[NAGDU] Gentle Leader

Sun Nov 12 17:03:21 UTC 2017

Out of curiosity, why not use steady down or something similar? It works for
me most of the time. I use the TSE GL only when he appears so distracted
from work that he poses a problem or he gets excited beyond control.

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Yep, you can 100% use the harness.  He is able to eat and drink with no
problem.  It is somewhat similar to the gl other than where the leash hooks
on.  It also has a little clip to hook to the chain of his collar in case he
is able to get it off.  He can get it off on occasion, but not that often.
Sully is a puller with a fast pace too so the pp really helps that.  I will
try and find it on Amazon and post the link.

Hope this helps, Janell  

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle Leader

Original Ok when I did the canny collar I was told she couldn't see from her
rite eye.
So I put the gentle leader back on her.
Tell me more how does this help her pace.
Oh if you could shake hands with my dog giggle.
If she wasn't wearing the leader I would need skates.
The problem here is on my left foot there is bone and skin.
I have had to slow her down or the foot gets mad.
Oh yes I wouldn't wish the pain it has to offer.
Even wearing a shoe with padding, I still limp.
I am so pleased you can still have the harness on the dog.
In the description it said what I thought you would need to put on the body
of the dog.
I thought then I wouldn't be able to use the harness.
She still can drink rite?
I love the idea the leash goes down the back.
Nothing hangs under the chin like the leader does.
With the leader she would can't push it off, with the canny collar she was
good at pushing it off.
Does this happpen to you having to put it on again because your dog pushed
it off.
Thanks again,
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> I actually like the perfect pace when I am walking better than the gl.  
> It goes around the nose but the hook where you attach the leash is at 
> the back of the neck (a few inches down from his ears) rather than in 
> front under his muzzle like the gl.  I like it because it allows you 
> to give a quick correction without having him turn his head.  It goes 
> on sort of like a figure 8.  It most definitely keeps his pace in 
> check.  I use the gl for going in restaurants, out shopping, church 
> etc. but the pp for all of our walking routs.

> Hope that helps, Janell and Sully

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> Original Please tell me more about the perfect pace.
> I have never heard of this before,
> How does the dog wear it, and does dog need both pace as well as leader?
> I wonder how this goes on and how does it keep dog in the pace you wish?
> Thanks so much.
> You also use the harness.
> Thanks,
> Julie Johnson is this another item you also sell?

> message:
>> I use the gl for Sully too.  I also really like the perfect pace
collar...
>> keeps him focused and especially helps with his walking too fast.  
>> You can get the perfect pace from Amazon for around $20.

>> Janell and Sully

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>> Here I thought you were going to say you sell them. Making something 
>> on your own.
>> You are so tallented it is unreal.
>> I just love it.
>> When I used the canney collar wich I love the best with the leash 
>> hanging down their back I was told she couldn't see out of her rite eye.
>> I took several gentle leaders with me to the school just encase she 
>> decided it was a good thing to chew it once again as she did when I 
>> was getting her from the school the first time.
>> She will still sniff persons when she can, where for the most part 
>> she works well, knowing that this is her job to do that.
>> Now we are walking on ice and snow, she is doing quite well keeping a 
>> slow pace.
>> I give her credit for that.
>> Original message:
>>> I have the gentle leader style of head collar with the nose padding.
>>> Coastal makes them and they are called a Comfort Head Collar or 
>>> something like that.  Gentle Leader is a specific brand, but 
>>> everyone uses
>> it to mean
>>> any head collar.   Anyway if you look at local pet stores, you should be
>>> able to find it.

>>> Julie
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>>> From: Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 9:57 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Gentle Leader

>>> Hi Rachel, I use a gentle leader on Darcy and she does the same. She 
>>> doesn't like it but the funny thing is that when she has it on she 
>>> works wonderfully and when she has it off she is a different dog.

>>> My GL has the padding on the top of the nose piece like you described.
>>> I got Darcy from Pilot Dogs.

>>> I saw the same Gentle Leader at my Petco.

>>> Ricky Joe & Darcy In Portland Oregon

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>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Gentle Leader

>>> Hello, All:

>>> I have a question about gentle leaders.  This last weekend, at our 
>>> NFB state convention, I used my gentle leader with Demi while we 
>>> were in the hotel because I knew that she would be very excited 
>>> about all the guide dogs.  She kept trying to rub the thing off, 
>>> which is not unusual, but then when I decided that she was calm 
>>> enough and took it off of her, she still kept trying to rub her face 
>>> on
me for awhile.
>>> She did the same thing the next time we used the GL, acting as if 
>>> her muzzle was itching or sore because of the GL.

>>> I got my GL from The Seeing Eye.  It is actually my second because I 
>>> lost the first one they gave me and had to replace it.
>>> The first GL had padding around the muzzle, but this one does not; 
>>> when I asked about this, I was told that they don't make this 
>>> particular brand with padding anymore because the padding seemed to 
>>> be irritating the dogs.  Demi definitely seems more bothered by this 
>>> GL than she did with the last one, however.  I know that the problem 
>>> isn't the tightness because I have tried loosening it with the same 
>>> result, and it wasn't ridiculously tight to begin with.

>>> Does anyone have suggestions on other gentle leaders which might 
>>> work better? I don't think I want to use this one anymore.

>>> Thank you, and all best!

>>> Rachel and Demi, Who is Still Young and Excitable Enough to 
>>> Occasionally Need a Gentle Leader

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