[NAGDU] CGC test could our dogs do it?

[Vivianna]

Hi All,
So, as most of you know, I am owner-training my five-and-a-half month old dog.  I was interested in perhaps getting him CGC certified just for fun.
While looking up the 10 tests that the dog must pass i was thinking, just how many dogs that come from schools could actually pass this test?  my answer is, unfortunately, not very many at all.
one of the tests is to have the dog hold either a sit or down from 20 feet away and remain there until the tester tells you to call the dog to you.
and, at no time during the testing is the handler allowed to use treats or toys to get the dog to perform.  Also, no training gear such as, head collars or prong collars can be used. 
All of my dogs except my last one could have passed this test but, my last dog could not have held the stay at all.
my puppy can hold the stay inside now and for a short time outside with me only about 5 feet from him.  and, he works totally without treats or toys or clickers etc.  his recall isn’t that great yet we are still on the flexy leash.
on the website where i was looking up the CGC  test, it states that, if the dog can not perform the tasks without treats or training gear then they do not consider him fully trained.
Just thought this might spark some interesting discussion.

Vivianna
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