[NAGDU] Loose Dog

Wed Nov 22 16:59:59 UTC 2017

Same here.  All bets are off if a dog comes after my dog.
Jordan

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Loose Dog

I’m sorry to say but, i am pretty ruthless when stuff like this happens to me.
i will do whatever it takes to get the dog away from me and my guide.
that includes shooing it away, stomping feet, saying no in a firm voice, hitting the strange dog with the buckle end of my leash, kicking the dog, crossing a busy street in hopes that the dog won’t follow, etc.
i have absolutely no sympathy for loose dogs that could be potentially dangerous.  if the owner doesn’t care enough about their dog to keep it leashed or fenced, then, i don’t care either.
harsh, but, it works.
i agree, the police don’t care about loose dogs.  unless they attack a person and, then, it’s after the fact.

Vivianna

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That's not too surprising.  They're probably thinking in terms of a 
> loose dog following someone, and not in terms of how much trouble that 
> can be for a blind person who needs their guide not to be bothered or 
> distracted. It requires an extra step in thinking, and most sighted 
> people don't take that extra step, in my experience.
> Tracy
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> 				I'm not sure the police care. Not to be unkind, I just don't think 
> they do.
> I've noticed that when I used dogs, the police never cared about dog 
> related issues, conversely they care greatly about non dog related issues.
> 
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> 
> Rachel, I would have called the police and said that you were blind 
> and you had a dog bothering you and your guide dog and that you were 
> stranded because you couldn't safely work your dog because the other 
> dog wouldn't go away and that it was trying to mount your dog. They 
> may have been able to come and get the dog away from you long enough 
> for you to continue on your way. Plus they might have been able to 
> find out who the dog belonged to and have given them a ticket for 
> having a dog off leash if that applys where you live.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:22 PM
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> Cc: Rachel Grider
> Subject: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
> 
> Hi, Guys:
> 
> I hope you and your dogs are doing well.
> 
> Demi and I had a somewhat scary and annoying experience yesterday.  As 
> we were walking only about a block away from my house, a loose pit 
> bull came charging up to us.  Luckily, he wasn't aggressive, but he 
> literally would not leave Demi alone; he kept trying to mount her, 
> and, though I did everything to try and get him to leave us alone, he 
> kept following us.  I would shoo him away, and he would back off for a 
> second, allowing Demi and I to resume our progress, but then Demi 
> would literally stop and turn around while in harness because her 
> little buddy would be trying to mount her again.  No amount of correcting Demi or shooing him would get him to leave.
> Demi actually gave him a couple unfriendly barks, which is something I 
> have never heard her do, but it didn't phase him.
> 
> We continued like this for another block before I decided that it was 
> just too unsafe to do it anymore, so I called animal control.
> To make a long story short, a couple ladies saw me having trouble with 
> the dog, got a leash, and put him in their yard to wait for animal 
> control to pick him up.  Apparently, it took three hours for someone 
> to come, and if it hadn't been for these ladies, I don't know what I 
> would have done, as the whole episode almost made me late for work as 
> it was, and I would not have been able to wait that long.
> 
> So my question to you guys is: What have you done in a situation where 
> a dog with no owner around continually interferes with your dog's work 
> no matter what you do? I will also mention that I even tried giving 
> him commands like "sit" and "down," but he didn't seem to understand; 
> after I had determined that he really was friendly, I found that I 
> could get him to chill by petting his head, but as soon as I would 
> stop, he would go right back to messing with Demi.  I suppose I should 
> have had my cane with me, which is something I try to do anyway, but I 
> will make a point to have one in my backpack all the time from now on.  
> Even if I had been able to get away from him, I would not have wanted 
> to just leave him to possibly get hit by a car or to bother other people.
> 
> Anyway, I appreciate any thoughts you may have.
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving!
> 
> Rachel
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