[NAGDU] OFF NAGDU List ownership

[Charlene Ota]

One more thing about Seeing Eye and ownership. I got a dog from Seeing Eye
granted it's been a long time ago, and opted to take ownership of him. He
was a wonderful dog, he just had terrible allergies living in the climate
where I was living at the time. There wasn't much we could do about his
situation so Seeing Eye took him back and if I'm not mistaken he was
reissued as well. I would think even with ownership, there are friendly
situations where the dog is returned for good reasons.

Charlene

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From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wayne & Harley
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:36 PM
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Cc: Wayne & Harley <k9dad at k9di.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] OFF NAGDU List ownership

Hello Brenda,
As Jeff mentioned, your message to Marion went to the entire list.
Secondly, from what my understanding is. TSSE cannot reclaim a dog, but, 
they can refer a case of suspected abuse/neglect to local Animal Control 
officials.

Wayne And Harey


On 5/19/2017 8:21 PM, Brenda via NAGDU wrote:
> Hi Marion,
>
> I'm writing off list.
>
> In a perfect world all guide dog schools would give instant ownership. 
> Because I'm not impressed with the schools that do, and those I am 
> interested in do not, I am willing to make compromises. Also, I have 
> heard from someone who had their TSE guide removed and TSE gives full 
> ownership so it would appear even with full ownership there could be 
> issues.
>
> I respect and agree with you about ownership, but practical 
> application wins out for me. The benefits will have to outweigh the 
> risks as it were.
>
> I do respect your opinion so am sharing my comments and questions with 
> you.
>
> Southeastern has in addition to the 11-yr retirement rule, a provision 
> where they can reclaim the dog before 5 years if the team isn't 
> working.  I realize there is an expense to train a dog, but it is one 
> more trauma for a handler who may have a situation where they can no 
> longer work - if they had full ownership, this would not happen. I 
> think they also have some other stipulations regarding ownership. My 
> friend who has a guide from Southeastern said they have had incidents 
> where they felt it necessary to make these provisions.
>
> I am curious if you could tell me if you have ever run across a recent 
> situation where a handler from Guiding Eyes for the Blind had their 
> dog removed?   If so, can you give me a summary of what happened? I 
> can ask GEB, but I am interested in an outside source such as yourself.
>
> I have not made a final decision, and appreciate your input.
>
> Sincerely,
> Brenda
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