[NAGDU] : Affordable dog food
Julie Johnson
julielj402 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 21 20:32:18 UTC 2017
Yes, the original dog being discussed will be a guide dog, or at least
that is the plan. She will be owner training with my help. So there is
no school to consult to suggest a food.
Julie
On 4/21/2017 3:15 PM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU wrote:
> I am not sure the dog originally being discussed was going to be a guide
> dog, but the discussion could lead to discouragement. Check out companies
> where some of the products are manufactured. Sometimes they offer discounts
> to people with service animals. Also, if a person watches for sales it would
> be possible to get the food or whatever cheaper. Probably not so much the
> medicines.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: S L Johnson <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Affordable dog food
>
> Cindy:
>
> Thanks for pointing out the fact that not all blind people can afford the
> high end dog foods. However we do want our dogs to be as healthy as
> possible. Sometimes on this list it feels like people are saying if we do
> not feed these high quality foods we are not taking good care of our dogs.
> It feels like some of you are saying that having a guide dog is only for
> those who are lucky enough to have lots of money. Well, that is not the
> case for many of us. We all know the unemployment and low wages for the
> blind. I am a retired senior with additional disabilities in addition to
> blindness. After rent and utilities there isn't much left so I have to do
> my best to find affordable products for myself, my home and my guide dog. I
> suggest to anyone getting a new dog that they discuss their dog's diet with
> the school and the vet once you have your dog home. I did this and the
> school and my vet said that Purina products are of good quality and suitable
> for a working dog. I always discuss the dog food choices with my vet at
> every visit just in case we want to make a change. It is possible to feed a
> guide dog on a very low budget. Of course the other concern for those of us
> with limited income is the high cost of heartworm, flea prevention,
> vaccinations and vet care. It is too bad there is not any financial
> assistance to help low income guide dog handlers with these expenses.
> Please do not discourage anyone from applying for a guide dog just because
> they are living on a very limited income
>
> Sandra Johnson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:17 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Affordable dog food
>
> Peter, sometimes people simply can't do what you are suggesting, so we are
> looking for inexpensive dogfoods here that people can afford. Dogs can
> thrive on these foods; some will become ill anyway, so I think we need to
> continue helping the person find the inexpensive dogfoods that she needs in
> order to have a dog right now. Maybe one day she can afford more.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Wolf via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:22 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Peter Wolf <pwolf1 at wolfskills.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Affordable dog food
>
> Hey all,
>
> After losing a cat to diabetes years ago and tracing it to carb content in
> food, we learned about commercial food. - Now we bite the bullet and spend
> the money on super high end dog food. Organic, clean and multi source
> protein. A lot of money. Raw chicken, raw other meats, and a bowl out of
> Origen or Acana. A big bag is w-a-y more than commercial brands. But we
> believe from our research In the long run, we may spend the same amount of
> money on food for life, as we might on horrific vet bills for a prematurely
> ill or dying dog. Think about it. We really think it is worth it. Perhaps
> consider at least cutting commercial food with healthier stuff if it is all
> you can afford. Check out Dr. Becker's online vet commentaries. Hey she
> has too much to day like Dr. Mercola does for humans; both can be a little
> alarmist sometimes. But they generally have excellent information with
> longevity as the main interest.
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
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>> 1. Re: economical dog food (S L Johnson)
>> 2. Re: economical dog food (Aleeha Dudley)
>> 3. Re: economical dog food (Julie Johnson)
>> 4. Re: economical dog food (Cindy Ray)
>> 5. Re: economical dog food (S L Johnson)
>> 6. Re: economical dog food (Jody ianuzzi)
>> 7. The old goat (d m gina)
>> 8. Re: The old goat (Chantel Cuddemi)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:49:51 -0400
>> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>> Message-ID: <6B85FF7E26434B0AA1F967B3F2C411B3 at SLJohnson>
>>
>> Julie:
>>
>> Purina Dog Chow is a good price for someone on a budget. In grocery
>> and department stores it is less than $1 per pound. The most
>> economical way to buy it is in the 40 pound bag that sometimes
>> includes an extra 6 pounds bonus. My sister has found it for me at
>> Rural King for $20 to $22. It is listed at very reasonable prices on
> several of the dog food websites too.
