[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 135, Issue 1

Mon Jun 6 17:35:42 UTC 2016

My first reply on the post/forum...  I hope that I am doing it correctly

I stand out and I am pretty over it.  I will be heading to GDB at the end
of Sept for training and can relate to so many of the concerns on the
forum.  I am 6'3" 260 and in really good shape.  One of my issues is that
if I don't wear my dark glasses many people do not see me as blind even
though my cane is over five foot long and bright white.  They simply refer
to it as my "stick" or "walking stick".  I just returned from a trip to
Chicago for fun and I experienced everything from a woman telling me that I
didn't belong there (walking down the sidewalk) to "cane jumpers" to a
woman in security telling me that I looked silly with my dark glasses and
cane waiting while my palms were being swiped.  After an inconsiderate or
insensitive encounter I am often told "well you don't look blind" as their
justification.  I usually just smile and move on.  Once in a while I can't
help but respond "hmmm, I thought the dark glasses and long white cane
might have been a clue".  My point is that I will always stick out and it
doesn't matter whether I am working with a cane, or a canine guide (I
guess) or I'm just me.  I try to take on the attitude that I am an
ambassador, I have no anonymity, and there will always have someone
watching or staring at me.  This is just the way that it is and its not
going to change.  Its OK and I try to use it to motivate me to have a
little more patience, be a little kinder and try to avoid being a jerk when
I experience a seemingly unjust moment, and there will be many.  I too have
many questions and concerns about moving from my cane to canine guide
parter.  I remind myself that when I signed the GDB contract I made a deal
with myself to simply trust GDB and grab on to their hope strength and
experience to pass this milestone in my journey like so many others.  Best
of luck!

Henry

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>    1. Re: Do we stand out? (Tracy Carcione)
>    2. the messages we send as working teams (Emily K. Michael)
>    3. Re: Do we stand out? (Cindy Ray)
>    4. Re: Coconut Oil for Labs (Raven Tolliver)
>    5. ACV for Dogs (Dani Pagador)
>    6. Re: Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog (Wayne & Harley)
>    7. Re: Do we stand out? (Tracy Carcione)
>    8. Re: Do we stand out? (Cindy Ray)
>    9. Home alone (Tracy Carcione)
>   10. Re: Home alone (Cindy Ray)
>   11. Re: Home alone (Jessica Dail)
>   12. Re: Home alone (Cindy Ray)
>   13. Re: Home alone (Hannah Chadwick)
>   14. Re: Home alone (Daryl Lang)
>   15. Re: Home alone (Tracy Carcione)
>   16. Re: Home alone (Tracy Carcione)
>   17. Re: Home alone (Cindy Ray)
>   18. Re: Home alone (Tami Jarvis)
>   19. Re: Home alone (S L Johnson)
>   20. ergo  handle (Sean Moore)
>   21. Re: NAGDU Digest, Vol 134, Issue 26 (Mardi Hadfield)
>   22. Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo (Tracy Carcione)
>   23. Re: Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo (Raul A. Gallegos)
>   24. Re: Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo (Nancy VanderBrink)
>   25. Re: Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo (Tracy Carcione)
>   26. Re: Home alone (d m gina)
>   27. Hound on the Hound (Rox'E Homstad)
>   28. Re: Hound on the Hound (Cindy Ray)
>   29. Re: Hound on the Hound (Rox'E Homstad)
>   30. Re: Hound on the Hound (Cindy Ray)
>   31. Re: Hound on the Hound (Becky Frankeberger)
>   32. My New Guide Dog! (Rachel Grider)
>   33. Re: My New Guide Dog! (Cindy Ray)
>   34. Re: My New Guide Dog! (Chantel Cuddemi)
>   35. Re: My New Guide Dog! (M?ria Orov??kov?)
>   36. Re: My New Guide Dog! (Cindy Ray)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 10:05:50 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
> Message-ID: <009601d1b9b3$34b05170$9e10f450$@access.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> I remember in college someone I was with said people were staring at me in
> the cafeteria.  I remember it because it was a surprise to me, but made me
> realize that people are probably staring at me pretty often.  I don't care;
> that's their problem. I have places to go and things to do.
> It does annoy me when I stand out because the dog is creeping up to things.
> Krokus is not always keen to go into our office building--so boring.  So I
> have to encourage him to walk up to the door, and praise him up when he
> does.  Then some fool thinks I'm having trouble with the door, because I
> haven't bounded up to it and whipped it open.  That kind of thing annoys
> me.
> But it won't stop me working with the big goof to go up to the door.
>
> People don't often stop me to talk about the dog, or interrupt me while I'm
> eating out.  I think it's partly because I tuck the dog under the table as
> much as I can, so he's not very obvious, and partly just that the attitude
> in the New York City area is to mind your own business. It makes it harder
> to get to know the neighbors, but easier to walk down the street.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Hello:
>
> I really don't care if I stand out.  I am blind.  I choose to use a guide
> dog.  Yes, that makes me different than most of the population but, so
> what?
>
> It is no big deal.  I am doing what I have to do and don't care what anyone
> else thinks.  I don't mind people stopping me to ask about my dog.  I am
> thrilled with her and don't mind sharing her with others.  You will stand
> out whether you use a dog or a cane.  Actually you stand out more with a
> long white cane.  Walking with a dog is so free and easy that you are no
> different than the folks out walking with their pet dogs.  Life is much too
> short and with lots of other stuff to worry about so, stop worrying about
> standing out.  You are blind so, you will always be noticed.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:35 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Well honestly, we'll stand out whether we use a cane or a dog because the
> minority of people are blind and the majority sighted. The majority neither
> need a cane for mobility nor a dog, I've stopped worrying about it, I mean,
> granted I worry about other things, but not that any more.
>
> Yours most sincerely,
> Dan the man
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I have had to go back three times, but I had never really bonded with the
> dog.  I was sad about it, sure, but I wanted a dog that would work for me.
> It is painful, but my problem was more a sense of failure, and they worked
> with me on that. I think you are going Monday and are anxious; also, I
> think
> you are over thinking it. I am going to truthfully say that some of the
> cons
> I had in mind never really went away for me. For instance, I got sick of
> people interrupting conversations I was having with people to ask me
> questions about my dog even though I might be having a serious
> conversation.
> And people talking to me instead of my dog was a problem. Some of the
> things
> I dealt with better as time went on, but I grew weary. For some people
> these
> aren't issues, so don't please think that I think you are making a mistake.
> I would also say that now that I'm not using a dog, I miss to some extent
> the easier movement with the dog, though right now I'm not sure it would be
> available because I'm having trouble walking. Strangely though, when I went
> to get a dog, well when I was deciding, I said I didn't want to stand out,
> look different. Chuck suggested that I already did because I am using a
> cane. True enough. And now I feel like I am standing out because it is hard
> for me to walk and I am sticking my cane out so far to make sure I don't
> have any serious mishaps, so much of it turns out to be trade offs. I think
> you will be thrilled with your dog. Don't over think it; relax; have a
> grand
> time at the school; keep us posted when you can on the dog. Next week at
> this time you will have had your furry companion two days, almost three.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 1:09 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I think I will definitely have a hard time with giving up my cane. I love
> to
> be able to learn about my environment with my cane, and I am used to being
> in total control. With a dog, I will have to give up some of that control,
> but I will hopefully be trading control for better speed and grace when
> walking through hazardous environments.
>
> Last week, I began wondering if I really should get a guide dog because I
> thought that maybe the worries I had and the possible issues I could
> foresee
> were just too much, and maybe a guide dog just wasn't the best thing for me
> at this time in my life. I made a numbered list of all the personal
> benefits
> of getting a guide dog (which I am still adding to as I think of more, by
> the way) and another list of all the possible problems and inconveniences
> that a guide dog would create. I was greatly encouraged because the pros
> greatly outnumbered the cons, and I have even taken some of the cons off
> the
> list altogether as I think of ways to get around them.
>
> I still have a ton of questions, but I think that as long as I have a guide
> dog that fits my personality and lifestyle, everything will work out. My
> biggest worry at this point is that somehow the dog they choose for me will
> end up being the wrong choice, and I will have to send it back for a new
> one
> after having already bonded with it. Does that ever happen, or am I being
> paranoid?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rachel
>
> On 5/27/16, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I think the hardest thing for me with the first dog was giving over
> > some of the responsibility that I used to take using a cane to the
> > dog. I wanted to know all of the things about my environment that I
> > used to know with the cane because I trusted me more than the dog. Now
> > I sort of wonder why I felt that way, having retired the dog and gone
> > back to using a cane.
> > Lots of wonderful times and happy trails, Rachel.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel
> > Grider via NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:28 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >
> > Thank you all for your advice! This makes me feel better. I am leaving
> > for NJ on Monday and should meet my new guide dog on Wednesday.
> > Getting excited!
> >
> > On 5/24/16, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> I like the compromises others have suggested. In
> > public, I'd bring
> >> the dog, your friend doesn't get to decide that. At home, in her
> >> home, then she does as do you.
> >> Really, you need to realize that relationships always change, people
> >> get married, have children, move away, find hobbies. Only you can
> >> know if you want t his change to happen. If no, then don't get a dog.
> >> If yes, then get one.
> >> I no longer have a dog. When I did, a good friend and I weren't very
> > close.
> >> When I stopped using a dog, we became close. He just doesn't like
> >> dogs and that's fine. It put a crimp in our friendship while I was
> >> using one but he was never a butt head about it... he just didn't
> >> want to hang out when my dog was present, and I didn't want to leave
> >> the dog just
> > for him.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara
> >> Wiseman via NAGDU
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:40 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >>
> >> Hi, first of all I want to say congratulations! I have loved having a
> >> dog from the Seeing Eye! My brother has allergies to dogs and is also
> >> not a dog fan. Here is the compromise that we have come up with. If
> >> he is hosting a family dinner, and I have family taking me to and
> >> from, I leave any at home.
> >> If we were meeting at his house to then go somewhere where I would
> >> need to use Emmy, or if I were coming to his house on my own, I would
> >> be OK to bring Amy. I didn't make it totally clear at the beginning,
> >> but Amy is the name of my dog. Congratulations to you and keep us
> >> posted!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello, Friends!
> >>>
> >>> I don't usually post to this list because, having never used a guide
> >>> dog,
> >> I have nothing productive to contribute. This is shortly going to
> >> change, though, as I will be going to the Seeing Eye to train with a
> >> new guide dog in two weeks! I am very excited, though this decision
> >> has been a very long time coming. I am still unsure about some
> >> things, but I know that I will need to try it out in order to know
> >> for sure if a guide dog will be the best mobility aid for me.
> >>>
> >>> I have a few questions for y'all about adjusting to a new guide dog.
