[NAGDU] training my own again
S L Johnson
SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
Wed Apr 5 20:05:03 UTC 2017
Hello:
My major concern would be the size and strength of these pups once they are
full grown. Is it really practical for a woman to think of handling a
hundred pound male Doberman? There comes a point when dogs are just too big
and strong to be suitable as guide dogs. You have to think of fitting them
into small cars, under seats on public transportation, under the table in
restaurants etc. All this in addition to trying to train and control such a
large dog. Some of you might think the size isn't an issue but we all know
how the transportation industry is constantly making our space smaller and
smaller all the time. If you have noticed, the guide dog schools have all
begun to put out much smaller dogs in the past ten to fifteen years. In my
forty years I have had a couple of large dogs and found them to be too
difficult to handle and not easy to fit in small places. All this being
said, the decision is certainly up to you. You would want to spend much
more time with the pups before having to make your final decision. It is a
good sign that they seemed to be able to remain calm when he shot the gun
and responded to your simple command to sit. Is this the only breeder or do
you have other options? Good luck with your decision.
Sandra
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From: Cindy Ray via NAGDU
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] training my own again
I vote for the no tail girl. She sounds really sweet, and you said she had a
calm temperament. Of course you havenâ?Tt been able to do a lot of other
testing on any of them. Still, I just really like the sound of her. This is
my uneducated, scientific opinion.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
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OK, well, hereâ?Ts the puppy story.
So, i went to see the puppies yesterday. These are european dobermans, and,
iâ?Tll tell you guys, these are some big dogs. they look very different
from the american doberman that i worked with for 10 years. the bone on
these guys is amazing, the muscle is heavy, the muzzle is shorter and much
wider, the head is broader, well, the entire dog is broader.
the breeder pulled out a gun and shot it right there and the pups didnâ?Tt
even look. heh. they were all running around in an open field and, when
they came to me they were very calm. no licking, biting my hands, jumping,
barking etc.
there were 2 boys but, i think that 1 will be to big. he will prob reach 29
or 30 inches and be 100 pounds easy. the other boy was tall but not as
heavy. he will prob reach 28 29 inches and 90 pounds or so.
there was3 girls, 1 the breeder thought would have to much drive. the one
that came to me right away, even before playing with the other pups was very
stout and heavily boned but will prob only be around 24 inches at the
shoulder, but, the vet screwed up her tail and, she has no tail at all. the
3rd girl did not come up to me until i was there a long time but, she was
calm when she did, she will prob be 24 26 inches and slightly longer body
than the no tail girl.
they all have very solid temperaments, no quivering, barking, etc. they
have been kennel raised and not in the home. the place was brand new, clean
and pretty fancy.
i did get to meet the parents and they were some big dogs. lol.
every one of the pups would sit and stay sitting when i asked them to with a
push on their butts.
but, iâ?Tll tell you, the paws on those boy pups were twice the size of my
88 pound GSD. lol.
itâ?Ts super hard to choose but, i tentatively chose the smaller boy. but,
i do like the no tail girl too. lol. she kept coming up to me instead of
playing with the other puppies. i know that they say not to let stuff like
that sway you and go by temperament but, itâ?Ts so hard to tell. lol.
Well, there you go. Any comments welcome.
Take care;
Vivianna
On Apr 2, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mardi Hadfield via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
Vivianna, When I house broke Sedona, I just took her out side to the same
place every time and waited until she went. I would then say good potty and
give her a treat. I gave her a chance to sniff the area but kept her in
that area. It did not take long for her to get the idea. I now just open
the door and let her out in my vast fenced yard and she heads to the back
yard to do her thing. I kept her crated when I could not watch her in the
house and she did occasionally pee in the crate if I did not get her out in
time. She will whine and bark to let me know she wants out. so it is up to
me to get her out in time. Hope this is helpful. Mardi and
Shaman,retired and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT. PS Shaman was 10 months
old when I rescued him from a shelter. He had no training whatsoever. I did
the same thing I did with Sedona when House breaking and he was house
broken in 3 weeks with no accidents. He learned every thing pretty fast.
He had not been socialized but he did learn that while he was being trained
as I worked in dog friendly places as well as people places, like shopping
malls.After he was attacked several times he became dog reactive and I did
work through it, but ended up using an electric collar to get him over his
reactivity. Nothing else had worked so I chose to use that method and It
only took 2 zaps and he no longer had a problem. I don't think the age that
I started his training had anything to do with his reactive problem . I
think it was just his personality, and the fact that he was socialized at a
later age ,and the E collar was the only thing that helped shape that part
of his personality.
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