[NAGDU] Just caught an organization violating state laws

Wed Aug 15 16:51:30 UTC 2018

 Hi Marianne! Your experience sounds similar to mine. What were the areas where you couldn’t go? I thought that the places where I was restricted from going with my service animal seemed pretty reasonable. The zoo is actually really kind about it!
Tara

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> On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:39 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That will be the end of this discussion. Things should have been handled
> differently; they weren't. Please now leave it alone. If you want to talk
> about laws themselves fine, but let's don't continue being personal or we
> will have an all-out war. This list is to discuss guide dog/service dog
> issues and not to attack one another, even if we didn't mean what we said as
> an attack.
> Thank you all for your cooperation in this matter.
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> cindyray at gmail.com
> p.s. If there is more to say on this personal issue, please talk to me off
> list.
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:00 AM
> To: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Just caught an organization violating state laws
> 
> Jordan,
> 
> In the body of your message, it was not clear you were talking about a state
> law or whether you were talking about a specific locale. Since I use
> shortcut keys to move from message to message for speed and efficiency,
> which is what many people do, the subject line did not inform me, either. In
> other words, by context of the body of your message, it sounded like you
> were talking about a national thing since the organization you referenced is
> quite large.
> 
> If I weren't in a later time zone, I, too, would have responded as if you
> were talking federal, not state, law.
> 
> If you're going to be huffy and get insulting because someone offers you
> helpful information based on what you said in your message, perhaps you
> might try being more clear in your message?
> 
> Otherwise, I'm glad you know the applicable law and are willing to get
> involved in the situation to set things straight.
> 
> Tami
> 
>> On 08/15/2018 07:26 AM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU wrote:
>> You clearly accused me of not knowing the laws in my own state.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe this is totally inappropriate for this list. Many of us are 
>>> not completely cognissant of the laws concerning the dogs in our 
>>> states, or the ADA or housing either. That is why NAGDU has a hot 
>>> line. Just because we aren't cognissant of the laws does not imply that
> we are dumb.
>>> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher 
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 9:14 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher <jordangandbelto at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Just caught an organization violating state laws
>>> 
>>> Tracey,
>>> Are you that dumb to think I do not know the laws in my state?  Shows 
>>> exactly what kind of person you are and how you probably don't even 
>>> know the laws in the state you live in.
>>> Jordan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione 
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:29 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Just caught an organization violating state laws
>>> 
>>> Jordan, are you sure about that?  I think different states have 
>>> different laws regarding SDITs.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan 
>>> Gallacher via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2018 12:08 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Jordan Gallacher
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Just caught an organization violating state laws
>>> 
>>> I was going through Twitter, and I discovered that the Audobon Nature 
>>> Institue has decided to not allow in people training service animals 
>>> nor puppies with their puppy raisers.  This is totally in violation 
>>> of the White Cane Law which in it it states any trainer or puppy 
>>> raiser of the dog has the same rights and privileges as a person with 
>>> a disability would have.  I am on top of this, and going to get them 
>>> to follow the laws that is for sure.
>>> 
>>> Jordan
>>> 
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