> >>> I
> >> will probably think of many more as I proceed, but here are a few
> >> with which to start:
> >>>
> >>> 1. I teach private voice lessons. I have already notified my
> >>> students that
> >> I will be away for most of June, but I have not yet told them why. I
> >> know that it would probably be common courtesy to let them know that
> >> I am getting a guide dog before they show up to my studio and see my
> >> dog there. I am nervout about telling them because I don't know what
> >> kind of reaction I will get. What have some of you done in similar
> >> situations, and how have your students/clients/associates reacted?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I happen to own a cat who is not only quite territorial but also
> >> extremely emotionally attached to me; I mean, when I am home, this
> >> cat literally follows me around and is always trying to get me to
> >> either play or cuddle with her. The man who did my home interview
> >> didn't seem too concerned about her adjusting to a dog, but because
> >> the emotional well-being of my cat is extremely important to me, I
> >> cannot help being worried. I know this sounds really stupid, but I am
> >> afraid that because my dog will go with me whenever I leave my house,
> >> and then return home with me, my cat will begin to associate me with
> >> the dog and instead of growing used to my dog over time, she will
> >> resent me and not want to be around me as much. Am I reading too much
> into this?
> >> Regardless, what are some ways in which you have made the transition
> >> easier for your pets?
> >>>
> >>> 3. I have two good friends who are allergic to dog hair. Both of
> >>> them are
> >> not worried about being around me with the dog, as long as I keep it
> >> brushed, but I am concerned that despite their reassurances, my
> >> relationships with them will suffer. One of these friends told me
> >> that service dogs have been brought to her house before, and as long
> >> as the dog stayed in the back yard, everything was fine. Is that
> >> appropriate to do with a guide dog? How have some of you dealt with
> this?
> >>>
> >>> That will be it for now. Any advice would be appreciated. I am
> >>> counting
> >> down the days until I will get to meet my new guide, but I still want
> >> to make sure that all proactical considerations are made.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>> Rachel
> >>>
> >>> http//www.rachelgrider.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:55:35 -0400
> From: "Emily K. Michael" <emily.k.michael at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] the messages we send as working teams
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> Good afternoon, guide dog users!
>
> In recent conversations, we?ve talked about the complications of standing
> out, of being so obvious to nondisabled people, so I?m sharing this essay
> in the spirit of what our working relationships communicate.
>
> This is a piece I wrote called ?Working Resonance: Concerto for Guide Dog,
> Handler, and World,? and it was published by The Hopper, a literary journal
> with an ecological focus.
>
> Here?s the link: http://www.hoppermag.org/working-resonance
>
> I hope you enjoy it, and if you?re a nature-lover, please consider joining
> my Facebook group ?Ecology & Disability: Extending Access to the
> More-Than-Human World?: www.facebook.com/groups/1756874304534844/
>
> Warmly,
> Emily, with York
> ---
> Emily K. Michael
> emily.k.michael at gmail.com
> Blog: http://areyouseeingthis.wordpress.com/
> Facebook: www.facebook.com/authoremilykmichael/
> Twitter: @ModwynEarendel
>
> ?Science, technology, and the economic uses of nature need not be
> antithetical to celebration.?
>  ?Gary Snyder, The Practice of the Wild
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:44:21 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
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> Well, that is fair. In Des Moines not nearly as many people use dogs, and
> Midwestern folks can be nosy. But it isn't about whether or not I tuck the
> dog under the table. But for a long time here, and even now, dogs weren't
> used much.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:06 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> I remember in college someone I was with said people were staring at me in
> the cafeteria.  I remember it because it was a surprise to me, but made me
> realize that people are probably staring at me pretty often.  I don't care;
> that's their problem. I have places to go and things to do.
> It does annoy me when I stand out because the dog is creeping up to things.
> Krokus is not always keen to go into our office building--so boring.  So I
> have to encourage him to walk up to the door, and praise him up when he
> does.  Then some fool thinks I'm having trouble with the door, because I
> haven't bounded up to it and whipped it open.  That kind of thing annoys
> me.
> But it won't stop me working with the big goof to go up to the door.
>
> People don't often stop me to talk about the dog, or interrupt me while I'm
> eating out.  I think it's partly because I tuck the dog under the table as
> much as I can, so he's not very obvious, and partly just that the attitude
> in the New York City area is to mind your own business. It makes it harder
> to get to know the neighbors, but easier to walk down the street.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Hello:
>
> I really don't care if I stand out.  I am blind.  I choose to use a guide
> dog.  Yes, that makes me different than most of the population but, so
> what?
>
> It is no big deal.  I am doing what I have to do and don't care what anyone
> else thinks.  I don't mind people stopping me to ask about my dog.  I am
> thrilled with her and don't mind sharing her with others.  You will stand
> out whether you use a dog or a cane.  Actually you stand out more with a
> long white cane.  Walking with a dog is so free and easy that you are no
> different than the folks out walking with their pet dogs.  Life is much too
> short and with lots of other stuff to worry about so, stop worrying about
> standing out.  You are blind so, you will always be noticed.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:35 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Well honestly, we'll stand out whether we use a cane or a dog because the
> minority of people are blind and the majority sighted. The majority neither
> need a cane for mobility nor a dog, I've stopped worrying about it, I mean,
> granted I worry about other things, but not that any more.
>
> Yours most sincerely,
> Dan the man
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I have had to go back three times, but I had never really bonded with the
> dog.  I was sad about it, sure, but I wanted a dog that would work for me.
> It is painful, but my problem was more a sense of failure, and they worked
> with me on that. I think you are going Monday and are anxious; also, I
> think
> you are over thinking it. I am going to truthfully say that some of the
> cons
> I had in mind never really went away for me. For instance, I got sick of
> people interrupting conversations I was having with people to ask me
> questions about my dog even though I might be having a serious
> conversation.
> And people talking to me instead of my dog was a problem. Some of the
> things
> I dealt with better as time went on, but I grew weary. For some people
> these
> aren't issues, so don't please think that I think you are making a mistake.
> I would also say that now that I'm not using a dog, I miss to some extent
> the easier movement with the dog, though right now I'm not sure it would be
> available because I'm having trouble walking. Strangely though, when I went
> to get a dog, well when I was deciding, I said I didn't want to stand out,
> look different. Chuck suggested that I already did because I am using a
> cane. True enough. And now I feel like I am standing out because it is hard
> for me to walk and I am sticking my cane out so far to make sure I don't
> have any serious mishaps, so much of it turns out to be trade offs. I think
> you will be thrilled with your dog. Don't over think it; relax; have a
> grand
> time at the school; keep us posted when you can on the dog. Next week at
> this time you will have had your furry companion two days, almost three.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 1:09 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I think I will definitely have a hard time with giving up my cane. I love
> to
> be able to learn about my environment with my cane, and I am used to being
> in total control. With a dog, I will have to give up some of that control,
> but I will hopefully be trading control for better speed and grace when
> walking through hazardous environments.
>
> Last week, I began wondering if I really should get a guide dog because I
> thought that maybe the worries I had and the possible issues I could
> foresee
> were just too much, and maybe a guide dog just wasn't the best thing for me
> at this time in my life. I made a numbered list of all the personal
> benefits
> of getting a guide dog (which I am still adding to as I think of more, by
> the way) and another list of all the possible problems and inconveniences
> that a guide dog would create. I was greatly encouraged because the pros
> greatly outnumbered the cons, and I have even taken some of the cons off
> the
> list altogether as I think of ways to get around them.
>
> I still have a ton of questions, but I think that as long as I have a guide
> dog that fits my personality and lifestyle, everything will work out. My
> biggest worry at this point is that somehow the dog they choose for me will
> end up being the wrong choice, and I will have to send it back for a new
> one
> after having already bonded with it. Does that ever happen, or am I being
> paranoid?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rachel
>
> On 5/27/16, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I think the hardest thing for me with the first dog was giving over
> > some of the responsibility that I used to take using a cane to the
> > dog. I wanted to know all of the things about my environment that I
> > used to know with the cane because I trusted me more than the dog. Now
> > I sort of wonder why I felt that way, having retired the dog and gone
> > back to using a cane.
> > Lots of wonderful times and happy trails, Rachel.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel
> > Grider via NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:28 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >
> > Thank you all for your advice! This makes me feel better. I am leaving
> > for NJ on Monday and should meet my new guide dog on Wednesday.
> > Getting excited!
> >
> > On 5/24/16, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> I like the compromises others have suggested. In
> > public, I'd bring
> >> the dog, your friend doesn't get to decide that. At home, in her
> >> home, then she does as do you.
> >> Really, you need to realize that relationships always change, people
> >> get married, have children, move away, find hobbies. Only you can
> >> know if you want t his change to happen. If no, then don't get a dog.
> >> If yes, then get one.
> >> I no longer have a dog. When I did, a good friend and I weren't very
> > close.
> >> When I stopped using a dog, we became close. He just doesn't like
> >> dogs and that's fine. It put a crimp in our friendship while I was
> >> using one but he was never a butt head about it... he just didn't
> >> want to hang out when my dog was present, and I didn't want to leave
> >> the dog just
> > for him.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara
> >> Wiseman via NAGDU
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:40 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >>
> >> Hi, first of all I want to say congratulations! I have loved having a
> >> dog from the Seeing Eye! My brother has allergies to dogs and is also
> >> not a dog fan. Here is the compromise that we have come up with. If
> >> he is hosting a family dinner, and I have family taking me to and
> >> from, I leave any at home.
> >> If we were meeting at his house to then go somewhere where I would
> >> need to use Emmy, or if I were coming to his house on my own, I would
> >> be OK to bring Amy. I didn't make it totally clear at the beginning,
> >> but Amy is the name of my dog. Congratulations to you and keep us
> >> posted!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello, Friends!
> >>>
> >>> I don't usually post to this list because, having never used a guide
> >>> dog,
> >> I have nothing productive to contribute. This is shortly going to
> >> change, though, as I will be going to the Seeing Eye to train with a
> >> new guide dog in two weeks! I am very excited, though this decision
> >> has been a very long time coming. I am still unsure about some
> >> things, but I know that I will need to try it out in order to know
> >> for sure if a guide dog will be the best mobility aid for me.
> >>>
> >>> I have a few questions for y'all about adjusting to a new guide dog.
