[NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

Thu Apr 21 16:23:17 UTC 2016

Dan, I am just curiouis. Why do you believe that blind people should be
exempt from picking up after our dogs. We expect to be admitted to places
where most dogs can't go, we expect to live where dogs aren't allowed, and
on and on. Should we really be exempt from picking up? Why do you have this
belief. You have a right to it, by the way, but you say you pick up, yet you
don't think a person who is blind should be required to. If someone has
issues that won't allow it, yeah, but that's not about blindness.
Cindy Lou Ray

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

I didn't know that about Israel...god help you if you're blind and you miss
a piece then, and meanwhile there are other countries where no one cleans up
after their dogs, go figure. I personally think blind people should be
exempt, but I'm sure I'm the minority on this list based on what I'm
reading, and I do clean up, but it's just my personal opinion, sue me if you
don't like it--smile.

Dan the grouchy but lovable

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop

Israel does this because the problem is so great with people not picking up
after there dogs that they have required all dog owners to have their dogs
DNA on file so that when a "pile" left by a dog and its owner can properly
be identified unless it is from a stray dog.  However, I have no statistics
on the rates of compliance on dog owners either service dog or pet owners.

FYI:  Israel has many blind programs due to many solders and civilians
blinded in wars/terrorist attacks.

Janice

On 4/21/2016 11:46 AM, Deanna Lewis via NAGDU wrote:
> Wow, now I've heard it all! LOL
> Sounds like the complex wants to test all the dogs fecal matter so 
> that if
they find a pile on the property, they can analyze it and know who's dog
left it?
> I think that's a bit over the top, and I probably would fight it if I
lived at that complex.
> Deanna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne 
> Denning via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:28 AM
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> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>
> I wonder if it is to test for worms.  I could see that if there are a 
> lot
of dogs in the complex.
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> That seems like a weird requirement. Do they pay for the test? I feel 
>> that the dog is a dog, and if there is some explanation for it that 
>> makes sense, it should be an be done. Not sure if they can enforce it.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jessica N.
>> Naert
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>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:09 AM
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>> Cc: Jessica N. Naert <jessica.n.naert at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Apartment Complex- Picking up poop
>>
>> Hello there!
>>
>> I am involved in a guide dog handlers group and someone asked if an 
>> apartment complex can require their guide dog to submit to a fecal 
>> DNA test if they are requesting all animals in the complex to do so 
>> upon
move in.
>> The
>> conversation developed and one participant stated that guide dog 
>> handlers weren't required to pick up poop. I emailed NAGDU and got 
>> the response that some communities have ordinances that don't require 
>> guide dog handlers to pick up the poop but since we as blind 
>> individuals are trying to get our society to treat us as equal and 
>> full participants, we should pick up our dogs poop. I totally agree. 
>> What
do you all think about the Fecal DNA test?
>> I left a voicemail for the hotline but just was curious what you all 
>> thought.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Jessica N. Naert
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