[NAGDU] Dispute resolution

[David]

That's not what I was saying at all, Marion.  I meant that I, as an 
individual, would not sue a school. I think the balance, without 
organizational backing, would be skewed against me.  I definitely think 
that with the backing of an advocacy group such as NAGDU, the balance 
would be much more fair and allow the issues to be heard.

A much more sustainable and reasonable approach is for NAGDU to propose, 
maintain, and advocate a full ownership position.  I am offended by the 
fuzzy concepts that schools take regarding ownership, due process, and 
school rights of intervention.

My later one liner was sent to correct a grammatical error that I made 
in a prior post.

David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL

On 5/11/2016 1:27 PM, NAGDU President via NAGDU wrote:
> David,
>
> 	NAGDU is currently assisting a guide dog user whose dog was removed
> without cause in spite of the fact that she has a written ownership
> agreement. She has attempted to resolve this issue with the program and they
> have been nonresponsive. She has given NAGDU consent for us to speak to them
> and for them to release any information they have and they are refusing to
> speak to us. Given the ownership issue, the illegal theft of her dog, their
> unwillingness to speak to either she or us, do you propose we not pursue
> litigation against the training program because they are so "venerable"? How
> venerable is a company that breaches contracts, commits larceny, and then
> believes they are immune from questioning?
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:39 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: David
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dispute resolution
>
> Well, I wouldn't be comfortable suing a guide dog school. Arguing due
> process rights with a venerable non-profit IMHO would not be a productive
> use of money or time. 'Better that these rights be agreed upon before there
> is a dispute.  A recommendation favoring due process procedures, if any, and
> full ownership from a venerable advocacy group might help eliminate some of
> the ambiguity that schools seem to maintain in their contracts and policies.
> Also, in  my opinion, handlers, schools, and regulators would be better
> served relying upon local civil remedies than fuzzy ownership ideas.  If
> there is a perception that a handler's treatment is a problem, then the
> handler should maintain his or her due process rights that accompany his or
> her full ownership of the dog under local law.
>
> David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
>
> On 5/11/2016 11:46 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU wrote:
>> 				We wouldn't??
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:07 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: David <david at bakerinet.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Dispute resolution
>>
>> ... none of us would want to sue,
>>
>> David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
>>
>> On 5/11/2016 9:54 AM, David via NAGDU wrote:
>>> cacy group such as NAGDU.
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