> >>> I
> >> will probably think of many more as I proceed, but here are a few
> >> with which to start:
> >>>
> >>> 1. I teach private voice lessons. I have already notified my
> >>> students that
> >> I will be away for most of June, but I have not yet told them why. I
> >> know that it would probably be common courtesy to let them know that
> >> I am getting a guide dog before they show up to my studio and see my
> >> dog there. I am nervout about telling them because I don't know what
> >> kind of reaction I will get. What have some of you done in similar
> >> situations, and how have your students/clients/associates reacted?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I happen to own a cat who is not only quite territorial but also
> >> extremely emotionally attached to me; I mean, when I am home, this
> >> cat literally follows me around and is always trying to get me to
> >> either play or cuddle with her. The man who did my home interview
> >> didn't seem too concerned about her adjusting to a dog, but because
> >> the emotional well-being of my cat is extremely important to me, I
> >> cannot help being worried. I know this sounds really stupid, but I am
> >> afraid that because my dog will go with me whenever I leave my house,
> >> and then return home with me, my cat will begin to associate me with
> >> the dog and instead of growing used to my dog over time, she will
> >> resent me and not want to be around me as much. Am I reading too much
> into this?
> >> Regardless, what are some ways in which you have made the transition
> >> easier for your pets?
> >>>
> >>> 3. I have two good friends who are allergic to dog hair. Both of
> >>> them are
> >> not worried about being around me with the dog, as long as I keep it
> >> brushed, but I am concerned that despite their reassurances, my
> >> relationships with them will suffer. One of these friends told me
> >> that service dogs have been brought to her house before, and as long
> >> as the dog stayed in the back yard, everything was fine. Is that
> >> appropriate to do with a guide dog? How have some of you dealt with
> this?
> >>>
> >>> That will be it for now. Any advice would be appreciated. I am
> >>> counting
> >> down the days until I will get to meet my new guide, but I still want
> >> to make sure that all proactical considerations are made.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>> Rachel
> >>>
> >>> http//www.rachelgrider.com
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 15:01:23 -0400
> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Coconut Oil for Labs
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> It's important to figure out why your dog is scratching because
> coconut oil will not help with all skin issues.
>
> If your dog is suffering from allergies, fish oil will be your best
> bet. Go with a human-grade fish oil without vitamin E.
>
> If your dog has a fungal bloom, also called yeast overgrowth on the
> skin, then coconut oil applied topically to troublesome spots will
> help drastically.
> Not sure if coconut oil in the food helps at all, but applied
> topically, it certainly has beneficial properties.
>
>
> If you're thinking of switching to a more nontoxic pest preventative,
> biospotix is a once monthly spot-on and is not harmful. There is also
> a Biospotix spray, though I dunno if it's for the house, animal, or if
> there's different sprays for both.I personally use bug-off garlic from
> springtimeinc.com, but I know everyone's not onboard with giving their
> dogs garlic.
> --
> Raven
> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
> www.1am-editing.com
>
> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
> have or what you do.
>
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> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 13:35:05 -1000
> From: Dani Pagador <axs.brl at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] ACV for Dogs
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> Hi, Everyone.
> Is anyone giving ACV to their dog internaly e.g., adding it to food
> and/or drinking water? If so, how much, and how often?
>
> Thanks,
> Dani
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:14:32 -0500
> From: Wayne & Harley <k9dad at k9di.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
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>
> *Hello Rachel,
> You may not have to completely give up your cane.
> You are attending Leader Dog, right? Unless policy has changed since I
> was last there the instructors suggested carrying a folding cane to
> supplement your dog to help you explore an obstacle while working your
> dog, or as a back up in case of harness failure, or the pup suddenly
> taking ill while out on route.
>
> HTH
>
> Wayne And Harley
>
> *On 5/27/2016 1:08 PM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU wrote:
> > I think I will definitely have a hard time with giving up my cane. I
> > love to be able to learn about my environment with my cane, and I am
> > used to being in total control. With a dog, I will have to give up
> > some of that control, but I will hopefully be trading control for
> > better speed and grace when walking through hazardous environments.
> >
> > Last week, I began wondering if I really should get a guide dog
> > because I thought that maybe the worries I had and the possible issues
> > I could foresee were just too much, and maybe a guide dog just wasn't
> > the best thing for me at this time in my life. I made a numbered list
> > of all the personal benefits of getting a guide dog (which I am still
> > adding to as I think of more, by the way) and another list of all the
> > possible problems and inconveniences that a guide dog would create. I
> > was greatly encouraged because the pros greatly outnumbered the cons,
> > and I have even taken some of the cons off the list altogether as I
> > think of ways to get around them.
> >
> > I still have a ton of questions, but I think that as long as I have a
> > guide dog that fits my personality and lifestyle, everything will work
> > out. My biggest worry at this point is that somehow the dog they
> > choose for me will end up being the wrong choice, and I will have to
> > send it back for a new one after having already bonded with it. Does
> > that ever happen, or am I being paranoid?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > On 5/27/16, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> I think the hardest thing for me with the first dog was giving over
> some of
> >> the responsibility that I used to take using a cane to the dog. I
> wanted to
> >> know all of the things about my environment that I used to know with the
> >> cane because I trusted me more than the dog. Now I sort of wonder why I
> >> felt
> >> that way, having retired the dog and gone back to using a cane.
> >> Lots of wonderful times and happy trails, Rachel.
> >> Cindy
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel
> Grider
> >> via
> >> NAGDU
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:28 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >>
> >> Thank you all for your advice! This makes me feel better. I am leaving
> for
> >> NJ on Monday and should meet my new guide dog on Wednesday.
> >> Getting excited!
> >>
> >> On 5/24/16, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>                     I like the compromises others have suggested. In
> >> public, I'd bring
> >>> the dog, your friend doesn't get to decide that. At home, in her home,
> >>> then she does as do you.
> >>> Really, you need to realize that relationships always change, people
> >>> get married, have children, move away, find hobbies. Only you can know
> >>> if you want t his change to happen. If no, then don't get a dog. If
> >>> yes, then get one.
> >>> I no longer have a dog. When I did, a good friend and I weren't very
> >> close.
> >>> When I stopped using a dog, we became close. He just doesn't like dogs
> >>> and that's fine. It put a crimp in our friendship while I was using
> >>> one but he was never a butt head about it... he just didn't want to
> >>> hang out when my dog was present, and I didn't want to leave the dog
> just
> >> for him.
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara
> >>> Wiseman via NAGDU
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:40 PM
> >>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Cc: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >>>
> >>> Hi, first of all I want to say congratulations! I have loved having a
> >>> dog from the Seeing Eye! My brother has allergies to dogs and is also
> >>> not a dog fan. Here is the compromise that we have come up with. If he
> >>> is hosting a family dinner, and I have family taking me to and from, I
> >>> leave any at home.
> >>> If we were meeting at his house to then go somewhere where I would
> >>> need to use Emmy, or if I were coming to his house on my own, I would
> >>> be OK to bring Amy. I didn't make it totally clear at the beginning,
> >>> but Amy is the name of my dog. Congratulations to you and keep us
> >>> posted!
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hello, Friends!
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't usually post to this list because, having never used a guide
> >>>> dog,
> >>> I have nothing productive to contribute. This is shortly going to
> >>> change, though, as I will be going to the Seeing Eye to train with a
> >>> new guide dog in two weeks! I am very excited, though this decision
> >>> has been a very long time coming. I am still unsure about some things,
> >>> but I know that I will need to try it out in order to know for sure if
> >>> a guide dog will be the best mobility aid for me.
> >>>> I have a few questions for y'all about adjusting to a new guide dog.
> >>>> I
> >>> will probably think of many more as I proceed, but here are a few with
> >>> which to start:
> >>>> 1. I teach private voice lessons. I have already notified my students
> >>>> that
> >>> I will be away for most of June, but I have not yet told them why. I
> >>> know that it would probably be common courtesy to let them know that I
> >>> am getting a guide dog before they show up to my studio and see my dog
> >>> there. I am nervout about telling them because I don't know what kind
> >>> of reaction I will get. What have some of you done in similar
> >>> situations, and how have your students/clients/associates reacted?
> >>>> 2. I happen to own a cat who is not only quite territorial but also
> >>> extremely emotionally attached to me; I mean, when I am home, this cat
> >>> literally follows me around and is always trying to get me to either
> >>> play or cuddle with her. The man who did my home interview didn't seem
> >>> too concerned about her adjusting to a dog, but because the emotional
> >>> well-being of my cat is extremely important to me, I cannot help being
> >>> worried. I know this sounds really stupid, but I am afraid that
> >>> because my dog will go with me whenever I leave my house, and then
> >>> return home with me, my cat will begin to associate me with the dog
> >>> and instead of growing used to my dog over time, she will resent me
> >>> and not want to be around me as much. Am I reading too much into this?
> >>> Regardless, what are some ways in which you have made the transition
> >>> easier for your pets?
> >>>> 3. I have two good friends who are allergic to dog hair. Both of them
> >>>> are
> >>> not worried about being around me with the dog, as long as I keep it
> >>> brushed, but I am concerned that despite their reassurances, my
> >>> relationships with them will suffer. One of these friends told me that
> >>> service dogs have been brought to her house before, and as long as the
> >>> dog stayed in the back yard, everything was fine. Is that appropriate
> >>> to do with a guide dog? How have some of you dealt with this?
> >>>> That will be it for now. Any advice would be appreciated. I am
> >>>> counting
> >>> down the days until I will get to meet my new guide, but I still want
> >>> to make sure that all proactical considerations are made.
> >>>> Cheers!
> >>>>
> >>>> Rachel
> >>>>
> >>>> http//www.rachelgrider.com
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 10:31:00 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
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> Cindy, that's interesting there aren't many guide dogs in Des Moines.  Is
> it
> a hangover from the days when Jernigan ran the Iowa Commission?  I hear
> they
> were very anti-dog.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:44 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Well, that is fair. In Des Moines not nearly as many people use dogs, and
> Midwestern folks can be nosy. But it isn't about whether or not I tuck the
> dog under the table. But for a long time here, and even now, dogs weren't
> used much.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:06 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> I remember in college someone I was with said people were staring at me in
> the cafeteria.  I remember it because it was a surprise to me, but made me
> realize that people are probably staring at me pretty often.  I don't care;
> that's their problem. I have places to go and things to do.
> It does annoy me when I stand out because the dog is creeping up to things.
> Krokus is not always keen to go into our office building--so boring.  So I
> have to encourage him to walk up to the door, and praise him up when he
> does.  Then some fool thinks I'm having trouble with the door, because I
> haven't bounded up to it and whipped it open.  That kind of thing annoys
> me.
> But it won't stop me working with the big goof to go up to the door.
>
> People don't often stop me to talk about the dog, or interrupt me while I'm
> eating out.  I think it's partly because I tuck the dog under the table as
> much as I can, so he's not very obvious, and partly just that the attitude
> in the New York City area is to mind your own business. It makes it harder
> to get to know the neighbors, but easier to walk down the street.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Hello:
>
> I really don't care if I stand out.  I am blind.  I choose to use a guide
> dog.  Yes, that makes me different than most of the population but, so
> what?
