[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 144, Issue 35
Mardi Hadfield
wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com
Sun Apr 2 11:37:21 UTC 2017
Hi Vivianna, Mardi here. I started my Dutch Shepherd at 9 weeks and She is
now a year and a half and training is going great. At 5 months, and those
pups already used to loud noises is a very good thing. 5 month is a good
age to start with. Better attention span. You can bond pretty quickly with
a dog that age and then you will have and eager to learn dog. This has been
my experience any way. I have never trained a Dobie but a dutch shepherd is
a very active dog and I survived, Sedona as a very young pup. Most of her
real learning took place between 5 to 10 months of age. I had a medical
set back so I was unable to work Sedona for about 3 months, but she picked
up where we left off pretty quickly and she has been doing great ever
since. I think you have a good chance to train a good guide at that age.
Good luck. Mardi and Shaman,retired and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT.
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> 3. Re: Training my own...again. (S L Johnson)
> 4. Re: Training my own...again. (Cindy Ray)
> 5. Re: Training my own...again. (Vivianna)
> 6. Re: Training my own...again. (Vivianna)
> 7. Re: Training my own...again. (Cindy Ray)
> 8. Re: Training my own...again. (Buddy Brannan)
> 9. looking for an apartment for the first time (Jameyanne Fuller)
> 10. Re: looking for an apartment for the first time (Buddy Brannan)
> 11. Re: looking for an apartment for the first time
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> 12. Re: Training my own...again. (Vivianna)
> 13. Re: Training my own...again. (Buddy Brannan)
> 14. Re: looking for an apartment for the first time (Danielle Ledet)
> 15. Re: 2017 "Hup-Up" Seminar Update and Thanks (Danielle Ledet)
> 16. Re: Training my own...again. (Vivianna)
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> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 18:33:56 -0500
> From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
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> Hello all.
> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc. of
> training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog but,
> it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed. so,
> tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love to
> hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some things
> to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the basics
> and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and loud
> tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work with me
> and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a couple
> months the pup does not work out.
> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> thanks for any input on this matter.
>
> Vivianna
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:42:43 -0600
> From: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
> Message-ID: <EEEB473E-76C8-45FD-8C6B-2B3DC6B81299 at gmail.com>
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> Hi! I have never trained my own guy dog but I do have a resource for you
> if you haven't heard of it. There is a book on Kindle called Kerge to dare:
> a blind woman is quest to train her own guy dog. It's a beautiful read for
> anybody! But if you were trying to train you and guy dog, I think it would
> be a great and helpful book. Good luck to you!
>
> Check out my podcast found at:abilitystories.podbean.com and on iTunes
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all.
> > Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc. of
> training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog but,
> it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed. so,
> tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love to
> hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some things
> to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the basics
> and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and loud
> tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work with me
> and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a couple
> months the pup does not work out.
> > even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> > i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> > thanks for any input on this matter.
> >
> > Vivianna
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:55:28 -0400
> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
> Message-ID: <777C2FE891084C808DFADDC27E53BA71 at SLJohnson>
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> Vivianna:
>
> Did you contact Pilot Dogs? They train dobermans.
>
> Sandra Johnson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivianna via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Vivianna
> Subject: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
>
> Hello all.
> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc. of
> training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog but,
> it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed. so,
> tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. Iâ?Td love
> to
> hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some things
> to
> help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the basics and
> these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and loud
> tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work with me
> and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a couple
> months the pup does not work out.
> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into
> a guide. lol.
> i really, really didnâ?Tt want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that itâ?Ts very rare that they
> will get a returned dog and, if they do, itâ?Ts because there was some
> problem that i most likely wonâ?Tt want or need to take on.
> thanks for any input on this matter.
>
> Vivianna
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:09:56 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
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> Courage to Dare is authored by our own Julie Johnson. I would contact her
> and others who are on this list and who have trained their own dogs. There
> are quite a few. Rox has, Buddy has, Julie, Marty Hatfield, and I think I
> am spelling her wrong. Anyway, there is plenty of resource here, and they
> can point you to more.