>> At first when my sister brought me a bag I was a bit worried about the
>> nutritional value especially for a working dog. I had used other
>> higher priced Purina products such as Purina ProPlan Purina One and
>> Purina Beneful witch all sell for approximately $1 per pound. I asked
>> my vet and she said there is no need to feed expensive foods. The
>> lower priced name brands such as Purina Dog Chow are perfectly
>> suitable. More information about the Purina dry foods can be found at
>> www.purina.com. For other lower priced dry dog foods search on some
>> of the other dog food websites. Some companies offer free shipping if
>> you order the larger bags. I hope this helps your friend. Having to
>> take care of a guide dog is a real concern for those of us on very low
> incomes.
>> Sandra Johnson
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Julie Johnson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>>
>> I'm asking for a friend on a budget. What dog foods would people
>> suggest that are lower priced? If we can keep it to $1 per pound that
>> would be great!
>>
>>
>> She will likely have it shipped to her home from Chewy or PetFlow.
>> She does not have a dog yet, so determining exact dietary needs is a
>> bit of a guess, but she needs to have some ideas before bringing the
>> dog
> home.
>>
>> It will definitely be an adult dog, no puppy food needed. She is okay
>> with grains. She wants a dry food. The dog will be in the 40 to 60
>> pound range, so no tiny bites or anything like that.
>>
>>
>> I'm looking at Purina One and the Diamond Naturals lines for her.
>> What other suggestions do folks have?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any ideas!
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:04:40 -0500
>> From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
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>> I will say that the Purina dog chow may be OK for a pet, but may not
>> have
> the protein and other ingredients necessary for an active working dog. There
> are definitely reasons that each line of their food is priced differently.
>> Personally, I took my dog off Iams the minute I got her home, well,
>> about
> a month after so she could settle in. She did not do well on it, so I
> switched her to Pro Plan Active Sport, the 26/16 formula. She does extremely
> well on it and I pay about $42 for a 37.5 lb bag on Chewy.
>> I have fed Diamond Naturals lamb and rice before, and it was a good
>> food,
> my first dog just couldn?t handle the rice.
>>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, S L Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> Julie:
>>>
>>> Purina Dog Chow is a good price for someone on a budget. In grocery
>>> and department stores it is less than $1 per pound. The most
>>> economical way to buy it is in the 40 pound bag that sometimes
>>> includes an extra 6 pounds bonus. My sister has found it for me at
>>> Rural King for $20 to $22. It is listed at very reasonable prices on
> several of the dog food websites too.
>>> At first when my sister brought me a bag I was a bit worried about
>>> the nutritional value especially for a working dog. I had used other
>>> higher priced Purina products such as Purina ProPlan Purina One and
>>> Purina Beneful witch all sell for approximately $1 per pound. I
>>> asked my vet and she said there is no need to feed expensive foods.
>>> The lower priced name brands such as Purina Dog Chow are perfectly
>>> suitable. More information about the Purina dry foods can be found
>>> at www.purina.com. For other lower priced dry dog foods search on
>>> some of the other dog food websites. Some companies offer free
>>> shipping if you order the larger bags. I hope this helps your
>>> friend. Having to take care of a guide dog is a real concern for
>>> those
> of us on very low incomes.
>>> Sandra Johnson
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Julie Johnson via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>>>
>>> I'm asking for a friend on a budget. What dog foods would people
>>> suggest that are lower priced? If we can keep it to $1 per pound that
>>> would be great!
>>>
>>>
>>> She will likely have it shipped to her home from Chewy or PetFlow.
>>> She does not have a dog yet, so determining exact dietary needs is a
>>> bit of a guess, but she needs to have some ideas before bringing the
>>> dog
> home.
>>>
>>> It will definitely be an adult dog, no puppy food needed. She is okay
>>> with grains. She wants a dry food. The dog will be in the 40 to 60
>>> pound range, so no tiny bites or anything like that.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking at Purina One and the Diamond Naturals lines for her.
>>> What other suggestions do folks have?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any ideas!
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:22:33 -0500
>> From: Julie Johnson <julielj402 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>> Message-ID: <c797dfbd-77c1-ad5e-1caa-0a4ab7947842 at gmail.com>
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>>
>> Thanks to everyone! I am going to look more closely at the Purina One
>> and Pro Plan, Diamond Naturals and the Rachael Ray. We looked at Pets
>> Mart yesterday, just so she could get an idea of what is available.