>
> It is no big deal.  I am doing what I have to do and don't care what anyone
> else thinks.  I don't mind people stopping me to ask about my dog.  I am
> thrilled with her and don't mind sharing her with others.  You will stand
> out whether you use a dog or a cane.  Actually you stand out more with a
> long white cane.  Walking with a dog is so free and easy that you are no
> different than the folks out walking with their pet dogs.  Life is much too
> short and with lots of other stuff to worry about so, stop worrying about
> standing out.  You are blind so, you will always be noticed.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:35 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Well honestly, we'll stand out whether we use a cane or a dog because the
> minority of people are blind and the majority sighted. The majority neither
> need a cane for mobility nor a dog, I've stopped worrying about it, I mean,
> granted I worry about other things, but not that any more.
>
> Yours most sincerely,
> Dan the man
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I have had to go back three times, but I had never really bonded with the
> dog.  I was sad about it, sure, but I wanted a dog that would work for me.
> It is painful, but my problem was more a sense of failure, and they worked
> with me on that. I think you are going Monday and are anxious; also, I
> think
> you are over thinking it. I am going to truthfully say that some of the
> cons
> I had in mind never really went away for me. For instance, I got sick of
> people interrupting conversations I was having with people to ask me
> questions about my dog even though I might be having a serious
> conversation.
> And people talking to me instead of my dog was a problem. Some of the
> things
> I dealt with better as time went on, but I grew weary. For some people
> these
> aren't issues, so don't please think that I think you are making a mistake.
> I would also say that now that I'm not using a dog, I miss to some extent
> the easier movement with the dog, though right now I'm not sure it would be
> available because I'm having trouble walking. Strangely though, when I went
> to get a dog, well when I was deciding, I said I didn't want to stand out,
> look different. Chuck suggested that I already did because I am using a
> cane. True enough. And now I feel like I am standing out because it is hard
> for me to walk and I am sticking my cane out so far to make sure I don't
> have any serious mishaps, so much of it turns out to be trade offs. I think
> you will be thrilled with your dog. Don't over think it; relax; have a
> grand
> time at the school; keep us posted when you can on the dog. Next week at
> this time you will have had your furry companion two days, almost three.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 1:09 PM
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I think I will definitely have a hard time with giving up my cane. I love
> to
> be able to learn about my environment with my cane, and I am used to being
> in total control. With a dog, I will have to give up some of that control,
> but I will hopefully be trading control for better speed and grace when
> walking through hazardous environments.
>
> Last week, I began wondering if I really should get a guide dog because I
> thought that maybe the worries I had and the possible issues I could
> foresee
> were just too much, and maybe a guide dog just wasn't the best thing for me
> at this time in my life. I made a numbered list of all the personal
> benefits
> of getting a guide dog (which I am still adding to as I think of more, by
> the way) and another list of all the possible problems and inconveniences
> that a guide dog would create. I was greatly encouraged because the pros
> greatly outnumbered the cons, and I have even taken some of the cons off
> the
> list altogether as I think of ways to get around them.
>
> I still have a ton of questions, but I think that as long as I have a guide
> dog that fits my personality and lifestyle, everything will work out. My
> biggest worry at this point is that somehow the dog they choose for me will
> end up being the wrong choice, and I will have to send it back for a new
> one
> after having already bonded with it. Does that ever happen, or am I being
> paranoid?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rachel
>
> On 5/27/16, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I think the hardest thing for me with the first dog was giving over
> > some of the responsibility that I used to take using a cane to the
> > dog. I wanted to know all of the things about my environment that I
> > used to know with the cane because I trusted me more than the dog. Now
> > I sort of wonder why I felt that way, having retired the dog and gone
> > back to using a cane.
> > Lots of wonderful times and happy trails, Rachel.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel
> > Grider via NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:28 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >
> > Thank you all for your advice! This makes me feel better. I am leaving
> > for NJ on Monday and should meet my new guide dog on Wednesday.
> > Getting excited!
> >
> > On 5/24/16, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> I like the compromises others have suggested. In
> > public, I'd bring
> >> the dog, your friend doesn't get to decide that. At home, in her
> >> home, then she does as do you.
> >> Really, you need to realize that relationships always change, people
> >> get married, have children, move away, find hobbies. Only you can
> >> know if you want t his change to happen. If no, then don't get a dog.
> >> If yes, then get one.
> >> I no longer have a dog. When I did, a good friend and I weren't very
> > close.
> >> When I stopped using a dog, we became close. He just doesn't like
> >> dogs and that's fine. It put a crimp in our friendship while I was
> >> using one but he was never a butt head about it... he just didn't
> >> want to hang out when my dog was present, and I didn't want to leave
> >> the dog just
> > for him.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara
> >> Wiseman via NAGDU
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:40 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >>
> >> Hi, first of all I want to say congratulations! I have loved having a
> >> dog from the Seeing Eye! My brother has allergies to dogs and is also
> >> not a dog fan. Here is the compromise that we have come up with. If
> >> he is hosting a family dinner, and I have family taking me to and
> >> from, I leave any at home.
> >> If we were meeting at his house to then go somewhere where I would
> >> need to use Emmy, or if I were coming to his house on my own, I would
> >> be OK to bring Amy. I didn't make it totally clear at the beginning,
> >> but Amy is the name of my dog. Congratulations to you and keep us
> >> posted!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello, Friends!
> >>>
> >>> I don't usually post to this list because, having never used a guide
> >>> dog,
> >> I have nothing productive to contribute. This is shortly going to
> >> change, though, as I will be going to the Seeing Eye to train with a
> >> new guide dog in two weeks! I am very excited, though this decision
> >> has been a very long time coming. I am still unsure about some
> >> things, but I know that I will need to try it out in order to know
> >> for sure if a guide dog will be the best mobility aid for me.
> >>>
> >>> I have a few questions for y'all about adjusting to a new guide dog.
> >>> I
> >> will probably think of many more as I proceed, but here are a few
> >> with which to start:
> >>>
> >>> 1. I teach private voice lessons. I have already notified my
> >>> students that
> >> I will be away for most of June, but I have not yet told them why. I
> >> know that it would probably be common courtesy to let them know that
> >> I am getting a guide dog before they show up to my studio and see my
> >> dog there. I am nervout about telling them because I don't know what
> >> kind of reaction I will get. What have some of you done in similar
> >> situations, and how have your students/clients/associates reacted?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I happen to own a cat who is not only quite territorial but also
> >> extremely emotionally attached to me; I mean, when I am home, this
> >> cat literally follows me around and is always trying to get me to
> >> either play or cuddle with her. The man who did my home interview
> >> didn't seem too concerned about her adjusting to a dog, but because
> >> the emotional well-being of my cat is extremely important to me, I
> >> cannot help being worried. I know this sounds really stupid, but I am
> >> afraid that because my dog will go with me whenever I leave my house,
> >> and then return home with me, my cat will begin to associate me with
> >> the dog and instead of growing used to my dog over time, she will
> >> resent me and not want to be around me as much. Am I reading too much
> into this?
> >> Regardless, what are some ways in which you have made the transition
> >> easier for your pets?
> >>>
> >>> 3. I have two good friends who are allergic to dog hair. Both of
> >>> them are
> >> not worried about being around me with the dog, as long as I keep it
> >> brushed, but I am concerned that despite their reassurances, my
> >> relationships with them will suffer. One of these friends told me
> >> that service dogs have been brought to her house before, and as long
> >> as the dog stayed in the back yard, everything was fine. Is that
> >> appropriate to do with a guide dog? How have some of you dealt with
> this?
> >>>
> >>> That will be it for now. Any advice would be appreciated. I am
> >>> counting
> >> down the days until I will get to meet my new guide, but I still want
> >> to make sure that all proactical considerations are made.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>> Rachel
> >>>
> >>> http//www.rachelgrider.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:35:36 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
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> Yes, it is actually a hang over from the Jernigan days in Des Moines. That
> did, of course, change, and there are certainly more dogs than there were,
> but at a given state NFB convention, for instance, four would be a high
> number to see there. When I first got a dog, even a friend of mine, who has
> since altered her opinion, was just shocked and said I had to be crazy to
> be
> doing that. I was glad I had Chuck for support. And when I came back here I
> was given to understand that people were not going to make over my dog.
> Well, of course, that was fine with me. Off course it was not like that.
> Certainly, there is still a little underlying attitude like that, but
> mostly
> it is gone. It is possible that younger people who get dogs now and don't
> really know all of this history don't even notice.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 9:31 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Cindy, that's interesting there aren't many guide dogs in Des Moines.  Is
> it
> a hangover from the days when Jernigan ran the Iowa Commission?  I hear
> they
> were very anti-dog.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:44 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Well, that is fair. In Des Moines not nearly as many people use dogs, and
> Midwestern folks can be nosy. But it isn't about whether or not I tuck the
> dog under the table. But for a long time here, and even now, dogs weren't
> used much.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:06 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> I remember in college someone I was with said people were staring at me in
> the cafeteria.  I remember it because it was a surprise to me, but made me
> realize that people are probably staring at me pretty often.  I don't care;
> that's their problem. I have places to go and things to do.
> It does annoy me when I stand out because the dog is creeping up to things.
> Krokus is not always keen to go into our office building--so boring.  So I
> have to encourage him to walk up to the door, and praise him up when he
> does.  Then some fool thinks I'm having trouble with the door, because I
> haven't bounded up to it and whipped it open.  That kind of thing annoys
> me.
> But it won't stop me working with the big goof to go up to the door.
>
> People don't often stop me to talk about the dog, or interrupt me while I'm
> eating out.  I think it's partly because I tuck the dog under the table as
> much as I can, so he's not very obvious, and partly just that the attitude
> in the New York City area is to mind your own business. It makes it harder
> to get to know the neighbors, but easier to walk down the street.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:16 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Hello:
>
> I really don't care if I stand out.  I am blind.  I choose to use a guide
> dog.  Yes, that makes me different than most of the population but, so
> what?
>
> It is no big deal.  I am doing what I have to do and don't care what anyone
> else thinks.  I don't mind people stopping me to ask about my dog.  I am
> thrilled with her and don't mind sharing her with others.  You will stand
> out whether you use a dog or a cane.  Actually you stand out more with a
> long white cane.  Walking with a dog is so free and easy that you are no
> different than the folks out walking with their pet dogs.  Life is much too
> short and with lots of other stuff to worry about so, stop worrying about
> standing out.  You are blind so, you will always be noticed.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Weiner via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 8:35 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: [NAGDU] Do we stand out?
>
> Well honestly, we'll stand out whether we use a cane or a dog because the
> minority of people are blind and the majority sighted. The majority neither
> need a cane for mobility nor a dog, I've stopped worrying about it, I mean,
> granted I worry about other things, but not that any more.
