[NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

Thu Apr 21 16:16:57 UTC 2016

And I remember my apartment complex in Maryland and the manager asking me
about it when it turned out that it wasn't my dog, they even showed me the
spot and I said I never took my dog there, but because some guys on the
first floor with a window out there had seen me earlier in the general area
and then they found dog defecation they just had to assume it's me...Oh
well, keeps everyone busy--smile.
Now I didn't say busy busy, or get busy".
I should watch my syntax, I said "they assumed it was me" whereas really I
meant they assumed it was my dog--lol  I have not, even in the most drunken
state under the influence of MD2020 (anyone remember that stuff?)  ...have
not ever goene to the bathroom on a lawnin front of a ground fllor
apartment--smile

Dan

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

As far as picking up, I do whether I'm expected to or not.  I use the same
spot most of the time, so picking up is just common sense.

Sadly, some complexes have a nasty habit of blaming the blind person when
the reality is, they have no clue who's dog is doing the crapping.

I get that we miss an occasional piece, but I've been in situations where
the complex management automatically assumed it was the blind folks with the
dogs rather than the countless other fully sighted residents who never
lifted a finger to remove droppings.  This was a main stream complex that
just happened to have a few blind folks with guide dogs.  There were also
tons of yappy, puntable objects making messes.  If the management had just
bothered to examine the evidence, they'd see that no way could dogs weighing
in excess of 60 pounds make these teeny tiny messes, but you know, we're
blind, so we couldn't possibly get how unsightly a pile of busy number 2 is.

<sigh>  I'm not a huge Big brother person, but having DNA would at least
prove, maybe with 99% accuracy, that my dog didn't leave the droppings and
the real offenders would be penalized.

I'm just waiting for the Morey Povich show spin off where they read out dog
doo DNA results.  It would be way more interesting than the paternity stuff
he's been doing for the last few years.  LOL

,
Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
different one each day.
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From: "Deanna Lewis via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

> Wow, now I've heard it all! LOL
> Sounds like the complex wants to test all the dogs fecal matter so 
> that if they find a pile on the property, they can analyze it and know 
> who's dog left it?
> I think that's a bit over the top, and I probably would fight it if I 
> lived at that complex.
> Deanna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne 
> Denning via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:28 AM
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> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>
> I wonder if it is to test for worms.  I could see that if there are a 
> lot of dogs in the complex.
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> That seems like a weird requirement. Do they pay for the test? I feel 
>> that the dog is a dog, and if there is some explanation for it that 
>> makes sense, it should be an be done. Not sure if they can enforce it.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jessica N.
>> Naert
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:09 AM
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>> Cc: Jessica N. Naert <jessica.n.naert at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>>
>> Hello there!
>>
>> I am involved in a guide dog handlers group and someone asked if an 
>> apartment complex can require their guide dog to submit to a fecal 
>> DNA test if they are requesting all animals in the complex to do so 
>> upon move in.
>> The
>> conversation developed and one participant stated that guide dog 
>> handlers weren't required to pick up poop. I emailed NAGDU and got 
>> the response that some communities have ordinances that don't require 
>> guide dog handlers to pick up the poop but since we as blind 
>> individuals are trying to get our society to treat us as equal and 
>> full participants, we should pick up our dogs poop. I totally agree. 
>> What do you all think about the Fecal DNA test?
>> I left a voicemail for the hotline but just was curious what you all 
>> thought.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jessica N. Naert
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