[NAGDU] Service dog in Japan

[Gary Steeves]

hi

yes, you can do that here as well for financial or property issues. in Canada, where I am, in order to manage health care DECISIONS you would have to get a committee of person which gives you the power to manage a person's finances and property and then the committee of person gives you the power to make health care DECISIONS  for a person. to get committee of person in Canada you have to go to court whereas a power of attorney  is done with a lawyer.

regardless of the differences in wonder what it means  with relation to a guide dog.  certainly wouldn't want my guide dog managing my money or I'd end up with really nice dog beds  and Amazon delivering chew bones every day. :)

Gary


On May 10, 2017 2:42:37 PM PDT, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>				You can also get a limited power of attourney for just about
>anything and for a specific duration, like if you were selling a house
>and couldn't be there for closing, you could have a power of atourney
>stating that during x time y person could do the following things. 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jen via
>NAGDU
>Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:57 PM
>To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
><nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Jen <spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Service dog in Japan
>
>Hi Gary,
>
>During my medical transcription course, we discussed power-of-attorney
>issues. A power of attorney does give a person decision-making power
>over one's health care decisions, in the event the patient loses
>decision-making capability.
>
>Jen
>
>spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
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>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Steeves
>via NAGDU
>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 4:20 PM
>
>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
><nagdu at nfbnet.org>; Heather Bird via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; NAGDU
>Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
><nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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>Cc: Gary Steeves <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
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>Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Service dog in Japan
>
>hi:
>
>yes, some sort of legal clarification would be required.  Power of
>Attorney generally refers to giving a person power to manage your
>financial matters, it does not generally  give people power over a
>person's health care DECISIONS or personal decisions, so I'm curious
>what is meant by this and what is the purpose of it.
>
>Gary
>
>
>On May 10, 2017 12:29:00 PM PDT, Heather Bird via NAGDU
><nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>Oh my god! That is horrifying! Over my dead body! Yes, please. Could 
>>someone with legal qualifications please explain for us what that 
>>means?
>>I have no problem with the whole IGDF, contacting the Japanese guide 
>>dog school thing. However, if that is true about assigning a power of
>a 
>>tourney for your dog, then they can just stuff it and I'll not go, or 
>>I'll go without my dog. I am really hoping that this is a 
>>misunderstanding, because the implications are really disgusting, not 
>>only for what could happen to the dog, but also for how that speaks to
>
>>how blind people are treated and thought of. Yikes!
>>
>>
>>On 5/10/2017 3:22 PM, Peter Wolf via NAGDU wrote:
>>> We have decided not to go to Japan with service dogs, because aside
>>from their requirements, we read  that a traveler must also sign over 
>>power of attorney for the animal to the authorities upon entry.  My 
>>legal understand of this means if for any reason, someone whether for 
>>wholesome reasons or not, decides not to let you have your dog, it’s
>no 
>>longer your dog.
>>>
>>> I’d appreciate comments from someone who understands legality.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>>    1. travelling to Japan revisited (Dan Weiner)
>>>>    2. Re: Hello, An Introduction from Heather With Ilsa (Danielle
>>Ledet)
>>>>    3. Update On My Girl (Dani Pagador)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 18:07:00 -0400
>>>> From: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>Users"
>>>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] travelling to Japan revisited
>>>> Message-ID: <b361c059-9950-4532-353f-073b7ae652d7 at dcwein.cnc.net>
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>>>>
>>>> Hello, beautiful people and dogs.
>>>>
>>>> Dan here.
>>>>
>>>> Well I think the subject of guide dogs in Japan and traveling their
>
>>>> accompanied by a guide dog was dealt with recently.
>>>>
>>>> By coincidence I've been in contact with a very energetic,
>>resourceful
>>>> and intelligent  young guy from NYC who wants to maybe study or
>>visit
>>>> there.  He has a guide dog and though I went from 2001 to 2003 my
>>info
>>>> is of course  not up to date. His vet actually seems very
>>knowledgeable
>>>> and had to apparently help another client with a service dog...but
>I 