>
> Yours most sincerely,
> Dan the man
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 2:52 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I have had to go back three times, but I had never really bonded with the
> dog.  I was sad about it, sure, but I wanted a dog that would work for me.
> It is painful, but my problem was more a sense of failure, and they worked
> with me on that. I think you are going Monday and are anxious; also, I
> think
> you are over thinking it. I am going to truthfully say that some of the
> cons
> I had in mind never really went away for me. For instance, I got sick of
> people interrupting conversations I was having with people to ask me
> questions about my dog even though I might be having a serious
> conversation.
> And people talking to me instead of my dog was a problem. Some of the
> things
> I dealt with better as time went on, but I grew weary. For some people
> these
> aren't issues, so don't please think that I think you are making a mistake.
> I would also say that now that I'm not using a dog, I miss to some extent
> the easier movement with the dog, though right now I'm not sure it would be
> available because I'm having trouble walking. Strangely though, when I went
> to get a dog, well when I was deciding, I said I didn't want to stand out,
> look different. Chuck suggested that I already did because I am using a
> cane. True enough. And now I feel like I am standing out because it is hard
> for me to walk and I am sticking my cane out so far to make sure I don't
> have any serious mishaps, so much of it turns out to be trade offs. I think
> you will be thrilled with your dog. Don't over think it; relax; have a
> grand
> time at the school; keep us posted when you can on the dog. Next week at
> this time you will have had your furry companion two days, almost three.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 1:09 PM
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> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
>
> I think I will definitely have a hard time with giving up my cane. I love
> to
> be able to learn about my environment with my cane, and I am used to being
> in total control. With a dog, I will have to give up some of that control,
> but I will hopefully be trading control for better speed and grace when
> walking through hazardous environments.
>
> Last week, I began wondering if I really should get a guide dog because I
> thought that maybe the worries I had and the possible issues I could
> foresee
> were just too much, and maybe a guide dog just wasn't the best thing for me
> at this time in my life. I made a numbered list of all the personal
> benefits
> of getting a guide dog (which I am still adding to as I think of more, by
> the way) and another list of all the possible problems and inconveniences
> that a guide dog would create. I was greatly encouraged because the pros
> greatly outnumbered the cons, and I have even taken some of the cons off
> the
> list altogether as I think of ways to get around them.
>
> I still have a ton of questions, but I think that as long as I have a guide
> dog that fits my personality and lifestyle, everything will work out. My
> biggest worry at this point is that somehow the dog they choose for me will
> end up being the wrong choice, and I will have to send it back for a new
> one
> after having already bonded with it. Does that ever happen, or am I being
> paranoid?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rachel
>
> On 5/27/16, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I think the hardest thing for me with the first dog was giving over
> > some of the responsibility that I used to take using a cane to the
> > dog. I wanted to know all of the things about my environment that I
> > used to know with the cane because I trusted me more than the dog. Now
> > I sort of wonder why I felt that way, having retired the dog and gone
> > back to using a cane.
> > Lots of wonderful times and happy trails, Rachel.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel
> > Grider via NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 5:28 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >
> > Thank you all for your advice! This makes me feel better. I am leaving
> > for NJ on Monday and should meet my new guide dog on Wednesday.
> > Getting excited!
> >
> > On 5/24/16, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >> I like the compromises others have suggested. In
> > public, I'd bring
> >> the dog, your friend doesn't get to decide that. At home, in her
> >> home, then she does as do you.
> >> Really, you need to realize that relationships always change, people
> >> get married, have children, move away, find hobbies. Only you can
> >> know if you want t his change to happen. If no, then don't get a dog.
> >> If yes, then get one.
> >> I no longer have a dog. When I did, a good friend and I weren't very
> > close.
> >> When I stopped using a dog, we became close. He just doesn't like
> >> dogs and that's fine. It put a crimp in our friendship while I was
> >> using one but he was never a butt head about it... he just didn't
> >> want to hang out when my dog was present, and I didn't want to leave
> >> the dog just
> > for him.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara
> >> Wiseman via NAGDU
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:40 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Questions About Getting My First Guide Dog
> >>
> >> Hi, first of all I want to say congratulations! I have loved having a
> >> dog from the Seeing Eye! My brother has allergies to dogs and is also
> >> not a dog fan. Here is the compromise that we have come up with. If
> >> he is hosting a family dinner, and I have family taking me to and
> >> from, I leave any at home.
> >> If we were meeting at his house to then go somewhere where I would
> >> need to use Emmy, or if I were coming to his house on my own, I would
> >> be OK to bring Amy. I didn't make it totally clear at the beginning,
> >> but Amy is the name of my dog. Congratulations to you and keep us
> >> posted!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello, Friends!
> >>>
> >>> I don't usually post to this list because, having never used a guide
> >>> dog,
> >> I have nothing productive to contribute. This is shortly going to
> >> change, though, as I will be going to the Seeing Eye to train with a
> >> new guide dog in two weeks! I am very excited, though this decision
> >> has been a very long time coming. I am still unsure about some
> >> things, but I know that I will need to try it out in order to know
> >> for sure if a guide dog will be the best mobility aid for me.
> >>>
> >>> I have a few questions for y'all about adjusting to a new guide dog.
> >>> I
> >> will probably think of many more as I proceed, but here are a few
> >> with which to start:
> >>>
> >>> 1. I teach private voice lessons. I have already notified my
> >>> students that
> >> I will be away for most of June, but I have not yet told them why. I
> >> know that it would probably be common courtesy to let them know that
> >> I am getting a guide dog before they show up to my studio and see my
> >> dog there. I am nervout about telling them because I don't know what
> >> kind of reaction I will get. What have some of you done in similar
> >> situations, and how have your students/clients/associates reacted?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I happen to own a cat who is not only quite territorial but also
> >> extremely emotionally attached to me; I mean, when I am home, this
> >> cat literally follows me around and is always trying to get me to
> >> either play or cuddle with her. The man who did my home interview
> >> didn't seem too concerned about her adjusting to a dog, but because
> >> the emotional well-being of my cat is extremely important to me, I
> >> cannot help being worried. I know this sounds really stupid, but I am
> >> afraid that because my dog will go with me whenever I leave my house,
> >> and then return home with me, my cat will begin to associate me with
> >> the dog and instead of growing used to my dog over time, she will
> >> resent me and not want to be around me as much. Am I reading too much
> into this?
> >> Regardless, what are some ways in which you have made the transition
> >> easier for your pets?
> >>>
> >>> 3. I have two good friends who are allergic to dog hair. Both of
> >>> them are
> >> not worried about being around me with the dog, as long as I keep it
> >> brushed, but I am concerned that despite their reassurances, my
> >> relationships with them will suffer. One of these friends told me
> >> that service dogs have been brought to her house before, and as long
> >> as the dog stayed in the back yard, everything was fine. Is that
> >> appropriate to do with a guide dog? How have some of you dealt with
> this?
> >>>
> >>> That will be it for now. Any advice would be appreciated. I am
> >>> counting
> >> down the days until I will get to meet my new guide, but I still want
> >> to make sure that all proactical considerations are made.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!
> >>>
> >>> Rachel
> >>>
> >>> http//www.rachelgrider.com
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:17:53 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <01fede3fa6925c1ddc3216443337f49a.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
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> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home, since
> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt
> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
> confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
> aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 13:33:48 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> Wow, Tracy, it sounds as if Krokus has achieved a milestone. I haven't left
> my dog alone enough to trust him, and the others aren't trustworthy anyway.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:18 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home, since
> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would be
> stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt Krokus
> has
> matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of confining him to
> the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence aroused his inner
> puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> alone,
> but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> Tracy
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:55:46 -0400
> From: Jessica Dail <jldail13 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> hi,You're not supposed to leave your leaderdog alone, are you? I thought a
> leaderdog is supposed to go anywhere the handler goes, unless there's a
> problem. Can someone clarifythis for me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 31, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> since
> > it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
> > be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt
> > Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
> > confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
> > aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> > Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> > alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:05:31 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> There are times when you would simply not want to take your dog with you. I
> think it really doesn't matter what school the dog came from. I can't say
> what Leader says about this, but here are times when you might feel it
> would
> be better for you and for the dog if you don't take it.
>
> . If you are going to a very loud concert or a program that includes
> fireworks.
> .
>  A bar where there are lots of peanuts and shells on the floor.
> . If you felt some concern about your dog's interaction with other animals,
> maybe to a zoo or some kind of circus.
> . A friend's house where the friend has allergies.
> . A party where there is a crowd and lots of food sitting around. (I find
> this uncomfortable sometimes.)
>
> My ex-husband told me to figure out the places where I wouldn't want to
> take
> a dog and then take the dog anyway. I agree with this mostly, but I have
> found, for instance, that I can't take the dog where there will be lots of
> dogs that are new to him. None of the places I mentioned above are off
> limits, but sometimes it is easier not to take the dog there.
> Hope this helps.
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jessica Dail
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:56 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jessica Dail <jldail13 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> hi,You're not supposed to leave your leaderdog alone, are you? I thought a
> leaderdog is supposed to go anywhere the handler goes, unless there's a
> problem. Can someone clarifythis for me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 31, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> > since it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and
> > I would be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.
> > I felt Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house,
> > instead of confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in
> > case my absence aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I
> thought he'd be.
> > Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> > alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 12:23:32 -0700
> From: Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
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> I want to add that you might not want to take your dog if you go
> bike riding or to an amusement park unless you know someone who
> can care for your dog when you're on rides.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:05:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> There are times when you would simply not want to take your dog
> with you.  I
> think it really doesn't matter what school the dog came from.  I
> can't say
> what Leader says about this, but here are times when you might
> feel it would
> be better for you and for the dog if you don't take it.
>
> .  If you are going to a very loud concert or a program that
> includes
> fireworks.
> .
>  A bar where there are lots of peanuts and shells on the floor.
> .  If you felt some concern about your dog's interaction with
> other animals,
> maybe to a zoo or some kind of circus.
> .  A friend's house where the friend has allergies.
> .  A party where there is a crowd and lots of food sitting
> around.  (I find
> this uncomfortable sometimes.)
>
> My ex-husband told me to figure out the places where I wouldn't
> want to take
> a dog and then take the dog anyway.  I agree with this mostly,
> but I have
> found, for instance, that I can't take the dog where there will
> be lots of
> dogs that are new to him.  None of the places I mentioned above
> are off
> limits, but sometimes it is easier not to take the dog there.
> Hope this helps.
