[NAGDU] religious organizations and guide dogs

Mon Oct 2 18:26:30 UTC 2017

But Sunshine, why aren't the dogs allowed in the temple services? Is it like
the Muslims, or is it the reasoning you gave before. The reasoning you gave
in the other message is rationalization of a policy to me.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com

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Yes, you can leave a dog in a kennel or someone who doesn't have a Temple
Recommend. People have done that. They're just not allowed in the Temple
services.

Sunshine and 

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From: Star Gazer via NAGDU  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 11:29 am
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] religious organizations and guide dogs

>
>
> The temple isn't open to the general public, you have to have a 
> recommend to go.
> I'm wondering though if someone could leave their dog at the visitor's 
> center and have a kennel there or one of the volenteers look after it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner 
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 1:22 PM
> To: Yiska via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] religious organizations and guide dogs
> 
> thanks I couldn't remember what it was called, the temple, sorry.
> 
> Dam
> 
> 
> On 9/29/2017 1:15 PM, Yiska via NAGDU wrote:
> > I could take my guide dog to the weekly church services but not into
> > > the temple. This was about 10 years and now I don't practice so I 
> > > am
>  > unsure. Yiska > > On Sep 29, 2017 10:58, "Dan Weiner via NAGDU" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> > wrote: > >> I have been led to believe that the 
> LDS church doesn't allow guide >> dogs in their tabernacle. When I 
> worked in Maryland a co-worker out >> of the blue walked up to me and 
> said "is thee some place that guide >> dogs can stay when they can't 
> accompany their owner"? not really >> knowing what the reason for this 
> was I gave a non-committal answer, >> it turned out one of this lady's 
> relatives wanted to go to a Mormon >> not sure i if it was a church or 
> meeting place or temple or what, >> my apologies, in Washington, and 
> they told them the guide dog >> wouldn't be welcome that in quotes "it 
> would disturb the peace and >> serenity of the ceremony" I'm quoiting, 
> I'm not trying to bash any >> religion. So I answered my colleague 
> something disparaging about >> religion in general which I won't write 
> here, oh heck, I'll write >> it-lol I said that religion is suppose d 
> to preach loving thy >> neighbor as your brother and that that's fine 
> apparently unless >> you have a guide dog. But anyway, so I believe 
> there is a policy, >> I'm sure other religious groups have similar 
> strictures. >>  >> >> Dan the man, Parker the hound dog >> >> >> >> On 
> 9/29/2017 7:23 AM, Star Gazer via NAGDU wrote: >> >>> I checked Tara, 
> and unfortunately you are correct, the LDS web >>> site does have this 
> policy, plain as day on their web site. I am >>> truly sorry. I was 
> really hoping you had a dimwit usher. >>> >>> -----Original 
> Message----- From: NAGDU >>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Tara Briggs via >>> NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 11:35 PM To: NAGDU >>> Mailing 
> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users >>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc:
> Tara Briggs <thflute at gmail.com> Subject: >>> Re: [NAGDU] Forwarded
> Article: This able-bodied dog lover makes >>> a great case against 
> faking service dogs >>> >>> Interesting. But can you make the argument 
> that church meetings >>> are open to the public and the religious 
> exemption does apply
> >>> there. For example, even though the public can walk into a church 
> >>> >>>
> for any service. Can't the church exclude say blind people if >>> they 
> want to? Anyway, in this case, we had to go onto the >>> Internet and 
> get tickets. That's what a friend of mine did and >>> she invited us to
come.
> The tickets were free but you did have  >>> to get them in order to 
> get a seat. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>  >>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 
> 8:23 PM, David via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> >>>
> wrote: >>>> >>>> If the concert is open to the public, the church 
> exception does >>>> not apply. >>>> >>>> ininDavid and Claire Rose in 
> Clearwater, FL*
> >>>> *david at bakerinet.com* >>>> >>>>> On 9/28/2017 7:53 PM, Star Gazer 
> >>>> via
> NAGDU wrote: Even when >>>>> they are open to the public? We have a 
> meeting house (Mormon >>>>> word for church building) that is open to 
> >>>>> >>>> the public for elections, i.e. it is a voting poll. There 
> is no >>>> way they
> >>> could or should restrict someone from going to the voting poll >>> 
> >>> with
> a guide or service dog. >>> >>>>  >>>> >>>> --- This email has been 
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