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tara Wiseman
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:43 PM
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> Cc: Tara Wiseman <thflute at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
>
> Hi! I have never trained my own guy dog but I do have a resource for you
> if you haven't heard of it. There is a book on Kindle called Kerge to dare:
> a blind woman is quest to train her own guy dog. It's a beautiful read for
> anybody! But if you were trying to train you and guy dog, I think it would
> be a great and helpful book. Good luck to you!
>
> Check out my podcast found at:abilitystories.podbean.com and on iTunes
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all.
> > Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc. of
> training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog but,
> it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed. so,
> tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love to
> hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some things
> to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the basics
> and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and loud
> tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work with me
> and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a couple
> months the pup does not work out.
> > even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> > i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> > thanks for any input on this matter.
> >
> > Vivianna
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:29:21 -0500
> From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
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> Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
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> Hi Tara,
> I am definitely not new at training my own guides as, i have trained 3 of
> my previous dogs successfully.
> I am just seeking suggestions on choosing such a young dog. Maybe i am
> worrying more than i should be at this stage. Smiles.
> hey, if they can keep playing while there are folks shooting at targets
> then they should be fine with loud traffic. heh.
>
> Take care;
> Vivianna
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Tara Wiseman via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi! I have never trained my own guy dog but I do have a resource for you
> if you haven't heard of it. There is a book on Kindle called Kerge to dare:
> a blind woman is quest to train her own guy dog. It's a beautiful read for
> anybody! But if you were trying to train you and guy dog, I think it would
> be a great and helpful book. Good luck to you!
> >
> > Check out my podcast found at:abilitystories.podbean.com and on iTunes
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all.
> >> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc.
> of training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog
> but, it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed.
> so, tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love
> to hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some
> things to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the
> basics and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and
> loud tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work
> with me and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a
> couple months the pup does not work out.
> >> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> >> i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> >> thanks for any input on this matter.
> >>
> >> Vivianna
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:31:43 -0500
> From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
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> Hi Sandra,
> yes, i have been on their waiting list since the beginning of november and
> just a couple days ago i was told that they have no dobies in training and
> do not know when they will even be getting more donated.
>
> Vivianna
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:55 PM, S L Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Vivianna:
> >
> > Did you contact Pilot Dogs? They train dobermans.
> >
> > Sandra Johnson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vivianna via NAGDU
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:33 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Cc: Vivianna
> > Subject: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
> >
> > Hello all.
> > Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc. of
> > training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog
> but,
> > it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed.
> so,
> > tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I??Td
> love to
> > hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some
> things to
> > help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the basics and
> > these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and loud
> > tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work with
> me
> > and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a couple
> > months the pup does not work out.
> > even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> > sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit
> patiently
> > by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into
> > a guide. lol.
> > i really, really didn??Tt want to start with such a young dog but, the
> > breeders that i have talked to have said that it??Ts very rare that they
> > will get a returned dog and, if they do, it??Ts because there was some
> > problem that i most likely won??Tt want or need to take on.
> > thanks for any input on this matter.
> >
> > Vivianna
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:32:43 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
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> Oh, I didn't realize you had trained dogs before. Well, lots of good luck
> with it anyway.
> But why did you go back to using a program then? Not important if you
> don't want to answer.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:29 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
>
> Hi Tara,
> I am definitely not new at training my own guides as, i have trained 3 of
> my previous dogs successfully.
> I am just seeking suggestions on choosing such a young dog. Maybe i am
> worrying more than i should be at this stage. Smiles.
> hey, if they can keep playing while there are folks shooting at targets
> then they should be fine with loud traffic. heh.
>
> Take care;
> Vivianna
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:42 PM, Tara Wiseman via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi! I have never trained my own guy dog but I do have a resource for you
> if you haven't heard of it. There is a book on Kindle called Kerge to dare:
> a blind woman is quest to train her own guy dog. It's a beautiful read for
> anybody! But if you were trying to train you and guy dog, I think it would
> be a great and helpful book. Good luck to you!
> >
> > Check out my podcast found at:abilitystories.podbean.com and on iTunes
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all.
> >> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc.
> of training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog
> but, it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed.
> so, tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love
> to hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some
> things to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the
> basics and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and
> loud tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work
> with me and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a
> couple months the pup does not work out.