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jessica Dail via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:56 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jessica Dail <jldail13 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> hi,You're not supposed to leave your leaderdog alone, are you? I
> thought a
> leaderdog is supposed to go anywhere the handler goes, unless
> there's a
> problem.  Can someone clarifythis for me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>  On May 31, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> wrote:
>
>  Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus
> home,
>  since it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my
> husband and
>  I would be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair
> happenings.
>  I felt Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house,
>  instead of confining him to the crate.  I just put away my
> shoes, in
>  case my absence aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just
> as I
> thought he'd be.
>  Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be
> free and
>  alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing
> up.
>  Tracy
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 14:27:54 -0600
> From: Daryl Lang <crazymusician at shaw.ca>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <D4863539-3E22-49D0-92DE-BEDB41C00F59 at shaw.ca>
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> A guide dog is supposed to enhance your life. Not all places are
> appropriate for guide dogs, and it's up to a responsible Handler to
> understand when and where those situations are. Occasionally leaving your
> dog at home is not a bad thing, but it will become a problem if you end up
> leaving your dog more often than taking him or her. Ultimately, it was
> decided that this particular environment was not appropriate to take her dog
>
> On May 31, 2016 12:55:46 PM MDT, Jessica Dail via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >hi,You're not supposed to leave your leaderdog alone, are you? I
> >thought a leaderdog is supposed to go anywhere the handler goes, unless
> >there's a problem. Can someone clarifythis for me?
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 31, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> ><nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> >since
> >> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I
> >would
> >> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt
> >> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
> >> confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my
> >absence
> >> aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> >
> >> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> >> alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> >> Tracy
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:15:52 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <00a401d1bc10$1b5774b0$52065e10$@access.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Adding to what Daryl said, different people have different ideas about when
> the dog shouldn't come along, and that's fine.  In fact, I have different
> ideas, depending on the dog I have, among lots of other variables.
> For instance, I didn't think twice about taking my old dog to a neighbor's
> party where she had food set out on low tables, but I would seriously think
> about leaving my young dog home in the same circumstances, as I might find
> myself spending more time on controlling him than enjoying myself
> socializing.  But, if the same party required a bus or subway trip, I'd
> probably take him.
> In college, I always took my dog everywhere all the time, but everywhere I
> needed to go required crossing busy streets or parking lots, or taking a
> bus.  Now, sometimes, if I feel circumstances warrant, I'll leave the big
> guy home.  The main thing is if we're going to a dinner dance.  I want to
> jump up and dance, without worrying that my dog has also jumped up and is
> cleaning off the table, or getting stepped on.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Lang via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 4:28 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Daryl Lang
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> A guide dog is supposed to enhance your life. Not all places are
> appropriate
> for guide dogs, and it's up to a responsible Handler to understand when and
> where those situations are. Occasionally leaving your dog at home is not a
> bad thing, but it will become a problem if you end up leaving your dog more
> often than taking him or her. Ultimately, it was decided that this
> particular environment was not appropriate to take her dog
>
> On May 31, 2016 12:55:46 PM MDT, Jessica Dail via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >hi,You're not supposed to leave your leaderdog alone, are you? I
> >thought a leaderdog is supposed to go anywhere the handler goes, unless
> >there's a problem. Can someone clarifythis for me?
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 31, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> ><nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> >since
> >> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I
> >would
> >> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt
> >> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
> >> confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my
> >absence
> >> aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> >
> >> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> >> alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> >> Tracy
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:50:01 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <00ac01d1bc14$e05dda70$a1198f50$@access.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thinking about it, Krokus has been spending more time "alone" this spring,
> which is probably what helped me feel confident he could really be alone
> for
> an hour or so.  He's "alone" when I'm outside working in the garden, and my
> husband is doing his own thing in his man-space.  I come in and out as I'm
> working, but, if I bother to check, Krokus is sleeping somewhere and not
> getting into mischief, like he used to.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:34 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Wow, Tracy, it sounds as if Krokus has achieved a milestone. I haven't left
> my dog alone enough to trust him, and the others aren't trustworthy anyway.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:18 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home, since
> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would be
> stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt Krokus
> has
> matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of confining him to
> the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence aroused his inner
> puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> alone,
> but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> Tracy
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:50:10 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <03c001d1bc14$e5d8e620$b18ab260$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dale, I think you put this well. And yes, I agree that to leave the dog
> more
> often than not is to potentially create a problem. I like how you put this.
> Tracy, your explanation was quite nice, too.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Lang via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 3:28 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Daryl Lang <crazymusician at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> A guide dog is supposed to enhance your life. Not all places are
> appropriate
> for guide dogs, and it's up to a responsible Handler to understand when and
> where those situations are. Occasionally leaving your dog at home is not a
> bad thing, but it will become a problem if you end up leaving your dog more
> often than taking him or her. Ultimately, it was decided that this
> particular environment was not appropriate to take her dog
>
> On May 31, 2016 12:55:46 PM MDT, Jessica Dail via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >hi,You're not supposed to leave your leaderdog alone, are you? I
> >thought a leaderdog is supposed to go anywhere the handler goes, unless
> >there's a problem. Can someone clarifythis for me?
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 31, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> ><nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> >since
> >> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I
> >would
> >> be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt
> >> Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
> >> confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my
> >absence
> >> aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> >
> >> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> >> alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> >> Tracy
> >>
> >>
> >>
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>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:56:56 -0700
> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <574F05C8.3050300 at poodlemutt.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Tracy,
>
> So I guess they do grow up. Giving him short times while you're nearby
> probably did help him feel more comfortable by himself, too. Still, that
> first time leaving home with the dog there free to destroy at will is a
> scary, scary thing. I find myself just not wanting to go home again,
> ever. /lol/ I think for the most part, you just know when the dog is
> ready, and you have to take a deep breath and let the dog show you he's
> a grown up. You hope.
>
> Glad you're big puppy is turning into a dog at last. How old is he now?
> My big puppy is a bit past his 2nd birthday, and sometimes he acts like
> a dog. Other times... Not there yet! Maybe someday. Of course, the
> minute I notice he really is an adult, I'll stop fretting about his
> growing old. I wish they wouldn't do that.
>
> Tami
>
> On 06/01/2016 07:50 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> > Thinking about it, Krokus has been spending more time "alone" this
> spring,
> > which is probably what helped me feel confident he could really be alone
> for
> > an hour or so.  He's "alone" when I'm outside working in the garden, and
> my
> > husband is doing his own thing in his man-space.  I come in and out as
> I'm
> > working, but, if I bother to check, Krokus is sleeping somewhere and not
> > getting into mischief, like he used to.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:34 PM
> > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> > Cc: Cindy Ray
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> >
> > Wow, Tracy, it sounds as if Krokus has achieved a milestone. I haven't
> left
> > my dog alone enough to trust him, and the others aren't trustworthy
> anyway.
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Carcione
> > via NAGDU
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:18 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Home alone
> >
> > Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> since
> > it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
> be
> > stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt Krokus
> has
> > matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of confining him
> to
> > the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence aroused his
> inner
> > puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> > Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> alone,
> > but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> > Tracy
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:51:53 -0400
> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <7E44CD36CBE64067A9B606E5A0661848 at SLJohnson>
>
> Tracy:
>
> I am glad to hear that Krokus is growing up and being a good boy so you can
> leave him alone.  All your hard work with him is finally paying off.  There
> are some places it just isn't practical to take our dogs with us.  I agree,
> some parties or out to dinner and dancing isn't a good time to have the dog
> along.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 10:50 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Thinking about it, Krokus has been spending more time "alone" this spring,
> which is probably what helped me feel confident he could really be alone
> for
> an hour or so.  He's "alone" when I'm outside working in the garden, and my
> husband is doing his own thing in his man-space.  I come in and out as I'm
> working, but, if I bother to check, Krokus is sleeping somewhere and not
> getting into mischief, like he used to.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:34 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Wow, Tracy, it sounds as if Krokus has achieved a milestone. I haven't left
> my dog alone enough to trust him, and the others aren't trustworthy anyway.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:18 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Home alone
>
> Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home, since
> it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would be
> stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt Krokus
> has
> matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of confining him to
> the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence aroused his inner
> puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> alone,
> but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> Tracy
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 21:03:46 -0400
> From: Sean Moore <seanmoore87 at gmail.com>
> To: National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] ergo  handle
> Message-ID: <20BACF1E-C26D-4492-924A-F6973BEB4AA0 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Can  someone  be  kind  enough     to  describe   a ergo handle  to  me
> offlist
>
> i?ve  used  one  before  once when Franklin was  still  working  for  a
> walk  but  don?t  remember it  well.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean  and  Rob
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 20:09:35 -0700
> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
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> Hi Jen, Mardi here. I have had to make that decision many times over the
> last 40 + years and it never gets any easier, but it is the right thing to
> do . I am glad that you have the time to spend with Nixon on his last day.
> Our dogs are so special. You and Nixon are in my thoughts and prayers.
> Mardi
>
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> >    1. Re: Nixon (Tami Jarvis)
> >    2. Re: Nixon (NAGDU President)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 08:08:16 -0700
> > From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Nixon
> > Message-ID: <57431CE0.3010002 at poodlemutt.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> >
> > Jen,
> >
> > I'm sorry it is time for him to move on, but glad you are able to
> > prepare and to spend that last good time with him. I still remember
> > Nixon as a fine young guide from when I was starting to hang around
> > guide dog lists. Where does the time go? Love your boy, and know you're
> > doing the right thing letting him go.
> >
> > Tami
> >
> > On 05/22/2016 05:03 PM, Jen via NAGDU wrote:
> > > I know I hardly ever write, but I do read messages on here and learn
> from
> > > folks . but some of you know me from years of various email lists may
> > like
> > > to know this news but some of you will already know if you are FB
> friends
> > > with me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nixon will earn his angel wings on May 27th at 3:30. He will be
> cremated
> > so
> > > I can keep him close to my heart "fur"ever. I took the afternoon off so
> > I'll
> > > spend the last quality time with him before he's free. He will go on
> his
> > > last camping trip this weekend.
> > >
> > > We got the sign after he couldn't get up and relieving all over
> himself.
> > > It's time... He lived 13 wonderful years of his life. 7 years of
> working
> > at
> > > my side and 4 years of wonderful retirement.
> > >
> > > (BTW: He went on his last camping trip with my parents this past
> weekend
> > and
> > > he did look tired after all the walking. He looked pretty tired from it
> > > all..)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jen and Aiken McEachen
> > >
> > > Pampered Critters House and Pet Sitting Services
> > >
> > > Email me to inquire about my services at: pamperedcritters at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:pamperedcritters at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > www.pamperedcritters.ca <http://www.pamperedcritters.ca>  /
> > > http://www.facebook.com/pamperedcritters
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 11:53:04 -0400
> > From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
> >         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Nixon
> > Message-ID: <005e01d1b50b$319ac7b0$94d05710$@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Jen,
> >
> >         I completely understand how difficult this time might be. I made
> > this same decision for my last two guides and, even though I knew it was
> > the
> > right and best thing to do, that didn't make it any easier to say
> > "good-bye!
