[NAGDU] [nagdu] Preferential Treatment was: Blanket Prosciption Against Advance Notice

Daryl crazymusician at shaw.ca
Sat Dec 10 04:41:11 UTC 2016 

I absolutely agree with you that it is very important to be polite when declining offers of assistance. The only part where I disagree is if somebody is grabbing my body. I shouldn't have to be polite about that, simply because a person without a disability asking for directions would not be bottling manipulated. I usually play Italy ask the person to remove their hands once, and then I get loud. My voice can be a weapon, because it is loud and draws attention. And as for the special treatment, it's up to us to be polite and understand that companies want to make life easier for us and for themselves. As an example, I used to travel frequently with a bus company that always set aside an extra seat for my guide dog. I frequently told them that I didn't require the extra seat, and in fact I would prefer if they didn't leave that seat empty. After a couple of times going back and forth with this the compromise was that if possible we would sit in a single seat. So, it was up to me to
politely advocate for myself. I simply stated that I myself and my particular guide dog did not require another seat. Another guide dog team might require an extra seat, and that's okay. It's all up to us to be polite and courteous and thankful for offers of assistance even if we don't require it. We can politely decline offers of assistance and still maintain our dignity and autonomy.

On December 9, 2016 3:28:04 PM MST, "Melissa R. Green via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>I agree that many blind people are very upset about things like
>pre-boarding, handicapped %plates and plackards, paratransit, and or 
>cheapper fares.  Then they are rude about it.  The same goes for people
>that feel that they are owed special treatment because they are blind. 
>
>I was told that  as a blind person we shape peoples of blindness.  I
>have had lots of people tell me what some blind person treated them.  I
>had a cab driver that told me he said to a blind perso� that there was
>a paratransit systim in town.  The person said, "I don't do that." 
>Like it was something very bad.
>I am like othersen  I do use lots of things like pre-boarding. The
>bottom line is you can pick your battles, and you can be considerate. 
>We have the right to make a choice and not let others make us feel
>badly about it.  I will make arrangements other than waiting for a bus
>in extrime cold or heat.  I will not let others make me feel like I am
>not a "good blind person", because I am exercising my freedom of
>choice.  
>  
>    
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Star Gazer via NAGDU  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>To: his'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>Users'"        <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>Date: 12/08/2016 9:49 am
>Subject: Re: [NAGDU] [nagdu] Preferential Treatment was: Blanket
>Prosciption Against Advance Notice
>
>>
>>
>>				Some people just don't like being told no,
>> and not a lick of politeness will change that. 
>> Something about you as a person made that woman offer you assistance
>so take
>> heart. I think had it been me, I'd have said "I'm sorry you've had
>negative
>> experiences" and then I'd wonder why she was telling me. Makes me
>wonder if
>> you'd said "No thank you" if you'd also have been "rude".
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L
>Johnson via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 4:02 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: S L Johnson <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] [nagdu] Preferential Treatment was: Blanket
>Prosciption
>> Against Advance Notice
>> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> I am always very grateful when the airline moves me t a better seat. 
>That
>> is much better than my dog being squished in a tight place and the
>passenger
>> sitting next to me complaining about having to be near a dog.  I
>consider
>> that a reasonable accommodation.  I feel the same about preboarding. 
>If
>> they are willing to let me get myself and the dog settled before the
>other
>> passengers begin pushing and shoving then I am all for it.  I do not
>think
>> in any it is demeaning to us as blind people.  It is no different
>than them
>> allowing extra time for someone using a walker or wheelchair.  Let's
>get
>> real, it does take us a bit longer to get ourselves settled and
>avoiding the
>> crowd is much better, especially when people these days are so
>impatient and
>> likely to cause a fuss.  I think many blind people are much too
>sensitive to
>> what some of you consider preferential treatment.  If you were a
>senior
>> citizen who needed more time would you think it was wrong to let them
>have
>> it?  no, you probably wouldn't.  I think we have to quit being so
>judgmental
>> of others.  If you do not want what you consider as preferential
>treatment
>> then politely decline it but don't knock anyone else for taking it. 
>Show
>> appreciation for any airline or any other public transportation or
>> accommodation for being kind enough to offer you a better place for
>you and
>> your dog.  Changing the public attitude about blindness goes both
>ways.  We
>> cannot insist on respect if we become rude whenever anyone tries to
>be nice
>> to us.  One day many years ago I was in New York city.  I was at a
>very busy
>> intersection waiting for the traffic light to change.  I did not know
>that
>> signal was out of order until a person came up to me to offer
>assistance. 
>> That woman said she was very reluctant to offer assistance because
>many
>> times she had been yelled at by blind people when she offered to help
>them. 
>> She said she found blind people to be very rude and hostile. 
>Obviously this
>> is not the image we want to give the public.  Therefore, if you do
>not want
>> assistance or to take advantage of other accommodations you don't
>think you
>> deserve, then please decline with extreme politeness and
>consideration.
>> 
>> Sandra Johnson and Eva
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David via NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 3:24 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: David
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] [nagdu] Preferential Treatment was: Blanket
>Prosciption
>> Against Advance Notice
>> 
>> I think that comparison is a bit of stretch, Marion.
>> 
>> If the regular seats would fit ordinary humans, I might consider it
>> preferential treatment, but since they don't, I think it is a
>reasonable
>> accommodation.
>> 
>> I don't mind paying for adequate space, by the way, but I also don't
>mind
>> not being charged for it.
>> 
>> David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
>> 
>> On 12/2/2016 1:16 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU wrote:
>> > This is a little like what we hear so many times about God giving
>us a 
>> > keener sense of hearing or touch to compensate for our blindness.
>> 
>> 
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