[NAGDU] training my own again
Vivianna
irishana at gmail.com
Wed Apr 5 20:43:13 UTC 2017
Sandra,
yes, i think that the biggest boy would grow up to be to large for me. but, i currently am handling a 90 pound german shepherd with no problems so another 5 pounds won’t make any difference.
i really prefer a dog that is 25 inches or taller myself no matter what the weight is.
and, yes, i do know of folks who have little tiny guides. i know one woman who has an 18 inch tall 42 pound lab from seeing eye. and, another who has a 18 inch 42 pound lab from GDB.
i wouldn’t even consider such a small dog myself.
luckily the dobies tend to like to curl up.
they did have a retired breeder there who is 30 inches at the shoulder and, he is one big guy. no way would i want a dog that big. lol.
Vivianna
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 3:05 PM, S L Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> My major concern would be the size and strength of these pups once they are
> full grown. Is it really practical for a woman to think of handling a
> hundred pound male Doberman? There comes a point when dogs are just too big
> and strong to be suitable as guide dogs. You have to think of fitting them
> into small cars, under seats on public transportation, under the table in
> restaurants etc. All this in addition to trying to train and control such a
> large dog. Some of you might think the size isn't an issue but we all know
> how the transportation industry is constantly making our space smaller and
> smaller all the time. If you have noticed, the guide dog schools have all
> begun to put out much smaller dogs in the past ten to fifteen years. In my
> forty years I have had a couple of large dogs and found them to be too
> difficult to handle and not easy to fit in small places. All this being
> said, the decision is certainly up to you. You would want to spend much
> more time with the pups before having to make your final decision. It is a
> good sign that they seemed to be able to remain calm when he shot the gun
> and responded to your simple command to sit. Is this the only breeder or do
> you have other options? Good luck with your decision.
>
> Sandra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 11:12 AM
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> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] training my own again
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> I vote for the no tail girl. She sounds really sweet, and you said she had a
> calm temperament. Of course you havenā?Tt been able to do a lot of other
> testing on any of them. Still, I just really like the sound of her. This is
> my uneducated, scientific opinion.
>
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
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>
> OK, well, hereā?Ts the puppy story.
> So, i went to see the puppies yesterday. These are european dobermans, and,
> iā?Tll tell you guys, these are some big dogs. they look very different
> from the american doberman that i worked with for 10 years. the bone on
> these guys is amazing, the muscle is heavy, the muzzle is shorter and much
> wider, the head is broader, well, the entire dog is broader.
> the breeder pulled out a gun and shot it right there and the pups didnā?Tt
> even look. heh. they were all running around in an open field and, when
> they came to me they were very calm. no licking, biting my hands, jumping,
> barking etc.
> there were 2 boys but, i think that 1 will be to big. he will prob reach 29
> or 30 inches and be 100 pounds easy. the other boy was tall but not as
> heavy. he will prob reach 28 29 inches and 90 pounds or so.
>
> there was3 girls, 1 the breeder thought would have to much drive. the one
> that came to me right away, even before playing with the other pups was very
> stout and heavily boned but will prob only be around 24 inches at the
> shoulder, but, the vet screwed up her tail and, she has no tail at all. the
> 3rd girl did not come up to me until i was there a long time but, she was
> calm when she did, she will prob be 24 26 inches and slightly longer body
> than the no tail girl.
> they all have very solid temperaments, no quivering, barking, etc. they
> have been kennel raised and not in the home. the place was brand new, clean
> and pretty fancy.
> i did get to meet the parents and they were some big dogs. lol.
> every one of the pups would sit and stay sitting when i asked them to with a
> push on their butts.
> but, iā?Tll tell you, the paws on those boy pups were twice the size of my
> 88 pound GSD. lol.
> itā?Ts super hard to choose but, i tentatively chose the smaller boy. but,
> i do like the no tail girl too. lol. she kept coming up to me instead of
> playing with the other puppies. i know that they say not to let stuff like
> that sway you and go by temperament but, itā?Ts so hard to tell. lol.
> Well, there you go. Any comments welcome.
>
> Take care;
> Vivianna
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mardi Hadfield via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
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> Vivianna, When I house broke Sedona, I just took her out side to the same
> place every time and waited until she went. I would then say good potty and
> give her a treat. I gave her a chance to sniff the area but kept her in
> that area. It did not take long for her to get the idea. I now just open
> the door and let her out in my vast fenced yard and she heads to the back
> yard to do her thing. I kept her crated when I could not watch her in the
> house and she did occasionally pee in the crate if I did not get her out in
> time. She will whine and bark to let me know she wants out. so it is up to
> me to get her out in time. Hope this is helpful. Mardi and
> Shaman,retired and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT. PS Shaman was 10 months
> old when I rescued him from a shelter. He had no training whatsoever. I did
> the same thing I did with Sedona when House breaking and he was house
> broken in 3 weeks with no accidents. He learned every thing pretty fast.
> He had not been socialized but he did learn that while he was being trained
> as I worked in dog friendly places as well as people places, like shopping
> malls.After he was attacked several times he became dog reactive and I did
> work through it, but ended up using an electric collar to get him over his
> reactivity. Nothing else had worked so I chose to use that method and It
> only took 2 zaps and he no longer had a problem. I don't think the age that
> I started his training had anything to do with his reactive problem . I
> think it was just his personality, and the fact that he was socialized at a
> later age ,and the E collar was the only thing that helped shape that part
> of his personality.
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