> > My lab, Diamond, had the same issue as Nixon. I knew he was unhappy and
> > felt
> > very undignified when I would find him lying on his bed in his own feces
> > because he didn't have the strength to go out. Even now, it brings tears
> to
> > my eyes thinking about that since he was a very strong, faithful, and
> > poised
> > dog. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers!
> >
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via NAGDU
> > Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:04 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Jen
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Nixon
> >
> > I know I hardly ever write, but I do read messages on here and learn from
> > folks . but some of you know me from years of various email lists may
> like
> > to know this news but some of you will already know if you are FB friends
> > with me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nixon will earn his angel wings on May 27th at 3:30. He will be cremated
> so
> > I can keep him close to my heart "fur"ever. I took the afternoon off so
> > I'll
> > spend the last quality time with him before he's free. He will go on his
> > last camping trip this weekend.
> >
> > We got the sign after he couldn't get up and relieving all over himself.
> > It's time... He lived 13 wonderful years of his life. 7 years of working
> at
> > my side and 4 years of wonderful retirement.
> >
> > (BTW: He went on his last camping trip with my parents this past weekend
> > and
> > he did look tired after all the walking. He looked pretty tired from it
> > all..)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jen and Aiken McEachen
> >
> > Pampered Critters House and Pet Sitting Services
> >
> > Email me to inquire about my services at: pamperedcritters at gmail.com
> > <mailto:pamperedcritters at gmail.com>
> >
> > www.pamperedcritters.ca <http://www.pamperedcritters.ca>  /
> > http://www.facebook.com/pamperedcritters
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:17:46 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo
> Message-ID: <004d01d1bd9a$51f92230$f5eb6690$@access.net>
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>
> >From dogfood Advisor:
>
> On May 31, 2016, Blue Buffalo Company announced it is voluntarily recalling
> a select lot of its Blue Buffalo Life Protection Formula dog food due to
> the
> presence of moisture and mold.
>
> To learn which products are affected, please visit the following link:
>
>
> Blue Buffalo Dog Food Recall of May 2016
> <
> http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=FlnOs&m=3bnvWlMSUNO0_1z&b=.18U_l.nmY9_JRRI
> KHa3VQ>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 11:43:19 -0500
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul at raulgallegos.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo
> Message-ID: <55d10cfe-fd2d-8c63-e46d-1364410c8fd8 at raulgallegos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> This is such a good brand of dog food. When I had my pet lab and my pet
> cat, this is all they ate. Well, the cat of course ate the cat food
> version. Now that I've applied for a new guide dog I had originally
> planned on going to this brand, but since I have seen that Diamond
> Naturals Lamb and Rice has worked very well, I may just go with that. In
> looking at the ingredients it is a similar high quality dog food so I
> think this one is equally as good as Blue Buffalo.
>
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> ?Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.? ?
> David Thornburg
>
> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285
> Office: 832.639.4477
> Personal Email: raul at raulgallegos.com
> Work Email: training at raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: @rau47 and @AT_Trainer
>
> On 6/3/2016 8:17 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> > From dogfood Advisor:
> >
> > On May 31, 2016, Blue Buffalo Company announced it is voluntarily
> recalling
> > a select lot of its Blue Buffalo Life Protection Formula dog food due to
> the
> > presence of moisture and mold.
> >
> > To learn which products are affected, please visit the following link:
> >
> >
> > Blue Buffalo Dog Food Recall of May 2016
> > <
> http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=FlnOs&m=3bnvWlMSUNO0_1z&b=.18U_l.nmY9_JRRI
> > KHa3VQ>
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 24
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 00:53:42 +0000
> From: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo
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> Interesting tidbit in Orangeburg SC, there is a diamond dog food plant.
> I see students in Orangeburg and my guide Doc is always in the backseat.
> He doesn't seem distracted by the smell.
> Just thought I'd share
> Sorry about the recall
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 4, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via NAGDU <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > This is such a good brand of dog food. When I had my pet lab and my pet
> > cat, this is all they ate. Well, the cat of course ate the cat food
> > version. Now that I've applied for a new guide dog I had originally
> > planned on going to this brand, but since I have seen that Diamond
> > Naturals Lamb and Rice has worked very well, I may just go with that. In
> > looking at the ingredients it is a similar high quality dog food so I
> > think this one is equally as good as Blue Buffalo.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Raul A. Gallegos
> > Assistive Technology Trainer
> > ?Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.? ?
> > David Thornburg
> >
> > Voice/Text: 832.554.7285
> > Office: 832.639.4477
> > Personal Email: raul at raulgallegos.com
> > Work Email: training at raulgallegos.com
> > Twitter: @rau47 and @AT_Trainer
> >
> >> On 6/3/2016 8:17 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> >> From dogfood Advisor:
> >>
> >> On May 31, 2016, Blue Buffalo Company announced it is voluntarily
> recalling
> >> a select lot of its Blue Buffalo Life Protection Formula dog food due
> to the
> >> presence of moisture and mold.
> >>
> >> To learn which products are affected, please visit the following link:
> >>
> >>
> >> Blue Buffalo Dog Food Recall of May 2016
> >> <
> http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=FlnOs&m=3bnvWlMSUNO0_1z&b=.18U_l.nmY9_JRRI
> >> KHa3VQ>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 09:50:08 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo
> Message-ID: <00aa01d1bf31$2c747f30$855d7d90$@access.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi Raul.
> I think Diamond has had some recalls, too.  I think dogfoodAdvisor.com
> lists
> recent recalls. It seems like most foods have had some recall some time,
> but
> it's good to know how your chosen food is, quality-wise, if you feel like
> checking it out.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raul A.
> Gallegos
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:43 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Raul A. Gallegos
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dogfood recall - Blue Buffalo
>
> This is such a good brand of dog food. When I had my pet lab and my pet
> cat,
> this is all they ate. Well, the cat of course ate the cat food version. Now
> that I've applied for a new guide dog I had originally planned on going to
> this brand, but since I have seen that Diamond Naturals Lamb and Rice has
> worked very well, I may just go with that. In looking at the ingredients it
> is a similar high quality dog food so I think this one is equally as good
> as
> Blue Buffalo.
>
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> "Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be." - David
> Thornburg
>
> Voice/Text: 832.554.7285
> Office: 832.639.4477
> Personal Email: raul at raulgallegos.com
> Work Email: training at raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: @rau47 and @AT_Trainer
>
> On 6/3/2016 8:17 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
> > From dogfood Advisor:
> >
> > On May 31, 2016, Blue Buffalo Company announced it is voluntarily
> > recalling a select lot of its Blue Buffalo Life Protection Formula dog
> > food due to the presence of moisture and mold.
> >
> > To learn which products are affected, please visit the following link:
> >
> >
> > Blue Buffalo Dog Food Recall of May 2016
> > <http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=FlnOs&m=3bnvWlMSUNO0_1z&b=.18U_l.nmY
> > 9_JRRI
> > KHa3VQ>
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 15:28:41 -0400
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Home alone
> Message-ID: <59837128.eff0.4e4b.8721.72d46d85528a at samobile.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> Original Gee Tracy
> You are no fun,
> my girl still needs to grow up.
> She will come up with anything to do in the house before I think of
> what she wants to do next.
> Love summer,
> We can spend most of the time outside, so she can dream up something there.
> Smile,
> message:
> > Yesterday was our town street fair.  I decided to leave Krokus home,
> since
> > it was only a couple blocks away; it was hot, and my husband and I would
> > be stopping a lot to investigate booths and fair happenings.  I felt
> > Krokus has matured enough to leave him free in the house, instead of
> > confining him to the crate.  I just put away my shoes, in case my absence
> > aroused his inner puppy.  And he was good, just as I thought he'd be.
> > Hooray! Even in January, I wasn't sure if he'd be able to be free and
> > alone, but now he can.  The ridiculous one is actually growing up.
> > Tracy
>
>
>
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> every saint has a past
> every sinner has a future
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:59:23 -0500
> From: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> Message-ID: <A89AF235-DE1D-4142-A1A0-8F739A6B2F93 at gmail.com>
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>
> Good afternoon y?all,
>
> I?m taking the ?poor woman express? Greyhound, to convention this year.
> I have not taken a long bus ride like this in years and never with
> Soleil.  I?m putting together lists of things I will need and am just
> wondering if anyone has any advice for good things to make the long ride
> easier for the dog?
> We get on the bus at night, so most of it will be spent sleeping, I hope.
> I?m hoping to pack a light blanket for her to sleep on, because I am kind
> of afraid the bus floor will be nasty.
>
> Also, I see that the bus station is about ten miles from the convention
> hotel.  I?m debating how I want to get from here to there, and would love
> any tips on their fixed-rout bus system, and/or pparatransit.
>
> Thanks, and see some of you in Orlando
>
> Rox?E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> Mill?E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:25:16 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> Message-ID: <000701d1bf81$850308b0$8f091a10$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> How long is the trip, Rox. The bus floor isn't really the biggest problem;
> it is other passengers slipping food to the dog. EEK!
> Cindy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox'E Homstad
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:59 PM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
>
> Good afternoon y'all,
>
> I'm taking the "poor woman express" Greyhound, to convention this year.
> I have not taken a long bus ride like this in years and never with Soleil.
> I'm putting together lists of things I will need and am just wondering if
> anyone has any advice for good things to make the long ride easier for the
> dog?
> We get on the bus at night, so most of it will be spent sleeping, I hope.
> I'm hoping to pack a light blanket for her to sleep on, because I am kind
> of
> afraid the bus floor will be nasty.
>
> Also, I see that the bus station is about ten miles from the convention
> hotel.  I'm debating how I want to get from here to there, and would love
> any tips on their fixed-rout bus system, and/or pparatransit.
>
> Thanks, and see some of you in Orlando
>
> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:29:05 -0500
> From: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> Message-ID: <C1C7F142-14DD-4976-8514-78984F22536C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> It?s about 14 hours.  I have a over the shoulder lead so I am physically
> connected to my dog at all times and can stop people from feeding/touching
> her.
> Thanks for mentioning the feeding thing though, I will look out for that.
>
> Rox?E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> Mill?E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>
> On Jun 5, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > How long is the trip, Rox. The bus floor isn't really the biggest
> problem;
> > it is other passengers slipping food to the dog. EEK!
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox'E
> Homstad via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:59 PM
> > To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> >
> > Good afternoon y'all,
> >
> > I'm taking the "poor woman express" Greyhound, to convention this year.
