[NAGDU] Service dog license

Sun Feb 12 22:40:07 UTC 2017

For the millionth time, it is not the service dog that has access it is the disabled handler!

It is the person with a disability that has access with a service dog. When someone has a so-called fake service dog it is not the dog that is the fake it is the handler faking a disability.

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> On Feb 12, 2017, at 5:06 PM, Michael Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> The ADA does not provide for any service dog user being required to have a
> special license. This is right for many reasons. First, licensing
> requirements would necessarily be varied depending on the animal service
> requirements. What a dog does for us as blind people is by definition not
> the same as what a seizure animal does. A dog that helps someone with
> diabetes also is different in its service. How would one create a "license"
> for all purposes?
> 
> Second, having a license to drive a car by definition is not at all the same
> as what we encounter having service animals. Also, drivers licenses vary
> from state to state. Do you get a license to go out into the world when you
> graduate from high school or college? No. You get an acknowledgement that
> you have received training through your diploma, but that is not a license.
> 
> Third, as others have said, we are potential targets with so-called
> licenses.
> 
> Finally, in the case of counterfeit service animals the burden should be on
> non-service animal owners to prove that their animals should be out in
> public.  All animals owned by humans, at least in most states, are or are
> supposed to be licensed. Isn't that enough? 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> Michael Hingson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 9:08 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink <vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Service dog license
> 
> I'm going to have to admit my ignorance on the subject, can you tell me what
> the ADA  says about that?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2017, at 12:05 AM, William Vandervest via NAGDU
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> while i personally support the idea of having service animal i d's,
> federal law prohibits them being required
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> timelord09 at comcast.net
>> 
>> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See
>> 
>> William and Leader Dog Lynerd
>> -----Original Message----- From: Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU
>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 23:46
>> To: Nancy VanderBrink via Nagdu
>> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Service dog license
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> So I'm going to make you mad at me but I don't understandsomething...
>> 
>> If you have to get a license to drive why not one for a guide dog.
>> I know that people who were glasses are supposed to have their picture
> taken with her glasses on and I guess I wonder why he could not be something
> like that but for us with our dog?
>> 
>> I know figuring out how to come up with some sort of database of
> accredited schools and then how to figure out how to make sure these places
> are accredited would be a process but I guess I kind of wonder if having it
> on something that already exists and is already official wouldn't that make
> it easier?
>> 
>> I mean, if I have to go get a new ID when I move wouldn't it make sense to
> just go get a new ID with your picture of you and your partner in it that
> way?
>> 
>> I'm not trying to ignite a fire storm or anything I just don't really
> understand why this is such a big deal. I understand the need for privacy
> but I'm not even really saying that you have to say on there why you have
> the dog I guess I really just kind of would think that if they could get
> accredited schools in a database and then the DMV could choose the school
> you went to given on some sort  of letter or something, why is that bad???
>> 
>> Just trying to understand.
>> 
>> vandyvanderbrink at outlook.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
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