[NAGDU] bad dogs

[Tracy Carcione]

Hi Tami.
That's interesting.  I could see how it could work, if the food is in front
of or to the dog's right--well, my direction, which is to his right.  Krokus
often seems to dive left-ish, where the food is closer to him.  I have
sometimes managed to stick my foot between his nose and a tasty tidbit, but
that's just dumb luck.  
Still, I'll keep this idea in mind myself.
Tracy


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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] bad dogs

Dar,

I think you've mentioned you have balance issues, so this may not work for
you. It may not even be a good idea in certain situations. I'll toss it out
anyway, just in case it might work.

What would happen if you bumped her away from the food with your leg? If you
can get a strong enough shove right behind the shoulder to unbalance and
thus move the dog's front end away from the yummy food on the ground, then
block with your knee if the dog tries to get back to it, you might be able
to win the battle. I've used that mostly at home with my husband's
muscle-bound food-obsessed beastie, though I've also used it on the poodles
to convince them not to cut across me for a good sniff. I'm not sure I'd try
it with my guide in a crowd or in a place I'm likely to lose orientation,
but it does work. It's a direct form of communication that mimics how dogs
communicate boundaries and so on. I keep my body turned slightly away from
the dog and don't even look at it. It also takes less strength than trying
to pull a stubborn monster away from a goodie, so you might get more
victories.

Anyway, it's a thought. You're right that if you're only winning part of the
time, you're not winning at all. That can be so frustrating with a strong,
stubborn dog. Hope you get a way to win consistently and get your girl past
this.

Tami

On 04/24/2017 07:38 PM, d m gina via NAGDU wrote:
> I am so pleased Julie is working with me on leashes.
> My dog is a diver. Where there is food she will go to it.
> Doesn't matter if it is a restaurant or any place.
> I asked for a shorter leash so I could use the canny collar.
> This would help keep it tighter on the nose, and when head goes down 
> or starts to go down I can hopefully catch it faster.
> At church on Saturday was lots of activity with food. Especially cake, 
> I am sure as the world she was given cake as a puppy.
> This girl was so truly out of control I had to pick her up and set her 
> down outside. Saying, we are now outside.
> She is so strong for me I couldn't get her to pick up her head.
> I even stomped on the floor that didn't matter either.
> A friend shared there are times you win and there are times they win.
> Oh me I better win more than just every other time.
> She will keep me busy as always.
> If we can get rid of this rain loll I can get out and walk with her.
> We are out, but walks are cut back because of rain starting.
> For me I want my dog to be top dog.
> I will keep working with it.
>

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