>>>> thought he might find it useful to speak with someone who has
>>traveled
>>>> there more recently than I.  Anyone who has done this, I seem to 
>>>> remember there was one person who had, let me know if you're
>willing
>>to
>>>> be in touch with this fellow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apparently it would seem that one additional requirement since my
>>days
>>>> of stomping around there was that if you have a guide dog you must
>>have
>>>> info sent to the Japan guide Dog Association from your school so
>>they
>>>> issue you a temporary guide dog id, the JGDa is a guide dog school,
>>I
>>>> will refrain form making comments on this as I had to deal with the
>
>>>> beginnings of that process when I wetn there. Suffice it to say
>that 
>>>> they want your school to be affiliated to the International
>>Federation
>>>> of Guide Dog Schools and if not they seem not interested in issuing
>>this
>>>> card.  So, though the Japan restrictions puzzle and annoy me, I do
>>want
>>>> to help this guy if he is determined to have this experience and
>>want
>>>> him to be successful.
>>>>
>>>> So anyone wants to talk to him or to me, my email:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll give out his contact only on request.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sun, 7 May 2017 17:19:53 -0600
>>>> From: Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
>>Users"
>>>> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hello, An Introduction from Heather With Ilsa
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>
>>	<CAMxXqEQ_wJOAtOBs_LjZGGBe0m3G8oc9rkdiz1vt8-7wxMRvMg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> Welcome Heather. You will fit right in here. Now all we gotta do is
>
>>>> get Raven Tolliver back talking and we'll have a nice balance!
>>>>
>>>> On 5/6/17, margo Downey via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Well, Heather and Ilsa, you all know by now that you can reply and
>>it'll go
>>>>> everywhere Nagdu people are.  (smile).
>>>>>
>>>>> Margo and Isis
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Heather
>>Bird via
>>>>> NAGDU
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:34 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>Users
>>>>> Cc: Heather Bird
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hello, An Introduction from Heather With Ilsa
>>>>>
>>>>>      Oh, yay! Its a Margo and an Isis. You can be my ghinny pig. I
>>am
>>>>> trying to figure out if reply goes to just the sender or to the
>>whole list.
>>>>> If no one else on list replies to this, then I will know that it
>>went to
>>>>> you only. I know some lists require you to hit reply all to get it
>>to the
>>>>> list, and others have the default of reply going to the whole
>list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS, Ilsa says "Hey, Isis, tell your mommy not to go donating any
>>more money
>>>>> to my crazy mom. She dragged me to this silly park and there was
>>this nice
>>>>> walk we went on, but then she made me do the loop again, and then
>>this even
>>>>> smaller loop around the pond. She wouldn't let me chew on the
>ducks
>>or the
>>>>> geese and there were all of these other rude people running who
>>wouldn't
>>>>> let me catch up with them and be first. Maybe if people stop
>giving
>>my
>>>>> mommy money she'll not make me do that again."
>>>>> *wagging* "Nah, actually it was really fun, maybe you come walk
>>with us
>>>>> next year, just don't try to retrieve the ducks. Rusti says ducks
>>are for
>>>>> retrieving, but I think they look like more for chewing. You're a
>>Labrador,
>>>>> well, you're a cross, so you be our tie breaker, are ducks for
>>retrieving
>>>>> or for chewing? PSST, say chewing, or I'll chew on your ears a
>>little when
>>>>> I see you at convention. Kidding, sort of." *more wagging*"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/5/2017 10:26 PM, margo Downey via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>> Hey, Heather, welcome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The 
>>>>>> Pawpower Pack via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 4:53 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>Users
>>>>>> Cc: The Pawpower Pack
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hello, An Introduction from Heather With
>Ilsa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Heather!
>>>>>> Welcome to the list.  I'm Rox, am Deafblind, and my current
>>working
>>>>>> service dog is Soleil, a 6 year old yellow lab.  She is owner
>>trained.
>>>>>> I also have Laveau, a 10 year old Doberman who still works from
>>time
>>>>>> to time, so Soleil can practice staying home alone!  WE also
>share
>>our
>>>>>> home with Mill'E, who is a almost 15 year old golden.  Sometimes 
>>>>>> Mill'E makes me put the harness on her so she can stand around
>and 
>>>>>> feel official but mostly her job is to keep my feet warm.
>>>>>> We live in New Orleans where I am an independent contractor doing
>>any
>>>>>> number of different things.
