[NAGDU] time to think about which guide dog school to apply to

Fri May 19 20:59:09 UTC 2017

I am a pilot owner.

Original message:
> I realize that Pilot Dogs has not been referred too, but it is in Ohio and
> they have a new facility.  I don't know about ownership, but my last 2
> guides have been from Pilot and they work fine.

> I chose Pilot specifically because I swore I would never fly again after my
> last flight with my guide.  I was forced down a hallway and searched for
> absolutely no reason.  When I explained that Amos's harness was setting off
> the alarm and the TSA people wouldn't listen, I had enough of their stuff!
> Have you considered Columbus sent you don't want to fly?

> Have a great day!

> Bob Hicks

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> Depending upon where you live, another good option is Freedom Guide Dogs.
> Two reasons I suggest them is that they transfer ownership upon completion
> of training and provide only community placement. In other words, they come
> to you. They have no facilities to house consumers, as they focus strictly
> on providing training in your own community.

>         I would also like to recommend, as others have stated, you check out
> ownership policies. I believe ownership has distinct advantages. Not only do
> you need to never worry about your dog being taken away without cause, you
> have the confidence that, when you need help, you do not have any concern
> they will think you are a poor handler and remove the dog. Be wary of
> Fidelco which states you own your dog after six months but contractually
> assert they have the right to repossess the dog at any time and for any
> reason at their sole and absolute discretion. No matter what they call it,
> this is not ownership!

> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala

> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National Federation of
> the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG

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> Tray to gather information about the top 3 schools you might be interested
> in going that. Some schools do grant ownership after two years of working
> with a guide. TSE and GDB grant ownership but I'm not sure about GDF. It
> doesn't hurt to talk to staff at some of the schools so that you can make an
> informed choice. Some of us would be happy to share our experiences with
> you, but as you know, the decision is yours. Smiles. I wish you the best
> with your school search!

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> Date: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:06 pm
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] time to think about which guide dog school to apply to

>> TSE, Leader, and GDF are all good.  First you have to decide what you
>> want from a school because not all schools are the same when it comes
>> to training.
>> Jordan
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>> to

>> Hello List,

>> this week my pet dog Sadie passed over the rainbow bridge.  She was 15
> years
>> old and we had a wonderful life together. She is playing with her cat
>> sisters who have gone before her. I will miss her and am still sad,
>> but
> she
>> is no longer suffering so I'm at peace.

>> As my vision waned over the years, I became more and more interested
>> in getting a guide dog, but sadie who was an APL rescue didn't like
>> other
> dogs.
>> I did get O&m training to maintain my independence and have been using
>> my skills and now I am ready to apply for a guide.

>> I have been surfing the guide dog school websites and reading posts
>> from here and elsewhere about different guide dog schools and am now
>> trying to sort things out.

>> Several schools at the top of my list do not grant full ownership.
>> This concerns me, but other than that I like the schools.  One school
>> that does grant ownership is in California.  I live in Ohio and don't
>> want to be on
> a
>> plane for a long time.  that may be silly, but I can't get over it.

>> So'''I would appreciate Listers input/opinions/guidance/thoughts on my
>> situation.

>> the school I really like is Guiding eyes for the Blind.  They do not
>> grant ownership at all, but I have not heard/read  anything negative about
> them.
> I
>> doubt they are in business to develop teams only to take the dog away.

>> My intent is not to debate ownership issues.  I want to learn Listers'
>> experiences with nonownership schools with the focus on GEB.

>> Thanks for any input.

>> Brenda

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