[NAGDU] training my own again
S L Johnson
SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
Fri Apr 7 14:48:26 UTC 2017
Cindy:
This is funny. I have had the opposite experience. I had trouble
controlling the stronger bigger male dogs I had back with my first two dogs.
Since then I have had much better luck with the smaller more gentle females.
I've had better luck with the smaller dogs too. They are just easier to fit
in small spaces. I used to travel a lot and wanted a dog that could easily
fit under seats in the coach section of a plane, on a train or bus. due to
where I have lived for the past eight years I have to depend on private cars
or taxi services for most of my transportation. As we all know many
personal cars and taxi company cars have very little room on the floor of
the back seat. When riding with family and friends I usually put my dog on
the floor in the front passenger seat. In a lot of cars this is also a
small space therefore, I always prefer a smaller dog. Actually I am a bit
afraid of larger dogs after suffering two serious experiences where me and
my guide dog were subjected to multiple daily attacks from a large
aggressive guide dog in apartment buildings where I lived. As Julie said,
you have to decide what you really need in a dog and where and under what
circumstances you and your dog will be working. We are all different with
our own preferences of what type of dog we are comfortable working. It is
interesting to hear how our opinions are based on previous experiences
whether they have been good or bad.
Sandra and Eva, the little golden
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From: Cindy Ray via NAGDU
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] training my own again
Julie, now that you've mentioned it, I have actually had better luck with
male dogs. I have had six dogs and three of them did not work out for me.
Two of these were female dogs. Also, I found that the bigger dogs I've had
were the most even in temperament, though I can't imagine why that is. I
thought I strictly wanted females, but now I am happy to have a male. Of
course my big dog is small next to these dogs Vivianna is talking about.
LOL.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] training my own again
Tough decision! I like that the no tail girl was choosing you over other
things going on. To me that would indicate that she would be not so easily
distracted and easy to train because she wants to please you.
However, I think I prefer the boy dogs. They seem a little more consistent
day to day. I like big dogs though, so the size wouldn't be a huge deterent
for me. They all sound like lovely dogs!
Did you get to bring him home?
Julie
On 4/5/2017 10:15 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDwrote:
> I'm with Cindy, in my uneducated opinion team no tail girl!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I vote for the no tail girl. She sounds really sweet, and you said she
>> had a calm temperament. Of course you havenâ?Tt been able to do a lot of
>> other testing on any of them. Still, I just really like the sound of her.
>> This is my uneducated, scientific opinion.
>>
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>
>> cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna
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>> Cc: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] training my own again
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, well, hereâ?Ts the puppy story.
>> So, i went to see the puppies yesterday. These are european dobermans,
>> and, iâ?Tll tell you guys, these are some big dogs. they look very
>> different from the american doberman that i worked with for 10 years.
>> the bone on these guys is amazing, the muscle is heavy, the muzzle is
>> shorter and much wider, the head is broader, well, the entire dog is
>> broader.
>> the breeder pulled out a gun and shot it right there and the pups
>> didnâ?Tt even look. heh. they were all running around in an open field
>> and, when they came to me they were very calm. no licking, biting my
>> hands, jumping, barking etc.
>> there were 2 boys but, i think that 1 will be to big. he will prob reach
>> 29 or 30 inches and be 100 pounds easy. the other boy was tall but not
>> as heavy. he will prob reach 28 29 inches and 90 pounds or so.
>>
>> there was3 girls, 1 the breeder thought would have to much drive. the
>> one that came to me right away, even before playing with the other pups
>> was very stout and heavily boned but will prob only be around 24 inches
>> at the shoulder, but, the vet screwed up her tail and, she has no tail at
>> all. the 3rd girl did not come up to me until i was there a long time
>> but, she was calm when she did, she will prob be 24 26 inches and
>> slightly longer body than the no tail girl.
>> they all have very solid temperaments, no quivering, barking, etc. they
>> have been kennel raised and not in the home. the place was brand new,
>> clean and pretty fancy.
>> i did get to meet the parents and they were some big dogs. lol.
>> every one of the pups would sit and stay sitting when i asked them to
>> with a push on their butts.
>> but, iâ?Tll tell you, the paws on those boy pups were twice the size of
>> my 88 pound GSD. lol.
>> itâ?Ts super hard to choose but, i tentatively chose the smaller boy.
>> but, i do like the no tail girl too. lol. she kept coming up to me
>> instead of playing with the other puppies. i know that they say not to
>> let stuff like that sway you and go by temperament but, itâ?Ts so hard to
>> tell. lol.
>> Well, there you go. Any comments welcome.
>>
>> Take care;
>> Vivianna
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mardi Hadfield via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
>>
>> Vivianna, When I house broke Sedona, I just took her out side to the
>> same place every time and waited until she went. I would then say
>> good potty and give her a treat. I gave her a chance to sniff the
>> area but kept her in that area. It did not take long for her to get
>> the idea. I now just open the door and let her out in my vast fenced
>> yard and she heads to the back yard to do her thing. I kept her
>> crated when I could not watch her in the house and she did
>> occasionally pee in the crate if I did not get her out in time. She will
>> whine and bark to let me know she wants out. so it is up to
>> me to get her out in time. Hope this is helpful. Mardi and
>> Shaman,retired and Neechee,GD and Sedona,GDIT. PS Shaman was 10
>> months
>> old when I rescued him from a shelter. He had no training whatsoever.
>> I did the same thing I did with Sedona when House breaking and he was
>> house broken in 3 weeks with no accidents. He learned every thing pretty
>> fast.
>> He had not been socialized but he did learn that while he was being
>> trained as I worked in dog friendly places as well as people places,
>> like shopping malls.After he was attacked several times he became dog
>> reactive and I did work through it, but ended up using an electric
>> collar to get him over his reactivity. Nothing else had worked so I
>> chose to use that method and It only took 2 zaps and he no longer had
>> a problem. I don't think the age that I started his training had
>> anything to do with his reactive problem . I think it was just his
>> personality, and the fact that he was socialized at a later age ,and
>> the E collar was the only thing that helped shape that part of his
>> personality.
>>
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