[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Tue Nov 15 20:11:59 UTC 2016


How is your DH feeling about your decision? I hope it has not created any
kind of issues for you, and you don't have to respond.
Cindy


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Hello, everyone.

Thank you for the suggesions. I feel like all of you, uncomfortable and just
not right to leave her outside in a strange yard, or home that many hours by
herself. I have never done that, and never will. My decision is not to go,
and I hope she understands. I totally respect anyone that does not like dogs
in their homes. But, I have to do what is best for Becky. She is my main
concern. Have a happy thanksgiving, everyone.

Elise and the Beckster

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Today's Topics:

   1. FW: [Flagdu] Helpng a new guide dog user division in our
      country (NAGDU President)
   2. Thanksgiving (Elise Berkley)
   3. Re: Thanksgiving (Becky Frankeberger)
   4. Re: Thanksgiving (Tami Jarvis)
   5. Re: Thanksgiving (David)
   6. Re: Thanksgiving (Vivianna)
   7. Re: Thanksgiving (Howard J. Levine)
   8. Re: Thanksgiving (Marianne Denning)
   9. Re: Thanksgiving (Cindy Ray)
  10. Re: Thanksgiving (d m gina)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 10:56:10 -0500
From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
        <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [NAGDU] FW: [Flagdu] Helpng a new guide dog user division in
        our country
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Dear All,

        I am forwarding the below message from my wife and Vice President of
the Florida Association of Guide Dog Users. Please consider supporting the
Texas Associagtion of Guide Dog Users by purchasing some of their products
as holiday gifts!

Fraternally yours,

Marion Gwizdala, President
National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
the Blind
(813) 626-2789
President at NAGDU.ORG


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Hello FLAGDU and interested list serv members,


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Looking forward to seeing you all at our state convention and FLAGDU
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 02:59:25 +0000
From: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
To: National Association for Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.

Elise and Becky


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 19:10:26 -0800
From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
        Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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Bring her crate. Negotiate with her that your pup will stay in a portable
crate. Or maybe she thinks Becky will jump all over her house and it is just
educating her that your dog will be a perfect lady at her home.

So just other ideas to hopefully help.

The human Becky, giggle.
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NAGDU
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 6:59 PM
To: National Association for Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
Subject: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving

Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.

Elise and Becky
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 19:18:07 -0800
From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
        <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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Elise,

I don't think you're making a mountain out of a molehill at all. If it were
me, I would not go. I would see it as disrespect in general, and an
insistence that I put my guide dog in a strange yard for that long when the
dog is not used to being outside at all is too risky for the dog. My dogs
spend a lot of time outside, but even so I wouldn't want to bring my guide
someplace and leave him out alone for hours in a strange yard.
You might be able to explain the notion of "guide dog" to your
sister-in-law, but if she insists on leaving the dog outdoors, then I think
you should go with your gut and not go.

hth,

Tami

On 11/14/2016 06:59 PM, Elise Berkley via NAGDU wrote:
> Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.
>
> Elise and Becky
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:29:15 -0500
From: David <david at bakerinet.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
        <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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I'd say, "You know, we really we'd really like to come, but Becky is an
inside dog.  I can't leave her outside by herself.  On top of that I would
feel very uncomfortable without her by my side. Thank you so much for
inviting us.  Maybe we can get together when it is warmer and we can all be
outside.  Have a Happy Thanksgiving."

David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL

On 11/14/2016 9:59 PM, Elise Berkley via NAGDU wrote:
> Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.
>
> Elise and Becky
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 21:46:52 -0600
From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,        the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
        <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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I would explain that my dog will be in harness and lying quietly at my side
the entire time.  if this doesn?t work then, you could either not go at all
or, what about going but staying for a shorter period of time.
unfortunately, i think that maybe she thinks you will let your dog run all
over her home.  personally, i don?t allow loose dogs in my home either.
but, no, i would not put my guide outside in any back yard for 8 hours.

Take care;
Vivianna

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Elise Berkley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.
>
> Elise and Becky
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:56:32 -0500
From: "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
        Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "'Elise Berkley'" <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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There is no way that I would leave my guide dog out side by him self. I
don't think that any guide dog school would alow that and that could be
grounds for school to take back your guide dog. Could you leave with your
self if any thing happen to your guide dog. Some one could steal your dog. I
would stand my ground with your sister in law.

-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley via
NAGDU
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 9:59 PM
To: National Association for Guide Dog Users
Cc: Elise Berkley
Subject: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving

Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.

Elise and Becky
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 23:06:51 -0500
From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
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Cc: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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I don't think it is terrible to leave your dog outside but I would not go.
I would just let her know you appreciate the invitation but you will have to
decline. The ADA does not cover private homes and I understand people don't
want dogs in their homes for any number of reasons. Good luck.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:59 PM, Elise Berkley via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health 
> insurance for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know 
> what to do. My husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's 
> house. Where they live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we 
> go down that way, we end up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my 
> sister-in-law. She said it was alright for me to bring Becky, but she 
> does not like dogs in the house. So, I would have to put Becky outside 
> while we were in the house. Becky is not an outside dog. And, I would 
> feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life, outside while I was 
> sitting in the house with family. I really do not know what to do. 
> Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of a
molehill? Please, I need help with this.
>
> Elise and Becky
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 22:15:34 -0600
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
        Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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Talk to her about your leaving the dog on her leash. She may shed some, but
she won't do anything she shouldn't, or that your sister-in-law believes she
would do. My daughter is beginning to be like that, too, and if I get
another dog, I will have to explain to her that I am using the dog and when
I come to visit her the dog will come with me. However, I will leave it on
leash the entire time if this will help.

I wouldn't want to go either under the circumstances.

Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley via
NAGDU
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 8:59 PM
To: National Association for Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
Subject: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving

Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health insurance
for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know what to do. My
husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's house. Where they
live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we go down that way, we end
up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my sister-in-law. She said it was
alright for me to bring Becky, but she does not like dogs in the house. So,
I would have to put Becky outside while we were in the house. Becky is not
an outside dog. And, I would feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life,
outside while I was sitting in the house with family. I really do not know
what to do. Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of
a molehill? Please, I need help with this.

Elise and Becky
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 00:07:16 -0500
From: d m gina <dmgina at sero.email>
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Thanksgiving
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I wouldn't go,
Your dog comes first.
You don't know what the weather will be like.
Can you fix something at home to feel special?
Having a small dinner something like that?

Original message:
> Hello, everyone. Thank you for the suggestions regarding health 
> insurance for Becky. I have another question and I really do not know 
> what to do. My husband and I were invited for Thanksgiving at family's 
> house. Where they live is a distance from our house. Usually, when we 
> go down that way, we end up staying 7 to 8 hours. I talked to my 
> sister-in-law. She said it was alright for me to bring Becky, but she 
> does not like dogs in the house. So, I would have to put Becky outside 
> while we were in the house. Becky is not an outside dog. And, I would 
> feel like crap with my dog, the loveof my life, outside while I was 
> sitting in the house with family. I really do not know what to do. 
> Now, I really do not want to go.  Am I making a mountain out of a
molehill?
> Please, I need help with this.

> Elise and Becky
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