[NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind woman and guide dog kicked off American Airline flight

NAGDU President blind411 at verizon.net
Sat Mar 18 10:44:22 UTC 2017


	First of all, I offer the usual disclaimer: I am not an attorney.
This information is provided as informal guidance only and should not be
construed as legal advice.  It is my understanding that recording is legal
provided there is no expectation of privacy. In other words, if one is on a
bus, walking along the sidewalk, getting into a cab in front of the house,
shopping at Walmart, etc., there is no expectation of privacy and,
therefore, should be no prohibition of recording. If, on the other hand, you
are on the telephone in your home, in a private office, or some other place
where one would reasonably expect privacy, recording would be illegal. I
believe that the assertion that, if one person is aware that a recording is
taking place it is legal is a myth. If I am recording a private
conversation, I know the recording is being made but the other person who I
am recording may not know. If that person does not give informed consent
when there is an expectation of privacy, making the recording would not be
legal. The only exception might be a search warrant in which a judge gives
permission for the recording to take place in an effort to obtain evidence.

Fraternally yours,
Marion



Marion Gwizdala, President
National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
National Federation of the Blind
(813) 626-2789
President at NAGDU.ORG


The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
you back.


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher
via NAGDU
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:32 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Jordan Gallacher
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind woman and guide dog kicked off
American Airline flight

The problem with recording is that it is different from state to state.
Louisiana for example it is perfectly legal to record as long as one of the
people involved knows that recording is going on the last time I checked.
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Grider via
NAGDU
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 6:23 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Rachel Grider
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind woman and guide dog kicked off
American Airline flight

Hi, All:

It has been interesting and educational to read these messages. I have not
had my guide dog long and have not really experienced anything like thiss,
except for one time in which I was denied entry into an event because of my
dog; this was upsetting, but I was able to speak with the manager and was
allowed in with many apologies. I have no doubt that I will experience many
similar situations that not be as easily solved.

I don't want to restate what has already been said. Some of you mentioned,
however, that even if the person being denied access is calm and
professional, they may be accused of being angry and hostile.
Do you think that recording these conversations would possibly make solving
the discrimination problems easier? This way, you would actually have proof
of what actually took place to show the supervisor or the police...

Cheers!

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On 3/17/17, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Dogs must not eat any food but water. I have never had Do you mean 
> that you never feed your dog anything but water before you fly, or is 
> there a ruling about it?
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dbTarzan 
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:58 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: dbTarzan <dr.dbtarzan at gmail.com>; Tracy Carcione 
> <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind woman and guide dog kicked off 
> American Airline flight
>
> Hi everyone, dbTarzan here.
> I have ever had flight 200 times with my guide dog in Japan.
> I have to present a guide dog certificate at an airline counter in 
> order to board an airplane. I put my dog under my legs. The seat next 
> to me is blanked if it is not crowded.
> Dogs must not eat any food but water. I have never had trouble so far.
>
> dbTarzan.
>
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