>>>>>> Hope you enjoy the list!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>>>>>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>>>>>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 5, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Jen via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Heather,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome! My name is Jen. Although I am not a guide dog user, I
>am 
>>>>>>> interested in all things guide dog! I look forward to your
>posts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> spiderweb1 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>Heather
>>>>>>> Bird via NAGDU
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 3:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Cc: Heather Bird <heather.l.bird at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Hello, An Introduction from Heather With Ilsa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello. My name is Heather and I have a Seeing Eye dog named
>Ilsa.
>>She
>>>>>>> is a black and tan German Shepherd Dog. She just turned two
>>around
>>>>>>> Thanks Giving of 2016. She is my second guide from the Seeing
>>Eye, my
>>>>>>> fourth GSD. I have previously had shepherds from Fidelco Guide
>>Dog
>>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>>>> I am a mother of two boys, who are both visually impaired. My
>>mother
>>>>>>> is also blind and also a guide dog handler. My husband and my
>>father
>>>>>>> are both sighted. I am a member of NYAGDU, as are my mother and
>>my
>>>>>> husband.
>>>>>>> I am also the chapter president for our local NFB chapter in 
>>>>>>> Rochester
>>>>>> NY.
>>>>>>> Ilsa is very bright, a bit softer than my first TSE shepherd,
>>Frieda,
>>>>>>> but just as smart. My husband has an owner-trained psychiatric 
>>>>>>> service dog, a seven-year-old smooth coat collie named Dante. He
>>is a
>>>>>>> sable and he is a very soft, very intuitive sweet dog. My mother
>>has
>>>>>>> a black lab named Octane from the Seeing Eye. I have her
>>permission
>>>>>>> to disclose this fact and as many of my best guide dog stories 
>>>>>>> involve both her and my dogs, you may see mention of Octane from
>>time to
>>>>> time.
>>>>>>> I am also a member of IAADP. I am an attachment parent, student
>>of
>>>>>>> social work, stay-at-home mom and a member of API, and LLLI. I
>am 
>>>>>>> supportive of owner trainers, handlers of small breed service
>>dogs,
>>>>>>> handlers with invisible disabilities. I am a big advocate of
>>informed
>>>>>>> choice in guide dog training program selection, and a big
>>proponent
>>>>>>> of the rights and responsibilities of all service dog handlers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the nuts and bolts of me as a handler. Please feel free
>to
>>ask
>>>>>>> if you have any additional questions.
>>>>>>>
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>
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 01:32:18 -1000
>>>> From: Dani Pagador <axs.brl at gmail.com>
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Update On My Girl
>>>> Message-ID:
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>>>>
>>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>>> Peg was on Deremaxx and her limp seemed more pronounced, she seemed
>
>>>> more anxious, and wasn't right digestively. I asked the doctor what
>
>>>> the other alternative was, and she said I could either go back to 
>>>> Previcox or try Rimadyl. I opted for the Rimadyl, though she did
>>well
>>>> on the Previcox.
>>>>
>>>> She's been on the new meds for a week, but her appetite's been
>>sketchy
>>>> at best. She threw up Sunday night and Monday morning, and doc put
>>her
>>>> on a bland diet. She ate willingly, but I had to make homemade
>broth 
>>>> and rice--she wouldn't touch the canned stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Her loss of appetite started Thursday, though she drank water and 
>>>> wanted to go out. She didn't seem dehydrated, but by Saturday I was
>
>>>> worked something was up. David took her to the vet and we found out
>
>>>> that her kidneys are functioning at 25 percent. She's being given 
>>>> fluids at home, is drinking, and hardly eats.
>>>>
>>>> We take her back to the vet tomorrow, but David and I talked about 
>>>> needing to let her go. She's herself mentally, but not physically.
>>>> It's been hard to watch her not eat, and I can't see having to
>watch 
>>>> her starve herself just so selfish Dani can keep her girl around.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to write this without crying, but it hits hard at 
>>>> unexpected moments. What did I not see? She's been on kidney diet
>>food
>>>> since December, and doc says kidney failure comes in older dogs.
>>>>
>>>> She's lived a good long life, has been, and still is faithful, and 
>>>> will always be my girl. Tight-fisted Dani wants to squeeze every
>>last
>>>> moment she can get with Peg. Am I being mean to keep her around?
>>Will
>>>> I be a bad Mom to put her to sleep just because she won't be able
>to 
>>>> eat and things will get harder for her, bah the
>>no-pain-for-CRF-thing.
>>>>
>>>> All of this to ask you guys to hold your babies close, love them
>>long,
>>>> and love them hard.
>>>>
>>>> More Later,
>>>> Dani, rambling, struggling with herself, grateful for your support
>>>>
>>>>
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