[NAGDU] bulkhead seating

Sat Feb 3 18:58:17 UTC 2018

*Hello Brian,
When I flew with Delta last October, on the advice of a SD owner that is 
a retired Delta employee, I called Delta's Disability Services to select 
my seats, I identified that I would be traveling with my Guide Dog and 
Delta waived the extra fee and gave me a free upgrade to the seats that 
I had chosen.
HTH

Wayne And Harley D

k9dad at k9di.org

*On 1/26/2018 11:19 AM, Bryan Gearry via NAGDU wrote:
> Jenine, an interesting phenomenon has happened in regards to 
> "bulkhead" seating. Some airlines use that as premium seating. You 
> have to pay extra. I have experienced that Delta and now Alaska 
> Airlines. My Guide is a enormous Golden. Now I have to pay on some 
> flights a very high price to sit in bulkhead. Delta wanted to charge 
> me close to 300$ for that. AK Air is charging me 75$. I never had to 
> pay extra for bulkhead until about 6 months ago.
>
> Thanks for all the advocacy you do. Keep it up please!   Bryan Gearry
>
>
> On 1/26/2018 3:31 AM, Jenine Stanley via NAGDU wrote:
>> Jordan,
>>
>> Let’s be specific here. Your big dog doesn’t or didn’t fit under a 
>> seat. I’ve had 2 larger dogs who fit just fine under most aircraft 
>> seats and my husband’s first dog was larger than mine. He curled up 
>> nicely under aircraft seats and preferred them to bulkhead. My 
>> smaller dogs spread like dirty laundry in larger spaces.
>>
>> One thing I encourage people to do at home before flying is to 
>> encourage your dog to lie down and under your dining room chair if 
>> possible, or other seats where they can lie completely under the seat 
>> so they get the practice of going into small spaces.
>>
>> Sure, bits and pieces can sneak out but generally, unless there’s an 
>> equipment box under that seat, most dogs can fit.
>>
>> Yes, the commuter jets and some larger jets have their seating 
>> configured so that the bulkhead space is much smaller, floor 
>> space-wise, than under the other seats. Once I point this out to the 
>> flight crew, they usually give up on forcing us to sit there.
>>
>> Just Sayin’.
>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nope they do not on this issue.  If it was unsafe they would not let 
>>> you do it.  Besides, a big dog will not fit under a seat anyway.  I 
>>> have tried and it does not happen. No way no how.  It does not happen.
>>> Jordan
>>>
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>>> Cc: Scott Berry <sb356607 at gmail.com <mailto:sb356607 at gmail.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] bulkhead seating
>>>
>>> Agreed and so we need to be the ones who do it cause no one else 
>>> will advocate on our behalf.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 5:52 PM, margo Downey via NAGDU 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I don't understand flight attendants' reasoning about the 
>>>> bulkhead.  It seems as though airlines personnel need further 
>>>> training.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie
>>>> Johnson via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 5:34 PM
>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>> Cc: Julie Johnson
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] bulkhead seating
>>>>
>>>> Last time I flew, I was offered bulkhead seating.  The flight 
>>>> attendant’s reasoning, and this is as close to a direct quote as I 
>>>> can recollect: “He’ll be more comfortable because there’s more 
>>>> space and he can stretch out.  Also if there’s rough air he’ll be 
>>>> safer because he can’t be tossed around”.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm...I’m still trying to sort out the logic here.  Which is it, 
>>>> lots of space to stretch out or safety because he’s in a small space.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
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