[NAGDU] Churches and service dogs

Sunshine halogirl817 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 2 18:56:35 UTC 2017 

At one church I attended, someone made a Christmas vest for my Mallory! She looked beautiful, too! Smiles!



Sunshine and 

----- Original Message -----
From: Julie McGinnity via NAGDU  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"  <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date: Saturday, September 30, 2017 12:48 am
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Churches and service dogs

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> I have never had a problem taking my guide dog to church.  Every week
> I've sung on stage with a church choir for years, and both of my dogs
> just came up there with me, no big deal.  They were even going to
> accommodate me when I wanted to bring my dog on stage for our
> Christmas shows.  I chose not to do so, but that was my decision,
> unmotivated by anyone else.  I simply prefer not to work a dog while
> trying to do choreography.
> 
> My first dog had a bed in the choir room where she used to chill while
> we rehearsed.  I'm at a different church now, and my current dog just
> sleeps under the chair.  (To be fair, I couldn't put my first dog
> under those chairs''')
> 
> I've sung weddings in churches, and I've never had a problem with any
> church I've ever entered.  This spring I did visit an LDS church, and
> I was not the only one attending with a service dog.  I was not aware
> that people with disabilities could not bring their service animals
> into the conference centers to the general areas or into the temples,
> though I had wondered about the temples.  Is this policy on their
> website?  It seems reasonable enough to me for the temples...  But the
> conferences?  I will keep an open mind but admit it seems strange to
> me.
> 
> 
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> On 9/29/17, Charlene Ota via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > When I lived in Hawaii, when I got my dog, I was asked "You're not bringing
> > that dog to church are you?"  I brought him with me and some people were
> > disgusted, some were welcoming, some were mad because they couldn't treat
> > him like a pet, but I just toughed it out and did my best to try to
> > educate.
> > Interestingly enough, there was a lady who brought her pet dog to church
> > every Sunday long before I got Irish and that person was always welcome.
> > She
> > claimed she couldn't leave her dog at home because it had anxiety. She was
> > a
> > lawyer who worked with the pastor's wife, maybe that carried more clout
> > than
> > me as a blind person. That aspect of it really made me mad so I just
> > determined my boy was coming to church with me no matter what they had to
> > say about it.  Some people actually learned to respect him and value him. I
> > finally decided to comment after seeing this last comment as that's about
> > how I feel about it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber via
> > NAGDU
> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 4:00 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Churches and service dogs
> >
> > I wonder about how God feels about all of this discrimination of his people
> > and his animals that he put on this Earth. Anyway, crawling back into my
> > hole since I have nothing else to say on this topic.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:38 PM Tara Briggs via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In the conference center, there are several events each year that I
> >> recorded. Those events include Mormon Tabernacle choir concerts and the
> >> twice yearly Mormon general conference. On those events, you were not
> >> allowed to sit in the main area with your service dog. You will either
> > have
> >> to leave or sit in the room apart from everybody else. The Mormon Church
> >> also has temples in which different ordinances such as baptisms for the
> >> dead and temple marriages are performed. You're not allowed to bring your
> >> service dog into the Mormon Temple. On a positive note, you are allowed
> >> to
> >> bring your service animal to church meetings in Mormon meeting houses.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Sep 29, 2017, at 2:23 PM, David Bouchard via NAGDU
> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I know that the LDS church bans service dogs from the main viewing area
> >> from choir concerts, but do they discriminate in other settings?
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> >> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:46 PM, lkeeler--- via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Only once, I had a weird experience. Passed a woman in church with
> >> Holly and she was very scared. But, otherwise, no issues yet. But, this
> >> is
> >> Saint Francis of Assisi Catholic church and because that Saint loved
> >> animals, I'm not really surprised that she is so welcome. Actually, we've
> >> been in other churches and had no issues iether.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Tara Briggs via NAGDU
> >> >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:56 PM
> >> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >> >> Cc: Tara Briggs
> >> >> Subject: [NAGDU] Churches and service dogs
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi everyone! On a previous thread, we have been talking about the
> >> experiences of people with service dogs and churches. In particular, I
> > have
> >> talked about my experience with the Mormon church, or Church of Jesus
> >> Christ of latter-day Saints, and their policies towards service animals.
> >> I
> >> am curious what other people's experiences have been have you had
> >> positive
> >> experiences? What have they been like? Have you had negative experiences?
> >> How have you dealt with them? I look forward to any replies to this
> >> topic!
> >> >> Tara
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri
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