> >> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> >> i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> >> thanks for any input on this matter.
> >>
> >> Vivianna
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:56:57 -0400
> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
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> Heh...I started mine even younger, as I got her at just 8 weeks old. Can't
> tell you what to look for, because I got a fantstic dog and my breeder
> picked very well. You know what kinds of personality characteristics you
> want from a grown up dog. Obviously you won't see all of that in a pup, but
> I know you'll see the potential. Certainly lack of noise shyness is a good
> trait, so is a steady reaction to sudden movements or startling things.
> Have a look at something like the VOlhard Puppy Aptitude Test.
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all.
> > Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc. of
> training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog but,
> it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed. so,
> tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love to
> hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some things
> to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the basics
> and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and loud
> tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work with me
> and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a couple
> months the pup does not work out.
> > even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> > i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> > thanks for any input on this matter.
> >
> > Vivianna
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NAGDU mailing list
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> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:40:56 -0400
> From: "Jameyanne Fuller" <jameyanne at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [NAGDU] looking for an apartment for the first time
> Message-ID: <012201d2a9bf$d8431b90$88c952b0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm planning to move off campus with some friends next year. We're starting
> to look for apartments next weekend. I've never rented an apartment in the
> United States before, and I'm not entirely clear how the Fair Housing Act
> works for guide dogs. If anyone has any advice or experience to share, I
> would really appreciate it.
>
> Best,
>
> Jameyanne and Mopsy
>
> jameyanne at gmail.com <mailto:jameyanne at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:55:04 -0400
> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] looking for an apartment for the first time
> Message-ID: <532FC33C-01D4-47DA-9B8E-B6C490F0BE72 at brannan.name>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> The biggest rule is that the rules don't apply if the landlord lives on
> the property *and* has fewer than five units to rent. Otherwise, they have
> to accommodate your guide dog. Aleeha is dealing with this right now, but
> my understanding is they can only ask for written verification that your
> dog is a service dog if it isn't obvious. Anyway, you can't be denied
> housing on the basis of your guide dog except for the above exception.
> Also, you can't be charged any sort of pet deposit, althugh, of course, you
> are responsible for any damage your dog does while you're renting. I think
> those are the high points.
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:40 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via NAGDU <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm planning to move off campus with some friends next year. We're
> starting
> > to look for apartments next weekend. I've never rented an apartment in
> the
> > United States before, and I'm not entirely clear how the Fair Housing Act
> > works for guide dogs. If anyone has any advice or experience to share, I
> > would really appreciate it.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jameyanne and Mopsy
> >
> > jameyanne at gmail.com <mailto:jameyanne at gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NAGDU mailing list
> > NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NAGDU:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/buddy%40brannan.name
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:04:44 -0500
> From: Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU <shardy at nfbtx.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] looking for an apartment for the first time
> Message-ID: <2496d83b-1f0d-5371-dd88-66612512d355 at nfbtx.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Hello there,
>
> How exciting to be getting your first apartment. Under the Fair Housing
> Act, (FHA), guide dogs are considered service dogs. As a guide dog user,
> you are not required to pay any type of pet deposit. However, the
> landlord can hold you responsible for any property damages caused by
> your dog. I'm happy to report that I've never had a problem when renting
> apartments as a guide dog handler. Good luck and keep us posted. Warm
> regards. Stacie and Cash. .
>
> Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
> President: NFB of Texas Houston Chapter
> Voice and Text: (346) 704-0190 or (832) 779-7477
>
> "A question never asked is an answer never known"
> "Live the life you want!"
>
> On 3/30/2017 8:40 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via NAGDU wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm planning to move off campus with some friends next year. We're
> starting
> > to look for apartments next weekend. I've never rented an apartment in
> the
> > United States before, and I'm not entirely clear how the Fair Housing Act
> > works for guide dogs. If anyone has any advice or experience to share, I
> > would really appreciate it.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jameyanne and Mopsy
> >
> > jameyanne at gmail.com <mailto:jameyanne at gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NAGDU mailing list
> > NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NAGDU:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/shardy%40nfbtx.org
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:19:00 -0500
> From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
> Message-ID: <43876DED-2553-4605-81DC-9B8FC3C343E6 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Buddy,
> o.o wow! 8 weeks? how did you manage the housetraining with such a young
> pup?
