[NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

Thu Apr 21 16:26:26 UTC 2016

Well yeah, and it's fine to have a sense of humor about this stuff.  But if 
you're constantly being on the receiving end it seems more like harassment 
then joking.  And maybe this is just me, but I don't like being accused of 
something I'm not doing.

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com

Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a 
different one each day.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Weiner via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Cc: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

> And I remember my apartment complex in Maryland and the manager asking me
> about it when it turned out that it wasn't my dog, they even showed me the
> spot and I said I never took my dog there, but because some guys on the
> first floor with a window out there had seen me earlier in the general 
> area
> and then they found dog defecation they just had to assume it's me...Oh
> well, keeps everyone busy--smile.
> Now I didn't say busy busy, or get busy".
> I should watch my syntax, I said "they assumed it was me" whereas really I
> meant they assumed it was my dog--lol  I have not, even in the most 
> drunken
> state under the influence of MD2020 (anyone remember that stuff?)  ...have
> not ever goene to the bathroom on a lawnin front of a ground fllor
> apartment--smile
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Belville 
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:12 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Lisa Belville
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>
> As far as picking up, I do whether I'm expected to or not.  I use the same
> spot most of the time, so picking up is just common sense.
>
> Sadly, some complexes have a nasty habit of blaming the blind person when
> the reality is, they have no clue who's dog is doing the crapping.
>
> I get that we miss an occasional piece, but I've been in situations where
> the complex management automatically assumed it was the blind folks with 
> the
> dogs rather than the countless other fully sighted residents who never
> lifted a finger to remove droppings.  This was a main stream complex that
> just happened to have a few blind folks with guide dogs.  There were also
> tons of yappy, puntable objects making messes.  If the management had just
> bothered to examine the evidence, they'd see that no way could dogs 
> weighing
> in excess of 60 pounds make these teeny tiny messes, but you know, we're
> blind, so we couldn't possibly get how unsightly a pile of busy number 2 
> is.
>
> <sigh>  I'm not a huge Big brother person, but having DNA would at least
> prove, maybe with 99% accuracy, that my dog didn't leave the droppings and
> the real offenders would be penalized.
>
> I'm just waiting for the Morey Povich show spin off where they read out 
> dog
> doo DNA results.  It would be way more interesting than the paternity 
> stuff
> he's been doing for the last few years.  LOL
>
>
>
> ,
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
>
> Never make the same mistake twice. There are so many new ones, try a
> different one each day.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deanna Lewis via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Cc: "Deanna Lewis" <DLewis at clovernook.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>
>
>> Wow, now I've heard it all! LOL
>> Sounds like the complex wants to test all the dogs fecal matter so
>> that if they find a pile on the property, they can analyze it and know
>> who's dog left it?
>> I think that's a bit over the top, and I probably would fight it if I
>> lived at that complex.
>> Deanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
>> Denning via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:28 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Marianne Denning
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>>
>> I wonder if it is to test for worms.  I could see that if there are a
>> lot of dogs in the complex.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That seems like a weird requirement. Do they pay for the test? I feel
>>> that the dog is a dog, and if there is some explanation for it that
>>> makes sense, it should be an be done. Not sure if they can enforce it.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jessica N.
>>> Naert
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:09 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Jessica N. Naert <jessica.n.naert at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>>>
>>> Hello there!
>>>
>>> I am involved in a guide dog handlers group and someone asked if an
>>> apartment complex can require their guide dog to submit to a fecal
>>> DNA test if they are requesting all animals in the complex to do so
>>> upon move in.
>>> The
>>> conversation developed and one participant stated that guide dog
>>> handlers weren't required to pick up poop. I emailed NAGDU and got
>>> the response that some communities have ordinances that don't require
>>> guide dog handlers to pick up the poop but since we as blind
>>> individuals are trying to get our society to treat us as equal and
>>> full participants, we should pick up our dogs poop. I totally agree.
>>> What do you all think about the Fecal DNA test?
>>> I left a voicemail for the hotline but just was curious what you all
>>> thought.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Jessica N. Naert
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