > commands because people won't let her do her job!
> >
> > ** end of post**
> >
> > After my class, Cricket and I walked around the Student Union for
> > about a half an hour finding buttons for her to target. She finally
> > got it, but let's hope that the training will stick until Thursday
> > when I can get back on campus. She's a smart girl, so I hope and pray
> that
> it will...
> > But, I still don't get humanity.
> >
> > --
> > Abigail M. Bolling
> > Wright State University-2018: Rehabilitation Services
> > Phone: (513) 512-3456
> > Email: bolling.8 at wright.edu
> > Abilities United: Secretary
> > Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users, a chapter of the National
> > Federation of the Blind of Ohio: Secretary "keep a smile on your face
> > and a song in your heart, and just let the music play." (Julie
> > Anderson-Diamond) "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll
> > never be hurt, sing like no one is listening, and live like it's
> > Heaven on earth." (William Purkey) The National Federation of the
> > Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you
> > or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people,
> > because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our
> > dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds
> > you back.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NAGDU mailing list
> > NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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> > m
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:21:45 -0700
> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Joint supplements
> Message-ID: <56FBFD19.7040703 at poodlemutt.com>
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>
> Deanna,
>
> I'm using Glycoflex Ultimate III with Mitzi, and it's made a difference
> with her spondylosis and really noticed a difference in her activity
> level. I also started adding water to her food to see if it helped her
> tummy, since she can sometimes have acid reflux, and she perked up even
> more. I get the Glycoflex at chewy.com, which has a bunch of supplements
> to choose from. It's still spendy, even at their prices, but seems to be
> worth it.
>
> hth,
>
> Tami
>
> On 03/30/2016 05:33 AM, Deanna Lewis via NAGDU wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom and
> stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it hurts
> him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a glucosamine/chondroitin pill,
> would I need to get one specifically formulated for dogs? Can you all
> recommend any particular brands or the best place to purchase joint
> supplements?
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:57:28 -0700
> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Re: something that happened to me today
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> I also find the "just doing her job, ma'am," approach works best, when I
> remember to do that first. Or, with the trainee, "he needs to learn."
> What really makes me grit my teeth is the guy who holds the door open
> with his arm across the opening at head height, often while partially
> blocking the opening with his body... Then calls my dog impatiently or
> huffs at me or both. Okay, so a lot of the time, that guy is my husband.
> Maybe that's why it seems to be a guy thing, especially fairly tall
> guys... They're probably used to us l'il ol' gals being able to duck
> under their arms as we squeeze through or something, so it works just
> fine. Then I come along with my cane and bump my head on their arm or
> try to go through the wall because I assume they wouldn't be standing
> *in* the doorway while I'm trying to walk through... Then I come along
> with my dog, and my dog treats them like an obstacle. Hubby usually
> remembers now, but sometimes I have to remind him. Sigh.
>
> Help with escalators was the real nightmare with Mitzi. I nearly ended
> up falling on my head when I got on just as a helper grabbed her harness
> handle, which freaked her out. It was her second time on the escalator,
> so she was still a bit hesitant to begin with, and the grab was just too
> much. So I had to let go of the leash, just as he let go, so there I was
> going up while they ran around below. I was terrified she would go on
> the escalator and get her leash caught, but somehow he caught her and
> got her up to me and was so apologetic I couldn't go for his throat as I
> wanted to. We had some successful escalator rides, so I thought we were
> good, but then we were about to get on an escalator when a crowd walked
> up, and Mitzi balked. This time, I managed to run down the up escalator
> to reconnect with my dog who was trying to get to me while avoiding
> being grabbed. What a circus. Sigh. I must have developed the art of
> looking forbidding around escalators, because we never had a repeat. Whew!
>
> I've also had people show me the push button for disabled people to open
> the door, and I think at least one has rushed to push it for me. At
> least it didn't catch my toes. The logic seems to be that since the
> button is for disabled people who can't open the door manually, all
> disabled people must not be able to open a door by themselves.
> Attempting to point out that blindness doesn't stop me opening doors and
> that it's easier to find the door handle than the button doesn't seem to
> get through that logic. More sighs.
>
> I think once the dog has learned the skill of showing the button, then
> having someone push it doesn't mess things up too badly. To get the dog
> solid, though, you either need to find deserted elevators or have the
> dog show you even after a human has done so. If you hear a human coming
> in time, you can also just amaze them by glibly announcing that you're
> teaching the dog to show you the button or that the dog is showing you
> the button. That's fascinating! /lol/
>
> Good luck. She'll get it one way or the other.
>
> Tami
>
> On 03/30/2016 06:22 AM, Julie J. via NAGDU wrote:
> > When stuff like this happens to me, I just politely tell the person that
> > the dog needs to show me or that I'm working on a new skill with her. I
> > let them know I appreciate the gesture, but that I'd appreciate it even
> > more if they'd move along. Mostly it works.