> at least at 5 months i can do all that by keeping it on leash for a couple
> weeks.
> i don?t think i can deal with pee all over the floor. lol.
> and, that?s a great idea about sudden movements.
>
> Take care;
> Vivianna
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Heh...I started mine even younger, as I got her at just 8 weeks old.
> Can't tell you what to look for, because I got a fantstic dog and my
> breeder picked very well. You know what kinds of personality
> characteristics you want from a grown up dog. Obviously you won't see all
> of that in a pup, but I know you'll see the potential. Certainly lack of
> noise shyness is a good trait, so is a steady reaction to sudden movements
> or startling things. Have a look at something like the VOlhard Puppy
> Aptitude Test.
> >
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: 814-860-3194
> > Mobile: 814-431-0962
> > Email: buddy at brannan.name
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all.
> >> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc.
> of training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog
> but, it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed.
> so, tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love
> to hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some
> things to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the
> basics and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and
> loud tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work
> with me and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a
> couple months the pup does not work out.
> >> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> >> i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> >> thanks for any input on this matter.
> >>
> >> Vivianna
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NAGDU mailing list
> >> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NAGDU:
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/buddy%40brannan.name
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NAGDU mailing list
> > NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:34:07 -0400
> From: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
> Message-ID: <068ABDD2-CAD7-4522-94EF-2336E83081D4 at brannan.name>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> How'd we manage? We went outside. A lot. We had some accidents. We made
> liberal use of crates and leashes. We chewed up several leashes. We cleaned
> up a fair amount of pee. Sunny & Honey enzymatic cleaner and I become good
> friends. And, yeah, we had the usual puppy issues, chewed slipper insoles,
> "OMG Hildegard, where'd you find *that*?" and all the rest, but I didn't
> run into much I wasn't expecting. Sure, it wasn't what I expected on one
> hand, but it was on the other, which makes absolutely no sense. Good thing
> puppies are mostly resilient. I think that the folks who have met the Beast
> would agree with me that she came out all right in spite of me.
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:19 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Buddy,
> > o.o wow! 8 weeks? how did you manage the housetraining with such a
> young pup?
> > at least at 5 months i can do all that by keeping it on leash for a
> couple weeks.
> > i don?t think i can deal with pee all over the floor. lol.
> > and, that?s a great idea about sudden movements.
> >
> > Take care;
> > Vivianna
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Heh...I started mine even younger, as I got her at just 8 weeks old.
> Can't tell you what to look for, because I got a fantstic dog and my
> breeder picked very well. You know what kinds of personality
> characteristics you want from a grown up dog. Obviously you won't see all
> of that in a pup, but I know you'll see the potential. Certainly lack of
> noise shyness is a good trait, so is a steady reaction to sudden movements
> or startling things. Have a look at something like the VOlhard Puppy
> Aptitude Test.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> >> Phone: 814-860-3194
> >> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> >> Email: buddy at brannan.name
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all.
> >>> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc.
> of training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog
> but, it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed.
> so, tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love
> to hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some
> things to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the
> basics and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and
> loud tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work
> with me and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a
> couple months the pup does not work out.
> >>> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> >>> i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> >>> thanks for any input on this matter.
> >>>
> >>> Vivianna
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> NAGDU mailing list
> >>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> NAGDU:
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/
> buddy%40brannan.name
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:28:10 -0600
> From: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] looking for an apartment for the first time
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> And neither have I and do not wish to suddenly have a problem while
> renting with a guide dog! Even after I get one. They summed it up for
> you.
>
> On 3/30/17, Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > How exciting to be getting your first apartment. Under the Fair Housing
> > Act, (FHA), guide dogs are considered service dogs. As a guide dog user,
> > you are not required to pay any type of pet deposit. However, the
> > landlord can hold you responsible for any property damages caused by
> > your dog. I'm happy to report that I've never had a problem when renting
> > apartments as a guide dog handler. Good luck and keep us posted. Warm
> > regards. Stacie and Cash. .
