[NAGDU] Loose Dog

Wed Nov 22 16:30:39 UTC 2017

Most police departments have a public relations person. I would contact them and discuss the situation because they are a good intermediary for the problem.

JODY

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> On Nov 22, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Rachel Grider via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I think you guys are right about the police not caring. Even though I explained my situation, I am pretty sure that the officer I talked to did not understand. Do you guys think that I should follow up with anyone with this issue? Now that NFB has this resolution on dog attacks, is someone documenting situations like this? I know this wasn't exactly a dog attack, but it was an incident of interference...
> 
> Our local animal service actually does not generally put animals down unless there is a really good reason. They said that since this pitbull really was not aggressive, just overexuberant, and they were going to put him up for adoption. I'm sure someone will take him, and most likely, the person who takes and will be an awful dog owner who teaches him to be aggressive… or perhaps not. I think that if someone takes the time to train him well, he will be a great dog.
> 
> At first, I was pretty ruthless to try to get him off of Demi; I didn't hit him with my leash, but I did do almost everything else you describe. If he had been trying to hurt my dog, I know I would have tried to do everything possible to get him off of her. But I guess I'm too soft when it comes to friendly dogs, even when they are annoying.
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 07:29, Vivianna via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m sorry to say but, i am pretty ruthless when stuff like this happens to me.
>> i will do whatever it takes to get the dog away from me and my guide.
>> that includes shooing it away, stomping feet, saying no in a firm voice, hitting the strange dog with the buckle end of my leash, kicking the dog, crossing a busy street in hopes that the dog won’t follow, etc.
>> i have absolutely no sympathy for loose dogs that could be potentially dangerous.  if the owner doesn’t care enough about their dog to keep it leashed or fenced, then, i don’t care either.
>> harsh, but, it works.
>> i agree, the police don’t care about loose dogs.  unless they attack a person and, then, it’s after the fact.
>> 
>> Vivianna
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's not too surprising.  They're probably thinking in terms of a loose
>>> dog following someone, and not in terms of how much trouble that can be for
>>> a blind person who needs their guide not to be bothered or distracted. It
>>> requires an extra step in thinking, and most sighted people don't take that
>>> extra step, in my experience.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:32 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Star Gazer
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
>>> 
>>>               I'm not sure the police care. Not to be
>>> unkind, I just don't think they do. 
>>> I've noticed that when I used dogs, the police never cared about dog related
>>> issues, conversely they care greatly about non dog related issues. 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ricky Joe Cook
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 12:21 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Ricky Joe Cook <rickyjoecook at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
>>> 
>>> Rachel, I would have called the police and said that you were blind and you
>>> had a dog bothering you and your guide dog and that you were stranded
>>> because you couldn't safely work your dog because the other dog wouldn't go
>>> away and that it was trying to mount your dog. They may have been able to
>>> come and get the dog away from you long enough for you to continue on your
>>> way. Plus they might have been able to find out who the dog belonged to and
>>> have given them a ticket for having a dog off leash if that applys where you
>>> live.
>>> 
>>> Just a thought.
>>> 
>>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rachel Grider via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:22 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Rachel Grider
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
>>> 
>>> Hi, Guys:
>>> 
>>> I hope you and your dogs are doing well.
>>> 
>>> Demi and I had a somewhat scary and annoying experience yesterday.  As we
>>> were walking only about a block away from my house, a loose pit bull came
>>> charging up to us.  Luckily, he wasn't aggressive, but he literally would
>>> not leave Demi alone; he kept trying to mount her, and, though I did
>>> everything to try and get him to leave us alone, he kept following us.  I
>>> would shoo him away, and he would back off for a second, allowing Demi and I
>>> to resume our progress, but then Demi would literally stop and turn around
>>> while in harness because her little buddy would be trying to mount her
>>> again.  No amount of correcting Demi or shooing him would get him to leave.
>>> Demi actually gave him a couple unfriendly barks, which is something I have
>>> never heard her do, but it didn't phase him.
>>> 
>>> We continued like this for another block before I decided that it was just
>>> too unsafe to do it anymore, so I called animal control.
>>> To make a long story short, a couple ladies saw me having trouble with the
>>> dog, got a leash, and put him in their yard to wait for animal control to
>>> pick him up.  Apparently, it took three hours for someone to come, and if it
>>> hadn't been for these ladies, I don't know what I would have done, as the
>>> whole episode almost made me late for work as it was, and I would not have
>>> been able to wait that long.
>>> 
>>> So my question to you guys is: What have you done in a situation where a dog
>>> with no owner around continually interferes with your dog's work no matter
>>> what you do? I will also mention that I even tried giving him commands like
>>> "sit" and "down," but he didn't seem to understand; after I had determined
>>> that he really was friendly, I found that I could get him to chill by
>>> petting his head, but as soon as I would stop, he would go right back to
>>> messing with Demi.  I suppose I should have had my cane with me, which is
>>> something I try to do anyway, but I will make a point to have one in my
>>> backpack all the time from now on.  Even if I had been able to get away from
>>> him, I would not have wanted to just leave him to possibly get hit by a car
>>> or to bother other people.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I appreciate any thoughts you may have.
>>> 
>>> Happy Thanksgiving!
>>> 
>>> Rachel
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