[NAGDU] picking up after dog

Wed Jan 13 15:09:02 UTC 2016

I use a relieving harness which was given to me by my school. I got Zeb used to it in training as he moved  around and still does when he goes.  In my area where I live there's a pretty steep fine for not cleaning up that I really don't want to pay. It would help if these schools would realize who these wonderful dogs are going to and do some long-term planning and brainstorming about these types of things and that should include not just trainers but also the raisers and should be consistent across the board.`

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilniski at gmail.com

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>            I think there is a difference between not being able
> to do something and half-assing it. It sounds like Dan, that you half-ass
> picking up, at least that's how I read your message. Far better to decide
> you can't or just will not do it, and have someone else do a good job then
> to say "It's hard because I'm blind". 
> I don't really care how poop gets picked up, just that it gets done well. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog
> 
> Sandra, I don't exactly understand the hostility in your post. You maybe
> cannot pick up; most of us can; therefore, it is our responsibility to do
> so. Why? Because other people might walk in it if we don't. I think it is
> really uncalled for to say we are self-righteous, especially since the whole
> thread came up in the first place because someone was asking the question.
> It is hard to pick up in snow; it isn't close to impossible unless you
> really are physically incapable. I don't see the need for the hostility, not
> from you or from anyone else. State you have physical limitations and
> cannot; then leave it at that.
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog
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> Hi Dan,
> 
> Finally someone who agrees with me.  I know this post will make the rest of
> you self righteous folks very mad but, I think it has to be said.  We are
> blind and we can not do everything perfectly.  There is nothing wrong with
> admitting there are things we cannot do.  In some cities blind people are
> exempt from picking up and I think it should be that way everywhere.  It is
> not easy with some dogs who move around a lot or dogs who do not like being
> touched or approached as they are relieving themselves.  Picking up can
> cause a lot of stress for a handler for several reasons.  Where is the
> nearest trash can?  you can't just stroll down the street with a bag of dog
> waste in your hand.  If you are a woman all dressed up in a long fancy
> dress, do you really want to bend down and get all messed up?  As many of
> you have said, picking up in the snow is almost impossible.  Why can't we be
> like those other countries and just admit that as blind people there are
> entitled to some consideration and exemptions?  I will admit, I never pick
> up after my dogs.  In my own back yard, I let her out on her 30 foot tie-out
> and get sighted help to clean the yard twice a week.  She usually goes at
> home but, if she did go out in public, I would find some grass and let her
> go.  When at conventions, I find a quiet area of grass at the hotel and
> convention center where my dog can go and if somebody doesn't like it, then
> too bad.  I have physical limitations that make picking up impossible so,
> the rest of you will just have to live with it.  For some of us, it is
> impossible, especially if you have other medical issues.  I do not
> understand why many blind people refuse to admit that there are just some
> things that we can not do.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:46 PM
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> I clean up after my dog especially in public because it's required,. But I
> think we should be given an exemption on cleaning up as they do in some
> countries It is harder to clean up if we're blind, sorry,  JMO.  .
> You guys don't like  my opinion, , I don't care--lol One of the great things
> about the net is that we can all express our opinions if we do it
> respectfully.
> 
> Now, so in my home area my hound relieves in the back yard,  and therefore
> if I miss something it's no big deal.when we're out and about I clean up and
> I do use a short leash because otherwise Mr. parker has the singular habit
> of walking while he delivers his calling card--smile. If he's on a long
> leash it's very hard to figure out what he's doing, if he's on a long leash
> I hold it closer to the collar...if I touch his back he walks away so it's
> always an interesting experience--lol.
> And no, my potential critics, he was always this way even at school, not
> just since he came home and can run free in the fenced back yard at my
> disgression.
> 
> Warmest wishes to all,
> Dan the lovable but opinionated
> 
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> I always use a short leash.  And you'll remember how sort TSE leashes are.
> Tracy
> 
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> It is that long stretch from the top of the leash to the dog to walk up to
> her.
> I make the leash taught so I can feel when she stops to go.
> As I move my foot she starts to move as well like a dance loll.
> Now ahem would rather dance with my husband. smile.
> That is the part I wonder about.
> Even on short leash.
> 
> Original message:
>> As soon as I feel her back is arched, I put my hand on it and then I 
>> step behind him so that one foot is on either side of him. You want to 
>> have your hand starting at the head and then run it down his back.
>> Then you can follow where he goes; you go down to just above the tail 
>> and keep a light hand on him.
>> Cindy
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>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog
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>> How did you learn how to walk up to the dog. Even sliding feet.
>> Sure would save on bags when she uses lots of them during the day.
> 
>> Original message:
>>> Hi Dar.
>>> Ben used to move while relieving.  The solution was to hold the leash 
>>> pretty close to his collar, so, even if he moved, he couldn't move 
>>> far.  Pretty soon, he stopped moving.
>>> Good luck.  Picking up in snow is a pain.
>>> Tracy
> 
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>>> Folks when you are brainless as I are smile, I forget to take off the 
>>> toileting harness.
>>> The other dogs this didn't matter, to her it does.
>>> She chewed up this one so bad I finally threw it away.
>>> When I try to follow leash down telling her to stay, she will move.
>>> If you have tricks of the trade or trade the trick that woud be kind.
>>> In the winter with snow I will keep her using the harness.
>>> Safer for me.
>>> She not only goes inside the bag but on the outside as well.
>>> Ugg not nice at all.
>>> Just wanted to know how you do it.
>>> Thanks,
> 
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