>> I've been ordering dog food for so long, I lost touch with what is
>> available in the store and how much it costs. We didn't look at every
>> bag of food there, but there wasn't anything she could afford long term.
>> $70 for a 20 pound bag of dog food is kind of steep IMO.
>>
>> I get that you get what you pay for and feeding a quality food
>> prevents serious medical problems, but perhaps the dog food industry
>> has gone a little nutters. You could easily spend more money on dog
>> food
> than you
>> spend for food for yourself. I can't in good conscience recommend Old
>> Roy to her, but neither can I suggest something that will mean she's
>> eating Ramen noodles breakfast lunch and supper.
>>
>> I'll see what I can find, give her the information and she can go from
>> there. Thanks to everyone for the ideas!
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:03:33 -0500
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>> Message-ID: <02a801d2b926$7f87fcc0$7e97f640$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Well, I'm buying Iams Senior on a monthly basis for about $60 for 52
>> pounds, but I guess that's pretty high. At The Seeing Eye once they
>> said that the difference between Purena 1 and one of the other premium
>> Purena dog foods was that the formula was more consistent. Anyway, it
>> is a
> hard decision.
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie
>> Johnson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 10:23 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Julie Johnson <julielj402 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>>
>> Thanks to everyone! I am going to look more closely at the Purina One
>> and Pro Plan, Diamond Naturals and the Rachael Ray. We looked at Pets
>> Mart yesterday, just so she could get an idea of what is available.
>> I've been ordering dog food for so long, I lost touch with what is
>> available in the store and how much it costs. We didn't look at every
>> bag of food there, but there wasn't anything she could afford long term.
>> $70 for a 20 pound bag of dog food is kind of steep IMO.
>>
>> I get that you get what you pay for and feeding a quality food
>> prevents serious medical problems, but perhaps the dog food industry
>> has gone a little nutters. You could easily spend more money on dog
>> food
> than you
>> spend for food for yourself. I can't in good conscience recommend Old
>> Roy to her, but neither can I suggest something that will mean she's
>> eating Ramen noodles breakfast lunch and supper.
>>
>> I'll see what I can find, give her the information and she can go from
>> there. Thanks to everyone for the ideas!
>> Julie
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:16:51 -0400
>> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>> Message-ID: <29ED927D0AA74AFCB9CA0A72DA17F10C at SLJohnson>
>>
>> Julie:
>>
>> Oh my goodness, $70 for 20 pounds. I am sure there are a lot of us
>> who cannot afford that kind of food. I just checked the Rural King
>> website www.ruralking.com. They have the Purina Dog Chow Complete 46
>> pound bag for $19.99. I do not know what the shipping price would be
>> since I get mine from their store in my area. They also offer a large
>> selection of other dry dog foods as well as bones and treats. Believe
>> me without these low prices I could not afford to feed my guide dog
>> either. Unfortunately rent and utilities keep going way up but the
>> income stays the same. It is too bad that the guide dog schools do
>> not offer some kind of discount coupons or stipend to help graduates,
> especially retired seniors, on very low incomes.
>> Sandra -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> From: Julie Johnson via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:22 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>>
>> Thanks to everyone! I am going to look more closely at the Purina One
>> and Pro Plan, Diamond Naturals and the Rachael Ray. We looked at Pets
>> Mart yesterday, just so she could get an idea of what is available.
>> I've been ordering dog food for so long, I lost touch with what is
>> available in the store and how much it costs. We didn't look at every
>> bag of food there, but there wasn't anything she could afford long term.
>> $70 for a 20 pound bag of dog food is kind of steep IMO.
>>
>> I get that you get what you pay for and feeding a quality food
>> prevents serious medical problems, but perhaps the dog food industry
>> has gone a little nutters. You could easily spend more money on dog
>> food
> than you
>> spend for food for yourself. I can't in good conscience recommend Old
>> Roy to her, but neither can I suggest something that will mean she's
>> eating Ramen noodles breakfast lunch and supper.
>>
>> I'll see what I can find, give her the information and she can go from
>> there. Thanks to everyone for the ideas!
