[NAGDU] Puppies Behind Bars - New Yorker

S L Johnson SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
Mon Nov 27 15:04:15 UTC 2017


Hi Sherry:

I agree with you.  When I was asked by a school if I would accept a dog 
raised in a prison I told the trainer absolutely no!  If it was the best 
guide dog that ever was, I would not accept a prison raised dog.  I cannot 
imagine my sweet golden girl raised by a criminal,  what an awful thought. 
Just the thought of these innocent puppies raised by a criminal is 
disgusting and unacceptable to me.  The thinking these days is to rehab 
prisoners but to me all it is a way for them to get free educations, time 
off for completing their education and raising puppies is a privilege.  If 
they had not committed a crime they could go to school or get any job 
including working with dogs.  However, I think the guide and service dog 
schools should not allow these precious puppies near this criminals.  They 
need to place the puppies in safe loving homes not in a prison!  I cannot 
believe that the schools find themselves so desperate that they resort to 
allowing criminals near these puppies.  Shame on you guide and service dog 
schools! Please,  please think of the safety of your puppies!  I know both 
of us will get angry messages from the monitor of the list as well as other 
list members but this is a free country with freedom of speech so you and I 
are entitled to our opinion on this subject.

Sandra Johnson and precious golden Eva
SLJohnson25 at comcast.net

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sherry Gomes via NAGDU
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:11 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Sherry Gomes
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Puppies Behind Bars - New Yorker

I took one of my dogs to prison with my church choir a long long time ago.
We went to a minimum security prison. The guys were very happy to see my
dog. Another time, I went with my cousin to see her ex-husband, who was in
San Quentin for drug charges. We met in a big room with lots of prisoners
and their guests, and one woman asked if her husband could say hi to my dog.
He was a lifer and had already been there 15 years so hadn't seen a dog in a
very long time. He cried and cried when he petted my dog. Having said all
that, I would not want a dog raised in prison. I knew a woman who had one,
and the dog was fabulous. But years ago, I read the book small Miracles by
ann Rule. Near the end, she mentioned that on one of her visits to Diane
Downs for interviews, Downs was raising a puppy to be a service dog. Downs
never showed any remorse about murdering one of her children and trying to
murder all three. So I felt she had no right to the privilege of raising a
dog. If GDB ever started having their dogs raised in prison, I'd tell them I
definitely do not want one of those dogs. It might be a dumb attitude, but
the idea that people like Diane Downs, or anyone like her,  could raise a
dog I might get is terrible to me.


Sherry


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
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Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:45 PM
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Cc: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Puppies Behind Bars - New Yorker

One of the prisons here in Iowa used to work with dogs as did the women's
prison, but I can't remember if they were training them for a program. I
t got too crowded for them to have a good facility. When I went to the
women's prison once to participate in the church service there, several
looked longingly at Fisher and said, "awe", but they had been instructed not
to mess with him. I was sort of sorry they had been.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shari Cook via
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Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:41 PM
To: David via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Shari Cook <kalilee at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Puppies Behind Bars - New Yorker

America's VetDogs (a sister organization to the Guide Dog Foundation for
the Blind in Smithtown, NY) has puppy raisers in prison - they are
imprisoned veterans that raise pups specifically for other veterans to
provide them with enhanced mobility and renewed independence.  As with GDF,
there is no cost to get a pup.  The dogs spend their weekdays being trained
by honor prisoners and go to a family on weekends for social exposure.  The
pups typically stay at the prison for 12 to 18 months, then go off to "puppy
college" for their specific formal training which lasts approximately 4
months.  I raise puppies for GDF and we often cross train with the VetDogs
program.  It's amazing to see what these animals can do, from finding the
button to open a handicapped entrance, to pushing an elevator button, or
opening and closing doors, pulling laundry baskets, waking a veteran that's
having flashbacks, to just being a general companion and getting the veteran
to be comfortable in the public again.  If anyone needs more information on
the VetDogs program, their website is America's VetDogs | Home

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    On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 5:14:49 PM EST, David via NAGDU
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Cross-posted

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/27/puppies-behind-bars-with-glenn
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*David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL*
*david at bakerinet.com*


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