> >
> > The other day I was at the school just as it was getting out. Jetta
> > took me up to the door closest to the push button you have to ring so
> > they will let you in. It's a security thing. Anyhow there were lots of
> > people coming out other doors. Some lady was holding a different door
> > for me and trying to talk me into using that one, which is fine except
> > there were kids still coming out. Jetta of course, is not going to
> > trample kids so she can go through, which the lady didn't understand.
> > Apparently she thought the kids should move out of the way. Finally I
> > told the lady that the dog needed to make the decision and do her job,
> > which seemed to make sense to the lady and we finally got in the
> > building without trampling children.
> >
> > I get you though. Sometimes it just feels like a much, much bigger deal
> > than it needs to be. 99% of the time I'm fine with the explaining and
> > the patience. Every now and then though, I've just had enough. I
> > remember once Monty had stopped and indicated the door to me. I was
> > reaching for the handle when some well meaning person pushed the
> > automatic door opener button. The door swung open and mashed my toes in
> > the process. I think there were bad words involved that day.
> >
> > I do my best, and when I don't, I breathe and remind myself that there
> > will be many, many more opportunities to do better.
> >
> > Julie
> > Courage to Dare: A Blind Woman's Quest to Train her Own Guide Dog is now
> > available! Get the book here:
> > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QXZSMOC
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:02:12 +0300
> From: nagdu <dawn0713 at comcast.net>
> To: "nagdu TN Nashville Jason Kennedy" <kennedys at bellsouth.net>,
> "nagdu junior farley nashville area" <juniorfarley at comcast.net>,
> "nagdu kelby Vanderbilt Carlson" <kelbycarlson at gmail.com>,
> "nagdu-request" <nagdu-request at nfbnet.org>, "nagdu" <
> nagdu at NFBNET.ORG>
> Subject: [NAGDU] {Spam?} Fw: new important message
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello!
>
>
>
> New message, please read <http://magyar.ggis.hu/five.php?45l>
>
>
>
> nagdu
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:11:24 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Older dog digestive aids
> Message-ID: <91e20b81129149869455ee2952cbcc67.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hi Tami.
> You mention Mitzi has had some digestion issues. (How can Mitzi be old?!)
> Ben was having periodic issues too. We have been giving him digestive
> enzymes, bought on Amazon, and feeding him 4 small meals spaced through
> the day, instead of 2 larger meals. Whichever thing is working, he hasn't
> had any problems since we started this regimen.
> Tracy
>
> > Deanna,
> >
> > I'm using Glycoflex Ultimate III with Mitzi, and it's made a difference
> > with her spondylosis and really noticed a difference in her activity
> > level. I also started adding water to her food to see if it helped her
> > tummy, since she can sometimes have acid reflux, and she perked up even
> > more. I get the Glycoflex at chewy.com, which has a bunch of supplements
> > to choose from. It's still spendy, even at their prices, but seems to be
> > worth it.
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > Tami
> >
> > On 03/30/2016 05:33 AM, Deanna Lewis via NAGDU wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> >> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom
> >> and stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it
> >> hurts him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a
> >> glucosamine/chondroitin pill, would I need to get one specifically
> >> formulated for dogs? Can you all recommend any particular brands or the
> >> best place to purchase joint supplements?
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:54:43 -0700
> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Older dog digestive aids
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> Tracy,
>
> Hm... That might be something to try, too. Thanks for the suggestion.
> Probiotics wouldn't hurt, either. We don't want to give her pain meds if
> we can avoid it because of her tummy. I've given her pepcid off and on,
> but I don't want to do too much of that, either. So I tried the water in
> the food after a discussion about that here, since I'm feeding her less
> since she's less active. Round and round it goes.
>
> Yeah, I can't believe Ben is older and retired, either, Krokus or no
> Krokus. /lol/ It makes it hard to get with the senior dog program when
> I'm in denial that my dog is now or ever has been or ever will be a
> senior. Sigh. She's in general good health, and we found the spondylosis
> early since I thought her change in behavior might be another bladder
> stone and had her x-rayed. She gets some muscle spasm from it, but that
> seems to respond to massage as well as more movement as she feels better.
>
> I'll try the 4 small meals with her and remember to sneak some
> probiotics in when I re-order the Glycoflex. Hubby is not on the
> probiotic bandwagon, so the mention of spending money on such nonsense
> results in derisive grumbling. So I'll just have to order it and then
> show him the miraculous results! Such is married life. /lol/
>
> Tami
>
> On 03/30/2016 10:11 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> > Hi Tami.
> > You mention Mitzi has had some digestion issues. (How can Mitzi be
> old?!)
