[NAGDU] not sure if this post is allowed but have a question

[Cindy Ray]

Horses are allowed under the law. As for your opinion, given that we have
someone on the list who successfully uses a horse, and given that we get
plenty of discrimination as it is, let's try really hard not to alienate our
own. 
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] not sure if this post is allowed but have a question

Buddy:

My information may be out of date but,a according to the information I have
saved on my computer they changed it to be only dogs as being permitted as
service animals.  I do not have the exact date of my information so if there
is more recent language to the law, can someone post the link so all of us
can have it.

Personally I do not think the mini horse is practical for all situations,
especially as you said in small cars, public transportation restaurants
etc...  However for someone living out in the country with the room to
accommodate a mini horse then even though I do not approve, what you do is
your business.  This conversation does show that better education is
necessary so all places of public accommodation are completely aware of the
latest language to the law.  I am sure that Ann can clear up any
misconceptions that may exist.  My main disapproval comes from being kicked
by a mini horse guide in training that was at a national convention several
years ago.  Both me and my guide dog were injured when we walked too close
behind that horse as we attempted to get out of a very crowded room.  I
suppose since she was still in training her trainer should have been
watching much more closely especially in a crowded room full of blind people
and our dogs.  I am sorry if my opinion is upsetting to anyone.  I would
feel the same way if a guide dog or one in training acts in a dangerous
manner resulting in injury to me and my guide dog.  We do have to be sure
that service animals in training are far enough along with their training
that their behavior is appropriate to be out in public.  Thanks for reading.

Sandra Johnson
SLJohnson25 at comcast.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Buddy Brannan via NAGDU
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:28 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Buddy Brannan
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] not sure if this post is allowed but have a question

Hey Ricky,

Baltimore has nothing to do with this. Miniature horses are, indeed, part of
the ADA definition of service animal.

You are correct, however, that your friends are badly informed. A shocker, I
know, you can pick yourself up off the floor now. Apparently one can house
train a horse. But even besides that, they wear a diaper for those happy fun
horse presents so that your hapless friends don't step in them. They might
also wear little cut down tennis shoes. Anne can address this better, seeing
as how she has a guide horse, and I'm fairly certain her horse doesn't take
a dump wherever it likes for people to just step in.

I'd have more of a concern about the horse at rest, since you can't exactly
put one under your chair since they don't really lie down. If you took an
Uber, I'd think you really *would* ned an SUV at the very least. That would
be more of a hindrance to me, but maybe not.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Mobile (preferred): (814) 431-0962
Phone: (814) 860-3194
Email: buddy at brannan.name



> On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> I read on a FB post that Baltimore has approved miniature horses as 
> service animals in the schools. The person and their friends who were 
> posting were not informed about service animals and were even equating the

> horses to our dogs. I was just wondering how others felt about miniature 
> horses as service animals. They were making comments like oh I guess they 
> are going to let the horses just take a crap any where so we can step in 
> it. It has me really pissed off and upset.
>
> I am sorry if this topic isnb?Tt allowed here if so just let me know. If 
> so feel free to Email me off list rickyjoecook at comcast.net
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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