> >
> > Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
> > President: NFB of Texas Houston Chapter
> > Voice and Text: (346) 704-0190 or (832) 779-7477
> >
> > "A question never asked is an answer never known"
> > "Live the life you want!"
> >
> > On 3/30/2017 8:40 PM, Jameyanne Fuller via NAGDU wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I'm planning to move off campus with some friends next year. We're
> >> starting
> >> to look for apartments next weekend. I've never rented an apartment in
> >> the
> >> United States before, and I'm not entirely clear how the Fair Housing
> Act
> >> works for guide dogs. If anyone has any advice or experience to share, I
> >> would really appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jameyanne and Mopsy
> >>
> >> jameyanne at gmail.com <mailto:jameyanne at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NAGDU mailing list
> >> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >> NAGDU:
> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/shardy%40nfbtx.org
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > NAGDU:
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/
> singingmywayin%40gmail.com
> >
>
>
> --
> How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
> tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
> have been all of these.
> George Washington Carver
> Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 23:04:34 -0600
> From: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] 2017 "Hup-Up" Seminar Update and Thanks
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> DO I have to join your page?
>
> On 3/26/17, james boehm via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Greetings! The Tennessee Association of Guide Dog Users will hold their
> 4th
> > annual ?Hup-Up? Seminar March 31, 2017, in Memphis Tennessee! If you are
> in
> > the area, we would like to warmly invite you to come experience a warm,
> > positive, educational experience where the NFB philosophy of love, unity,
> > and respect for everyone are demonstrated! We are so honored to have The
> > Seeing Eye and Guide Dogs for the Blind both exhibit at our convention
> and
> > participate in our seminar! We have a total of now 8 guide dog schools
> > participating in our seminar for 2017!!!!! TAGDU is committed to building
> > relationships with all guide dog schools, allowing potential guide dog
> users
> > to be educated and decide for themselves which school reflects his or her
> > needs and values! TAGDU is also dedicated to ensuring a strong connection
> > with all of our members as we strive to spread the NFB philosophy and
> > support guide dog users, not only in our state, but around the nation!
> Our
> > seminar will include our two school guest speakers, advocacy training by
> > participating in an interactive workshop, working with children as a
> guide
> > dog user, grooming tips and tricks from professional groomers, discussing
> > the steps to filing/reporting a claim on the Uber/Lyft app, and many door
> > prizes provided by the participating schools, local stores, and
> supporters.
> > TAGDU will also release an incredible resource for our members via a
> special
> > Dropbox or Google Drive link. Members will have access to a wealth of
> > information, such as how to handle access denials in various situations,
> > specifics and guidance on our state and ADA laws, and tools to educate
> the
> > community, all in one location! We would like to thank the schools, The
> > Seeing Eye, Southeastern, Leader Dog Guide Dogs for the Blind, Guiding
> Eyes
> > for the Blind, Guide Dog Foundation, The Mira Foundation, Fidelco, pet
> > stores, such as Pets Mart and Petco, Southside Animal Hospital, and
> IAADP,
> > who annually support our initiative! Also Blind Square GPS is
> collaborating
> > with us for the third year in a row to provide free use of their GPS app
> for
> > attendees of our seminar and state convention! This is a record year for
> us,
> > having 8 guide dog schools supporting and participating in our seminar!
> We
> > received a lot of feedback from members who listened to our stream last
> > year! They found our seminar full of energy, sharing of ideas with
> respect,
> > dignity, interactive, and informative discussions! If you cannot attend
> in
> > person! No worries!Listen to our seminar live on our Facebook page from
> > 7-9pm Central.If you miss the seminar-no worries! We will make the
> recording
> > available to all members because transparency and collaboration is of the
> > utmost importance to our organization. TAGDU is a proud division of
> the
> > Tennessee NFB affiliate and the National Federation of the Blind!
> > Donate to TAGDU by sending donations via PayPal
> > to:president.tagdu at nfb-tn.org <mailto:president.tagdu at nfb-tn.org>
> > Join our Facebook page here at: https://www.facebook.com/tnguidedogs/
> > <https://www.facebook.com/tnguidedogs/>
> >
> > P.S.- I would like to personally thank all of you who supported me
> during my
> > HOlman Prize application. Thanks to your support, I have made it to the
> > semi-finals. The ability to bring the NFB philosophy and free mobility
> > canes as well as training to people who are blind around the world is
> > closer to reality! The You Cane Give Initiative would not be where it is
> at
> > without you and your support. Thank you!!!!!