> > I have not taken a long bus ride like this in years and never with
> Soleil.
> > I'm putting together lists of things I will need and am just wondering if
> > anyone has any advice for good things to make the long ride easier for
> the
> > dog?
> > We get on the bus at night, so most of it will be spent sleeping, I hope.
> > I'm hoping to pack a light blanket for her to sleep on, because I am
> kind of
> > afraid the bus floor will be nasty.
> >
> > Also, I see that the bus station is about ten miles from the convention
> > hotel.  I'm debating how I want to get from here to there, and would love
> > any tips on their fixed-rout bus system, and/or pparatransit.
> >
> > Thanks, and see some of you in Orlando
> >
> > Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> > Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> > Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 18:33:59 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> Message-ID: <000801d1bf82$bc8c4ca0$35a4e5e0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Good, well at least you've thought of it. I haven't taken my dog to
> convention for years, and now he's retired. I have to confess that my heart
> is trying to get me to go get another; my head is saying no no no no no!
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox'E Homstad
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:29 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
>
> It's about 14 hours.  I have a over the shoulder lead so I am physically
> connected to my dog at all times and can stop people from feeding/touching
> her.
> Thanks for mentioning the feeding thing though, I will look out for that.
>
> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>
> On Jun 5, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > How long is the trip, Rox. The bus floor isn't really the biggest
> > problem; it is other passengers slipping food to the dog. EEK!
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox'E
> > Homstad via NAGDU
> > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:59 PM
> > To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> >
> > Good afternoon y'all,
> >
> > I'm taking the "poor woman express" Greyhound, to convention this year.
> > I have not taken a long bus ride like this in years and never with
> Soleil.
> > I'm putting together lists of things I will need and am just wondering
> > if anyone has any advice for good things to make the long ride easier
> > for the dog?
> > We get on the bus at night, so most of it will be spent sleeping, I hope.
> > I'm hoping to pack a light blanket for her to sleep on, because I am
> > kind of afraid the bus floor will be nasty.
> >
> > Also, I see that the bus station is about ten miles from the
> > convention hotel.  I'm debating how I want to get from here to there,
> > and would love any tips on their fixed-rout bus system, and/or
> pparatransit.
> >
> > Thanks, and see some of you in Orlando
> >
> > Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> > Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> > Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > m
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 31
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:47:48 -0700
> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> Message-ID: <00db01d1bf84$ab3b3ef0$01b1bcd0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Rox'E, if you sit where the wheelchair lift is, she will have plenty of
> room
> and so will you to stretch out.
>
> The trip sounds torturously long.
>
> Becky and Jake
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox'E Homstad
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 4:29 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
>
> It's about 14 hours.  I have a over the shoulder lead so I am physically
> connected to my dog at all times and can stop people from feeding/touching
> her.
> Thanks for mentioning the feeding thing though, I will look out for that.
>
> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>
> On Jun 5, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > How long is the trip, Rox. The bus floor isn't really the biggest
> > problem; it is other passengers slipping food to the dog. EEK!
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox'E
> > Homstad via NAGDU
> > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:59 PM
> > To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Rox'E Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Hound on the Hound
> >
> > Good afternoon y'all,
> >
> > I'm taking the "poor woman express" Greyhound, to convention this year.
> > I have not taken a long bus ride like this in years and never with
> Soleil.
> > I'm putting together lists of things I will need and am just wondering
> > if anyone has any advice for good things to make the long ride easier
> > for the dog?
> > We get on the bus at night, so most of it will be spent sleeping, I hope.
> > I'm hoping to pack a light blanket for her to sleep on, because I am
> > kind of afraid the bus floor will be nasty.
> >
> > Also, I see that the bus station is about ten miles from the
> > convention hotel.  I'm debating how I want to get from here to there,
> > and would love any tips on their fixed-rout bus system, and/or
> pparatransit.
> >
> > Thanks, and see some of you in Orlando
> >
> > Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches:
> > Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> > Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> >
> >
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> Message: 32
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:49:55 -0400
> From: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hello, (now fellow) guide dog users:
>
> First of all, thank you for all your wonderful feedback so far. I will
> definitely have more questions as I move along. For those of you who
> have contacted me off-list, I will write to you soon--things are just
> very busy here at the Seeing Eye! It is intense (and sometimes very
> stressful) to learn a totally new travel technique, especially when it
> is coupled with the usual dog maintenance and training. My mind is on
> perpetual overload right now...
>
> But I am sure you want to know about my dog! She is a little black lab
> named Demi. She can guide at an extremely fast gait (which I love),
> she is insanely intelligent, and she is quiet and not easily
> distracted while still extremely enthusiastic when it is time to work.
> She is also a total sweetheart. We are still working on coordination
> while guiding, but when we are able to find the perfect balance, it is
> the most wonderful feeling to basically fly down the street with her.
>
> I will keep y'all posted!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Rachel
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 33
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 19:21:16 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
> Message-ID: <001201d1bf89$57abd9c0$07038d40$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> Rachel, congratulations on your partnering with Demi, and many happy
> trails.
> I was thinking you were at The Seeing Eye. Keep up the good work and just
> be
> patient with yourself and all of the newness of it.
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:50 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
>
> Hello, (now fellow) guide dog users:
>
> First of all, thank you for all your wonderful feedback so far. I will
> definitely have more questions as I move along. For those of you who have
> contacted me off-list, I will write to you soon--things are just very busy
> here at the Seeing Eye! It is intense (and sometimes very
> stressful) to learn a totally new travel technique, especially when it is
> coupled with the usual dog maintenance and training. My mind is on
> perpetual
> overload right now...
>
> But I am sure you want to know about my dog! She is a little black lab
> named
> Demi. She can guide at an extremely fast gait (which I love), she is
> insanely intelligent, and she is quiet and not easily distracted while
> still
> extremely enthusiastic when it is time to work.
> She is also a total sweetheart. We are still working on coordination while
> guiding, but when we are able to find the perfect balance, it is the most
> wonderful feeling to basically fly down the street with her.
>
> I will keep y'all posted!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Rachel
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 34
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 00:39:13 -0400
> From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
> Message-ID:
>         <
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> You will love having a dog! I remember when I got my  poodle named
> Motley when I went to Pilot Dogs a couple years ago!
>
> I loved flying down nature trails with him and such!
>
> Keep us posted,
>
> Chantel.
>
> On 6/5/16, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Rachel, congratulations on your partnering with Demi, and many happy
> > trails.
> > I was thinking you were at The Seeing Eye. Keep up the good work and just
> > be
> > patient with yourself and all of the newness of it.
> > Cindy Lou Ray
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider
> > via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:50 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Rachel Grider <rachel.grider at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
> >
> > Hello, (now fellow) guide dog users:
> >
> > First of all, thank you for all your wonderful feedback so far. I will
> > definitely have more questions as I move along. For those of you who have
> > contacted me off-list, I will write to you soon--things are just very
> busy
> > here at the Seeing Eye! It is intense (and sometimes very
> > stressful) to learn a totally new travel technique, especially when it is
> > coupled with the usual dog maintenance and training. My mind is on
> > perpetual
> > overload right now...
> >
> > But I am sure you want to know about my dog! She is a little black lab
> > named
> > Demi. She can guide at an extremely fast gait (which I love), she is
> > insanely intelligent, and she is quiet and not easily distracted while
> > still
> > extremely enthusiastic when it is time to work.
> > She is also a total sweetheart. We are still working on coordination
> while
> > guiding, but when we are able to find the perfect balance, it is the most
> > wonderful feeling to basically fly down the street with her.
> >
> > I will keep y'all posted!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 35
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:26:53 +0200
> From: M?ria Orov??kov? <maria.orovcikova at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>         <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
> Message-ID: <122c0a76-fcef-53ef-72a9-7448bc7270f8 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Hello Rachel,
> this is Maria from Slovakia.
> Congratulations on your new dog. I hope you will have many great times
> and adventures together.
> I also have a black lab named Demi. :-)
> Wish you good luck.
> Maria from Slovakia and guide dog Demi
> On 6. 6. 2016 1:49, Rachel Grider via NAGDU wrote:
> > Hello, (now fellow) guide dog users:
> >
> > First of all, thank you for all your wonderful feedback so far. I will
> > definitely have more questions as I move along. For those of you who
> > have contacted me off-list, I will write to you soon--things are just
> > very busy here at the Seeing Eye! It is intense (and sometimes very
> > stressful) to learn a totally new travel technique, especially when it
> > is coupled with the usual dog maintenance and training. My mind is on
> > perpetual overload right now...
> >
> > But I am sure you want to know about my dog! She is a little black lab
> > named Demi. She can guide at an extremely fast gait (which I love),
> > she is insanely intelligent, and she is quiet and not easily
> > distracted while still extremely enthusiastic when it is time to work.
> > She is also a total sweetheart. We are still working on coordination
> > while guiding, but when we are able to find the perfect balance, it is
> > the most wonderful feeling to basically fly down the street with her.
> >
> > I will keep y'all posted!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 36
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 06:25:24 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>         Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
> Message-ID: <003a01d1bfe6$1f03c8a0$5d0b59e0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-2"
>
> Maria, what a neat coincidence that you have a guide dog with the same name
> as Rachel's, and the dog is even the same breed. It would be fun if the two
> of you could meet one day.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of M?ria
> Orovc?kov?
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:27 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: M?ria Orov??kov? <maria.orovcikova at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] My New Guide Dog!
>
> Hello Rachel,
> this is Maria from Slovakia.
> Congratulations on your new dog. I hope you will have many great times and
> adventures together.
> I also have a black lab named Demi. :-)
> Wish you good luck.
> Maria from Slovakia and guide dog Demi
> On 6. 6. 2016 1:49, Rachel Grider via NAGDU wrote:
> > Hello, (now fellow) guide dog users:
> >
> > First of all, thank you for all your wonderful feedback so far. I will
> > definitely have more questions as I move along. For those of you who
> > have contacted me off-list, I will write to you soon--things are just
> > very busy here at the Seeing Eye! It is intense (and sometimes very
> > stressful) to learn a totally new travel technique, especially when it
> > is coupled with the usual dog maintenance and training. My mind is on
> > perpetual overload right now...
> >
> > But I am sure you want to know about my dog! She is a little black lab
> > named Demi. She can guide at an extremely fast gait (which I love),
> > she is insanely intelligent, and she is quiet and not easily
> > distracted while still extremely enthusiastic when it is time to work.
> > She is also a total sweetheart. We are still working on coordination
> > while guiding, but when we are able to find the perfect balance, it is
> > the most wonderful feeling to basically fly down the street with her.
> >
> > I will keep y'all posted!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NAGDU mailing list
> > NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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