[NAGDU] VRBO rentals

[Janell]

Hello Wayne,

Thank you for clarifying the "certified" issue.  I am 100% aware that my guide dog ID is in no way a legal document.  With that being said I have absolutely no problem providing it.  I did explain to the owner that I do not have to provide anything but nevertheless I personally have no problem showing it.  And, quite frankly I think if we were asked to provide some form of identification it would cut down on the imposter service animals out there.  I know that statement will most likely open a can of worms, but it is my opinion.  I will not chastise you on your opinion of not sharing an identification, I would like to be afforded the same curtesy.
-Janell   
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From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wayne & Harley via NAGDU
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 12:28 PM
To: Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Wayne & Harley <k9dad at k9di.org>
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] VRBO rentals

*Hello Ms. Janell,
First of all I'm sorry the owner is acting like this about Sully.  BTW: 
the ADA does apply, in this instance, since the rental is less than thirty days.
However, I would like to correct a misconception that you put forth in your post.
Sully is a Service Animal/Guide Dog under the law. He is not, however, a "Certified" Service Animal/Guide Dog. The law does not require, nor recognize such.  Therefore, there is, in the United States at least, no such thing as a "Certified Service Animal/Guide Dog".
More worrisome, is your statement that you were ready to show Sully's "certification". What form does this take? The ID issued to you by your school?? That ID, literally, has zero legal standing. May I ask why would you want to make life more difficult for Service Animal teams that this owner would encounter after your family's time in her home was over? For example, not everyone has a programme trained Service Animal. in fact, outside of the Guide Dog Owning world the VAST majority of Service Animals are Owner Trained. This is for a variety of reasons, that I will not bore you with at this particular point in time. I am, however, one of the ranks of Owner Trainers. My Harley D, while not trained by a programme is fully trained as my Guide Dog. Now, hypothetically, what would happen if I approached the homeowner about a rental for say, April. I informed her about Harley D accompanying me and she demanded "Certification", "just like that nice young person did in February".
     To recap, the homeowner, as per, the ADA, can only ask you the two legal questions.
     Have a fabulous day!

Wayne And Harley D

*On 9/16/2017 2:40 PM, Janell via NAGDU wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
>   
>
> I have a question about renting a VRBO house.  My family has rented 
> one in Florida next Feb for a week.  When I made the reservation the 
> lady told me I could not bring my guide dog Sully.  I explained to her 
> that he was an actual certified guide dog and not one of these crazy 
> imposter ESA dogs.  I even told her I would provide her a copy of his 
> vet records and his certification documentation.  Her response back to 
> me was "someone else who rents from her is allergic to dogs so I would not be able to bring Sully."
> I am not sure of my rights regarding this?  Any thoughts or advice 
> would be appreciated!
>
>   
>
> Very frustrated, Janell and Sully
>
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