[NAGDU] FW: [Njagdu] Blind woman and guide dog kicked off American Airline flight

Rachel Grider rachel.grider at gmail.com
Sat Mar 18 19:28:46 UTC 2017


Thank you for the recording advice. I will definitely try to find out
the actual law in this regard.

As for feeding before a flight: I have only flown once with her, the
trip home from The Seeing Eye. I fed her half of her morning rations
before leaving, and, following the advice of my instructors, I gave
her bits of a dog biscuit during take-off and landing. I think that
next time we fly, I will not give her anything on the flight, but they
told me it would be good to do that for her first flight too cut down
on anxiety. I am pretty sure she would have been fine without it,
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On 3/18/17, David via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> That is correct, Marion.  If you are in a public space and whomever you
> are recording is also in public space, you may record.  It is an
> activity protected under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
> No one, even the police, may legally stop you from recording, unless you
> are creating a public danger or interfering with the lawful activities
> of others.  You may be prohibited from recording in some security areas
> and national defense areas, although that is not entirely settled law.
> If you are stopped from recording in a public space and the issue is
> important to you, contact the local office of the ACLU.
>
> Recording over the telephone, or in any area where there is an
> expectation of privacy, is another matter and is governed by state law.
> The laws concerning recording where there is an expectation of privacy
> vary widely between states.  Some states require the express consent of
> the other party, and some, only one party needs to know of the
> recording.  Some only require notice to the other party that the call is
> being recorded.  Much of the commercial recording by banks and financial
> institutions is illegal in many states.
>
> This is not legal advice, either.  'Just a summary of my understanding
> of what the law is.
>
> David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
>
> On 3/18/2017 6:44 AM, NAGDU President via NAGDU wrote:
>> 	First of all, I offer the usual disclaimer: I am not an attorney.
>> This information is provided as informal guidance only and should not be
>> construed as legal advice.  It is my understanding that recording is
>> legal
>> provided there is no expectation of privacy. In other words, if one is on
>> a
>> bus, walking along the sidewalk, getting into a cab in front of the
>> house,
>> shopping at Walmart, etc., there is no expectation of privacy and,
>> therefore, should be no prohibition of recording. If, on the other hand,
>> you
>> are on the telephone in your home, in a private office, or some other
>> place
>> where one would reasonably expect privacy, recording would be illegal. I
>> believe that the assertion that, if one person is aware that a recording
>> is
>> taking place it is legal is a myth. If I am recording a private
>> conversation, I know the recording is being made but the other person who
>> I
>> am recording may not know. If that person does not give informed consent
>> when there is an expectation of privacy, making the recording would not
>> be
>> legal. The only exception might be a search warrant in which a judge
>> gives
>> permission for the recording to take place in an effort to obtain
>> evidence.
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>>
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> (813) 626-2789
>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>>
>>
>
>
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