[NAGDU] Billings clinic

S L Johnson SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
Wed Jul 19 18:54:10 UTC 2017


Dar:

Sorry for my misunderstanding.  You are right to go around by yourself.  I 
love watching the dog work in big medical buildings.  As you said, we get 
our dogs so we can get around as well as the sighted people do.  I also love 
it when Eva and I can show one of those sighted people where to go if they 
don't know and we do.  Keep up the good work.  It sounds like your little 
girl is growing up to be a very responsible helpful guide.  Sometimes we 
just have to ignore the public when they make their ridiculous comments.

Sandra and Eva

-----Original Message----- 
From: d m gina via NAGDU
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Billings clinic

As stated in my message I did get to the top.
Can't go any higher.
Changing clinics we have two this one and the Catholic one.
I will stay with this one, it isn't doctors giving me problems it is
the pals group that helps you from one place to another, where I would
rather go on my own to teach her the chalenges she enjoys the most.
They have enough persons to help from one place to another, if I need
help I have asked.
Where a place is.
I enjoy getting around a building as well as the sighted person does.
This is one of the reasons why I got a dog was to get around better.
I even have done this by cane.
I also love the challenge. I am slower with the cane, but I do work it
out making sure I won't hurt anyone if I bump them with the cane.
I'm pretty sure Bud man gets around his places if not better than I can
around mine.
I go early enough so that I do have time to find where I am going.
Original message:
> Dar:

> I can understand why you are upset.  It is not the van driver's job to
> criticize you and your dog.  The public does not understand how difficult 
> it
> can be to control a young rambunctious dog.  I always have told people to
> call my school.  Then the school can explain that I am working my dog in 
> the
> way I was instructed to during training.  You should definitely speak to a
> supervisor.  If the problems continue, then you may have to try another
> clinic.  Good luck.

> Sandra and Eva

> -----Original Message-----
> From: d m gina via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 12:46 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: [NAGDU] Billings clinic

> Yesterday I was picked up by a van from the Billings clinic to go to a
> doctor appointment.
> The lady started unlocking my gate, I shared I would be glad to do this
> when folks find it easier to brake the lock than open gate.
> She got in a huff saying I didn't want help from anyone.
> I shared that would be fine to help if anyone would replace the broken
> part on the gate.
> I smiled getting into the van.
> Then making conversation I shared a few months ago I dropped the leash
> getting out of the van with my cane where the dog decided to take a 
> strole.
> Even when I called her she stopped but had plans to take a nice walk
> down our block.
> The driver asked me if she could get the dog, I shared that would be
> kind of you.
> Well after lady left I corrected dog because this wasn't going to be a
> game played many times over.
> We live on a busy stree, where I was waiting for her to get hit.
> The lady shared that the pals department was working on taking my dog 
> away.
> That I was mean to my dog had no respect for the dog, and I didn't
> deserve the dog.
> My rely was it is good to know what is happening how far have you gotten?
> Reply was not far we don't know school you got this dog from.
> I have Julie's harness with no school name on it.
> Also a leash same way no school ame on it.
> I must say I was shaken when I know all I try to do is keep missie in
> control in a public building.
> Lady shared that she knew I had three dogs taken away from me.
> I explained that wasn't true. Her reply was then that roomer had to stop.
> We get to the clinic where she starts talking to dog.
> I asked her not to do this just speak to person who trained with dog
> and they will give commands.
> She shared I didn't know what I was talking about and the dog knew 
> nothing.
> I asked her to stop enough was enough.
> I get into building where she asks someone to take me up to my place of
> appointment.
> Not to talk to dog or touch it even though it is something that must be
> done.
> I did get to the second floor asking immediently to speak to a manager.
> I shared that I was threatened to have my dog taken away from the pals
> clinic.
> He asked if I got hit and I said no, I shared what happened, sharing
> that my training for the dog was from set school, and I wasn't going to
> change a thing.
> I want to be left alone on how to travel with my dog making sure she is
> well behaved in a setting as a clinic.
> Then I kept going up to the top.
> Way to the top.
> The lady shared with me she understood getting hold of staff in the pals
> area.
> I can't train dog if she doesn't make mistakes.
> Showing her doors elevators and much more as we are all trained to do
> in set schools.
> This is not the first time this problem has happened in set clinic.
> It was so bad seeing eye said they wouldn't take me back because they
> had to many complaints from set clinic.
> Complaints as muzzle was on to tight, boots are on dogs feet, prong
> collar shouldn't be used at all.
> Corrections are not allowed in clinic.
> Where when I brought her home, she had springs in her feet. If she
> thought something was good to look at behind her, she would jump and
> turn around.
> I picked her up by the middle of the harness sitting her down saying we
> are going this direction.
> That never happened again.
> Someone decided that it was ok to have her jump in their lap.
> I shared this wasn't part of the training. Getting her down again, she
> did get corrected to let her know this wasn't going to happen again.
> I am giving clinic another chance where if this doesn't stop I am
> feeling I can charge pals for harassment.
> Just thought I would share.
> I went home by uber I didn't want to go home with the same lady having
> more problems.
> The ride to the clinic is free to those who are patients of the clinic.
> A grant is given to them so it isn't as though they are paying for set
> grant.
> Thanks for reading.

> --
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