>> Julie
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:34:09 -0400
>> From: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>> Message-ID: <E86F74B0-EBE4-48E6-BA56-E1D7397A187F at gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Truly is a great resource for food and their prices and shipping is great.
>>
>> You can also get dog food from Amazon. Pierina pro plan is $39 and
>> Pierina one is $29. Shipping is free
>>
>> Jody
>>
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>
>> 50 Years of Star Trek!
>> Live Long and Prosper!
>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Aleeha Dudley via NAGDU
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> I will say that the Purina dog chow may be OK for a pet, but may not
>>> have
> the protein and other ingredients necessary for an active working dog. There
> are definitely reasons that each line of their food is priced differently.
>>> Personally, I took my dog off Iams the minute I got her home, well,
>>> about
> a month after so she could settle in. She did not do well on it, so I
> switched her to Pro Plan Active Sport, the 26/16 formula. She does extremely
> well on it and I pay about $42 for a 37.5 lb bag on Chewy.
>>> I have fed Diamond Naturals lamb and rice before, and it was a good
>>> food,
> my first dog just couldn?t handle the rice.
>>>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, S L Johnson via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>>> Julie:
>>>>
>>>> Purina Dog Chow is a good price for someone on a budget. In grocery
>>>> and department stores it is less than $1 per pound. The most
>>>> economical way to buy it is in the 40 pound bag that sometimes
>>>> includes an extra 6 pounds bonus. My sister has found it for me at
>>>> Rural King for $20 to $22. It is listed at very reasonable prices
>>>> on
> several of the dog food websites too.
>>>> At first when my sister brought me a bag I was a bit worried about
>>>> the nutritional value especially for a working dog. I had used
>>>> other higher priced Purina products such as Purina ProPlan Purina
>>>> One and Purina Beneful witch all sell for approximately $1 per
>>>> pound. I asked my vet and she said there is no need to feed
>>>> expensive foods. The lower priced name brands such as Purina Dog
>>>> Chow are perfectly suitable. More information about the Purina dry
>>>> foods can be found at www.purina.com. For other lower priced dry
>>>> dog foods search on some of the other dog food websites. Some
>>>> companies offer free shipping if you order the larger bags. I hope
>>>> this helps your friend. Having to take care of a guide dog is a
>>>> real
> concern for those of us on very low incomes.
>>>> Sandra Johnson
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Julie Johnson via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 3:30 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] economical dog food
>>>>
>>>> I'm asking for a friend on a budget. What dog foods would people
>>>> suggest that are lower priced? If we can keep it to $1 per pound that
>>>> would be great!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> She will likely have it shipped to her home from Chewy or PetFlow.
>>>> She does not have a dog yet, so determining exact dietary needs is a
>>>> bit of a guess, but she needs to have some ideas before bringing the
>>>> dog
> home.
>>>>
>>>> It will definitely be an adult dog, no puppy food needed. She is okay
>>>> with grains. She wants a dry food. The dog will be in the 40 to 60
>>>> pound range, so no tiny bites or anything like that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking at Purina One and the Diamond Naturals lines for her.
>>>> What other suggestions do folks have?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any ideas!
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:48:58 -0400
>> From: d m gina <dmgina at mysero.net>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [NAGDU] The old goat
>> Message-ID: <d29dc475.1d02.4102.b5ba.81d6494b85b5 at samobile.net>
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>> I am sure I got a goat instead of the dog.
>> The nose is down all of the time.
>> Gee it is unreal smile.
>> That is something I would love to change.
>> All of the items you want to add to the nose she pushes off.
>> So I went back to the prong collar.
>> Still nose is happy to see what it can find.
>> Have fun.
>>
>> --
>> --Dar
>> skype: dmgina23
>> FB: dmgina
>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 04:14:50 ?
>> From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] The old goat
>> Message-ID:
>> <CANCNGQJ2N3X_spiUTFAsGMHjH_8hciT????v?@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Have you thought about using the smart collar instead? It's a plastic
>> collar that has points on it. It's a collar that goes higher up on the
>> dogs ears.
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:50 PM d m gina via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure I got a goat instead of the dog.
>>> The nose is down all of the time.
>>> Gee it is unreal smile.
>>> That is something I would love to change.
>>> All of the items you want to add to the nose she pushes off.
>>> So I went back to the prong collar.
>>> Still nose is happy to see what it can find.
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Dar
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