[NAGDU] training my own again

Fri Apr 7 13:31:00 UTC 2017

Julie, now that you've mentioned it, I have actually had better luck with male dogs. I have had six dogs and three of them did not work out for me. Two of these were female dogs. Also, I found that the bigger dogs I've had were the most even in temperament, though I can't imagine why that is. I thought I strictly wanted females, but now I am happy to have a male. Of course my big dog is small next to these dogs Vivianna is talking about. LOL. 

Cindy Lou Ray
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Tough decision!  I like that the no tail girl was choosing you over other things going on.  To me that would indicate that she would be not so easily distracted and easy to train because she wants to please you.  
However, I think I prefer the boy dogs.  They seem a little more consistent day to day.  I like big dogs though, so the size wouldn't be a huge deterent for me.  They all sound like lovely dogs!

Did you get to bring him home?

Julie

On 4/5/2017 10:15 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDwrote:
> I'm with Cindy, in my uneducated opinion team no tail girl!
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>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> I vote for the no tail girl. She sounds really sweet, and you said she had a calm temperament. Of course you haven’t been able to do a lot of other testing on any of them. Still, I just really like the sound of her. This is my uneducated, scientific opinion.
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>> OK, well, here’s the puppy story.
>> So, i went to see the puppies yesterday.  These are european dobermans, and, i’ll tell you guys, these are some big dogs.  they look very different from the american doberman that i worked with for 10 years.  the bone on these guys is amazing, the muscle is heavy, the muzzle is shorter and much wider, the head is broader, well, the entire dog is broader.
>> the breeder pulled out a gun and shot it right there and the pups didn’t even look.  heh.  they were all running around in an open field and, when they came to me they were very calm.  no licking, biting my hands, jumping, barking etc.
>> there were 2 boys but, i think that 1 will be to big.  he will prob reach 29 or 30 inches and be 100 pounds easy.  the other boy was tall but not as heavy.  he will prob reach 28 29 inches and 90 pounds or so.
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>> there was3 girls, 1 the breeder thought would have to much drive.  the one that came to me right away, even before playing with the other pups was very stout and heavily boned but will prob only be around 24 inches at the shoulder, but, the vet screwed up her tail and, she has no tail at all.  the 3rd girl did not come up to me until i was there a long time but, she was calm when she did, she will prob be 24 26 inches and slightly longer body than the no tail girl.
>> they all have very solid temperaments, no quivering, barking, etc.  they have been kennel raised and not in the home.  the place was brand new, clean and pretty fancy.
>> i did get to meet the parents and they were some big dogs.  lol.
>> every one of the pups would sit and stay sitting when i asked them to with a push on their butts.
>> but, i’ll tell you, the paws on those boy pups were twice the size of my 88 pound GSD.  lol.
>> it’s super hard to choose but, i tentatively chose the smaller boy.  but, i do like the no tail girl too.  lol.  she kept coming up to me instead of playing with the other puppies.  i know that they say not to let stuff like that sway you and go by temperament but, it’s so hard to tell.  lol.
>> Well, there you go.  Any comments welcome.
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>> Take care;
>> Vivianna
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>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mardi Hadfield via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
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>> Vivianna, When I house broke Sedona, I just took her out side to the 
>> same place every time and waited until she went. I would then say 
>> good potty and give her a treat. I gave her a chance to sniff the 
>> area but kept her in that area. It did not take long for her to get 
>> the idea. I now just open the door and let her out in my vast fenced 
>> yard and she heads to the back yard to do her thing. I kept her 
>> crated when I could not watch her in the house and she did 
>> occasionally pee in the crate if I did not get her out in time. She will whine and bark to let me know she wants out. so it is  up to
>> me to get her out in time.    Hope this is helpful.    Mardi and
>> Shaman,retired and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT.    PS  Shaman was 10 months
>> old when I rescued him from a shelter. He had no training whatsoever. 
>> I did the same thing I did with Sedona when House breaking and he was 
>> house broken in 3 weeks with no accidents.  He learned every thing pretty fast.
>> He had not been socialized but he did learn that while he was being 
>> trained as I worked in dog friendly places as well as people places, 
>> like shopping malls.After he was attacked several times he became dog 
>> reactive and I did work through it, but ended up using an electric 
>> collar to get him over his reactivity. Nothing else had worked  so I 
>> chose to use that method and It only took 2 zaps and he no longer had 
>> a problem. I don't think the age that I started his training had 
>> anything to do with his reactive problem . I think it was just his 
>> personality, and the fact that he was socialized at a later age ,and 
>> the E collar was the only thing that helped shape that part of his personality.
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