> > Ben was having periodic issues too. We have been giving him digestive
> > enzymes, bought on Amazon, and feeding him 4 small meals spaced through
> > the day, instead of 2 larger meals. Whichever thing is working, he
> hasn't
> > had any problems since we started this regimen.
> > Tracy
> >
> >> Deanna,
> >>
> >> I'm using Glycoflex Ultimate III with Mitzi, and it's made a difference
> >> with her spondylosis and really noticed a difference in her activity
> >> level. I also started adding water to her food to see if it helped her
> >> tummy, since she can sometimes have acid reflux, and she perked up even
> >> more. I get the Glycoflex at chewy.com, which has a bunch of
> supplements
> >> to choose from. It's still spendy, even at their prices, but seems to be
> >> worth it.
> >>
> >> hth,
> >>
> >> Tami
> >>
> >> On 03/30/2016 05:33 AM, Deanna Lewis via NAGDU wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> >>> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my mom
> >>> and stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and it
> >>> hurts him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a
> >>> glucosamine/chondroitin pill, would I need to get one specifically
> >>> formulated for dogs? Can you all recommend any particular brands or the
> >>> best place to purchase joint supplements?
> >>> Thanks for your help.
> >>> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:02:51 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Older dog digestive aids
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> Tami,
> It's my opinion that the enzymes are doing Ben the most good, but, since
> everything is going well, we haven't changed either variable to find out
> which is the most effective.
> There are probiotics built in to what they're eating, though I don't know
> at what point they're added, and thus how effective they are.
> It's good that massage helps Mitzi. Cheap, easy, and I bet she loves a
> good massage. I can just picture Her Fluffiness stretched out with a
> blissful look on her face.
> Tracy
>
> > Tracy,
> >
> > Hm... That might be something to try, too. Thanks for the suggestion.
> > Probiotics wouldn't hurt, either. We don't want to give her pain meds if
> > we can avoid it because of her tummy. I've given her pepcid off and on,
> > but I don't want to do too much of that, either. So I tried the water in
> > the food after a discussion about that here, since I'm feeding her less
> > since she's less active. Round and round it goes.
> >
> > Yeah, I can't believe Ben is older and retired, either, Krokus or no
> > Krokus. /lol/ It makes it hard to get with the senior dog program when
> > I'm in denial that my dog is now or ever has been or ever will be a
> > senior. Sigh. She's in general good health, and we found the spondylosis
> > early since I thought her change in behavior might be another bladder
> > stone and had her x-rayed. She gets some muscle spasm from it, but that
> > seems to respond to massage as well as more movement as she feels better.
> >
> > I'll try the 4 small meals with her and remember to sneak some
> > probiotics in when I re-order the Glycoflex. Hubby is not on the
> > probiotic bandwagon, so the mention of spending money on such nonsense
> > results in derisive grumbling. So I'll just have to order it and then
> > show him the miraculous results! Such is married life. /lol/
> >
> > Tami
> >
> > On 03/30/2016 10:11 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> >> Hi Tami.
> >> You mention Mitzi has had some digestion issues. (How can Mitzi be
> >> old?!)
> >> Ben was having periodic issues too. We have been giving him digestive
> >> enzymes, bought on Amazon, and feeding him 4 small meals spaced through
> >> the day, instead of 2 larger meals. Whichever thing is working, he
> >> hasn't
> >> had any problems since we started this regimen.
> >> Tracy
> >>
> >>> Deanna,
> >>>
> >>> I'm using Glycoflex Ultimate III with Mitzi, and it's made a difference
> >>> with her spondylosis and really noticed a difference in her activity
> >>> level. I also started adding water to her food to see if it helped her
> >>> tummy, since she can sometimes have acid reflux, and she perked up even
> >>> more. I get the Glycoflex at chewy.com, which has a bunch of
> >>> supplements
> >>> to choose from. It's still spendy, even at their prices, but seems to
> >>> be
> >>> worth it.
> >>>
> >>> hth,
> >>>
> >>> Tami
> >>>
> >>> On 03/30/2016 05:33 AM, Deanna Lewis via NAGDU wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>> I am looking for a good joint supplement for my retired guide, Pascal.
> >>>> Lately, he doesn't seem as interested in going on car rides with my
> >>>> mom
> >>>> and stepdad. So, I am thinking that it could be due to arthritis and
> >>>> it
> >>>> hurts him to jump into the vehicle. If I go with a
> >>>> glucosamine/chondroitin pill, would I need to get one specifically
> >>>> formulated for dogs? Can you all recommend any particular brands or
> >>>> the
> >>>> best place to purchase joint supplements?
> >>>> Thanks for your help.
> >>>> Deanna, Mambo, and retired Pascal
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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