[NAGDU] Taking really long walks

Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furness at gmail.com
Wed Apr 27 14:30:07 UTC 2016 

Yeah, true!

And, I have to admit, working my dogs from TSE was kinda like a good roller coaster ride!

Cait

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Well...to be fair, I expect if the Seeing Eye dogs were trained to stop for all the ankle-twisting cracks, you'd be stopped more than you'd be going. Those Morristown sidewalks are even worse than Erie ones. 
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>> On Apr 27, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Caitlyn Furness via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan,
>> I think you have something there.
>> 
>> When I got my first GDB dog back in the 80’s, he did slow down for changes in terrain-not every crack, but significant things.
>> 
>> After him I had four owner trained dogs, and I taught them to slow down or stop for terrain changes like paddle did.
>> 
>> My next dogs were from Seeing eye, and man, you better hang on, because they certainly did not stop for terrain changes!  they’d of course stop for curbs, stairs, etc-big things, but not the  ankle twisting cracks, tree roots, etc.
>> 
>> My current dog from Gallant Hearts slows down, like Paddle and my OT dogs, so life is a little more sane now!
>> 
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Dan Weiner via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's an interesting question, Tracey...I have noticed last few times
>>> around at guide dog school that the dogs were not careful about stopping for
>>> changes of surface or cracks at all, all right, every little crack, that's a
>>> judgment ccall maybe but changes in surface could be a problem or little
>>> steps or raised or falling areas.  I've worked wit my pups when I get home
>>> an dwe have a happy medium but I have wondered about that, I don't think my
>>> memory was failing me, I thin that 22 years ago when I got my first dog the
>>> dogs were made to be more careful.
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>> Dan the man with Parker the nut
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 8:24 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>> 
>>> I got scraped up, but nothing broken, and now he's more careful.
>>> My neighborhood has a lot of cracked sidewalks because we have a lot of
>>> large trees.  Trees are good; cracked sidewalks not so much.
>>> My dogs have all had to learn how to operate here.  If they stopped for
>>> every crack, we'd never get anywhere, but, if they don't stop for the worst
>>> ones, I trip.  I suppose I could learn to goose-step, picking my feet way
>>> up, but I would feel ridiculous.  So my guys learn what will trip me, and
>>> what probably won't.
>>> I was happy to find a whole section of sidewalk the town had repaired.  Wish
>>> they'd do more, but people around here are more interested in streets than
>>> sidewalks.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via
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>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 4:46 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
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>>> Original I am so sorry you fell.
>>> I hope you didn't brake anything.
>>> Maybe the next time you go to that area, your dog will slow down.
>>> Wishing you the best.
>>> message:
>>>> The fall is not OK, but there is no foolproof travel method. I missed 
>>>> a turn in a slanted and broken curb the other day and fell. I have 
>>>> fallen using my dog, too. It happens. What is not OK for me is if it 
>>>> happens because the dog is distracted by, say, other dogs.
>>>> Cindy Lou Ray
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer 
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 2:02 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>> 
>>>>                      The fall would not be ok with me. I know, easy 
>>>> for me to say since I don't have any emotions invested in the two of you.
>>>> Is his pace comfortable for you?
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:44 PM
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>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Taking really long walks
>>> 
>>>> The hiker says he works his dog 10-15 miles every day.  I was thinking 
>>>> about that.  His dog must have a good pace, or he's got a lot of free 
>>>> time.  Maybe he counts it as work time, keeping in shape for hiking.
>>> 
>>>> Krokus takes about 90 minutes to go 3 miles, though that includes many 
>>>> street crossings and a lot of cracked sidewalks.  Even so, he's a bit 
>>>> more of a stroller than I'd prefer.  On the other hand, I have tripped 
>>>> over a big crack and landed hard, which isn't any fun at all.
>>> 
>>>> I think Krokus is just a guy who needs some time to react.  He can 
>>>> dodge someone rushing out from a shop we're passing, but he'd prefer 
>>>> to have some time to plan his moves.  Or maybe I'm making excuses for 
>>>> his
>>> ambling self.
>>> 
>>>> Tracy
>>> 
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