> > James Alan Boehm
> > Peabody College of Vanderbilt University
> > Human Developmental Counseling/Clinical Counseling: M. ED.
> >
> > Contact Information:
> > Phone: 901-483-1515
> > Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com
> > Graduate Email: James.A.Boehm at Vanderbilt.edu
> > NFB Email: secretary at nfb-tn.org
> > Kustom Cane: kustomcane at gmail.com
> >
> > -Audrey Hepburn: "Nothing is impossible, the word itself says ?I?m
> > Possible'"
> > Live the life you want!
> >
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> >
>
>
> --
> How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
> tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
> have been all of these.
> George Washington Carver
> Email: singingmywayin at gmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:41:55 -0500
> From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Training my own...again.
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> sigh. the things i have in my near future. sometimes that year long wait
> for a school dog looks not so bad. lol.
> i do truly think, however, in my breed specific case, that i will end up
> better off in the end owner training.
>
> Take care;
> Vivianna
>
> > On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > How'd we manage? We went outside. A lot. We had some accidents. We made
> liberal use of crates and leashes. We chewed up several leashes. We cleaned
> up a fair amount of pee. Sunny & Honey enzymatic cleaner and I become good
> friends. And, yeah, we had the usual puppy issues, chewed slipper insoles,
> "OMG Hildegard, where'd you find *that*?" and all the rest, but I didn't
> run into much I wasn't expecting. Sure, it wasn't what I expected on one
> hand, but it was on the other, which makes absolutely no sense. Good thing
> puppies are mostly resilient. I think that the folks who have met the Beast
> would agree with me that she came out all right in spite of me.
> >
> > --
> > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> > Phone: 814-860-3194
> > Mobile: 814-431-0962
> > Email: buddy at brannan.name
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 30, 2017, at 10:19 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Buddy,
> >> o.o wow! 8 weeks? how did you manage the housetraining with such a
> young pup?
> >> at least at 5 months i can do all that by keeping it on leash for a
> couple weeks.
> >> i don?t think i can deal with pee all over the floor. lol.
> >> and, that?s a great idea about sudden movements.
> >>
> >> Take care;
> >> Vivianna
> >>
> >>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Buddy Brannan via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Heh...I started mine even younger, as I got her at just 8 weeks old.
> Can't tell you what to look for, because I got a fantstic dog and my
> breeder picked very well. You know what kinds of personality
> characteristics you want from a grown up dog. Obviously you won't see all
> of that in a pup, but I know you'll see the potential. Certainly lack of
> noise shyness is a good trait, so is a steady reaction to sudden movements
> or startling things. Have a look at something like the VOlhard Puppy
> Aptitude Test.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> >>> Phone: 814-860-3194
> >>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> >>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all.
> >>>> Well, it looks like i will be taking on the job, journey, task, etc.
> of training my next guide. I was hoping to go to a school and get a dog
> but, it looks like it will be a year minimum until i get my desired breed.
> so, tuesday, i am off to look at several 4-5 month old dobermans. I?d love
> to hear from those of you who have started from such a young dog some
> things to help me insure a suitable temperament. I am well aware of the
> basics and these dogs have been used to loud noises, including gunshots and
> loud tractors and other machinery. the breeder is very willing to work
> with me and is willing to exchange the pup if, after a couple weeks to a
> couple months the pup does not work out.
> >>>> even at 5 months a pup can learn basic obedience easily and begin the
> sidewalk work that will lead into guiding such as learning to sit patiently
> by my side at curbs, etc. i have all summer to whip this little bugger
> into a guide. lol.
> >>>> i really, really didn?t want to start with such a young dog but, the
> breeders that i have talked to have said that it?s very rare that they will
> get a returned dog and, if they do, it?s because there was some problem
> that i most likely won?t want or need to take on.
> >>>> thanks for any input on this matter.
> >>>>
> >>>> Vivianna
> >>>>
> >>>>
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