[NAGDU] FYI FW: Regarding CA State Guide Dog Board

Gabriel Moloney gmoloney6467 at googlemail.com
Wed Jan 3 15:25:04 UTC 2018


Hi
many thanks for your reply to my question, I was just curious on this matter.
thank you
Gabriel

> On 3 Jan 2018, at 15:19, NAGDU President via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gabriel,
> 
> 	It is my understanding that, with the elimination of the California
> Board of Guide Dogs, there is no regulation of the guide dog training
> industry...and there shouldn't be! Therefore, owner=trainers have no
> regulations that impact their ability to train their own guide dogs. If this
> is incorrect, I am sure I will be advised.
> 
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
> 
> 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind  people
> and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is not what holds
> you back.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabriel Moloney
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 4:57 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Gabriel Moloney
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FYI FW: Regarding CA State Guide Dog Board
> 
> hay everybody
> i am just curious, on this matter and forgive this question, if it is not
> covered here already, what happens to self trained working partnerships that
> are trained out side of the state but might move to this sate.  Again,
> slightly confused has this been asked already??? or are self trained owners
> covered??? 
> many thanks
> gabriel
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2018, at 21:49, Julie Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Buddy,
>> 
>> I was kind of scratching my head over that as well.  I'm wondering what
> they are going to do with the info.  It seems to me having the explaination
> of what qualifies as an instructor would be enough, perhaps with a statement
> that the instructor can be asked to show their affiliation or credentials or
> whatever upon request.  then if there was some crazy situation I cannot
> think of right at the moment, then this would fill the need for showing a
> particular instructor is from a particular school without having to pay some
> poor soul in some lonely cubical to maintain a list.
>> 
>> It's an improvement for sure.
>> Julie
>> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com 
>> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
>> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall 
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>> eid=1916046> -----Original Message----- From: Buddy Brannan via NAGDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 2:44 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Buddy Brannan
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] FYI FW: Regarding CA State Guide Dog Board
>> 
>> While this is really good news, and it's really long past time, I'm left
> with the thought that the requirement for guide dog schools to submit a list
> of their staff seems a bit unnecessary and a way to generate more paperwork,
> at best. Since the requirement is that someone must either be qualified by
> virtue of having the specialized skills and abilities to work with blind
> people and train guide dogs, *or* be employed by a guide dog program
> (presumably, such employees would have said specialized knowledge), how is
> this provision even enforceable, given that it's an *or*, not an *and*? It's
> great that it isn't an *and* provision, so owner trainers and  private
> trainers should be covered, not to mention programs that aren't IGDF
> accredited (thinking of Pilot and Eye Dog Foundation specifically, though
> probably not exclusively).
>> 
>> So I guess my question here is, apart from appeasing some special interest
> or other, what's the point of that particular provision?
>> 
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Michael Hingson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This has been a long time in coming. Congratulations to all of us in 
>>> California who fought so hard for this day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Hingson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Guidedogboard at DCA [mailto:Guidedogboard at dca.ca.gov]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 8:29 AM
>>> Subject: Regarding CA State Guide Dog Board
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To whom it may concern,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Assembly Bill (AB) 1705 was signed into law October 11, 2017 and will 
>>> take effect January 1, 2018. It repeals the chapter regulating guide 
>>> dog instruction (Chapter 9.5 commencing with Section 7200 of Division 
>>> 3 of the Business and Professions Code). It also establishes a fine 
>>> and civil penalty for persons who improperly represent (or advertise) 
>>> themselves as guide dog instructors. Instructors must have knowledge 
>>> of the special needs of persons who are blind or visually impaired 
>>> and be able to teach them, be able to train guide dogs such that 
>>> blind or visually impaired persons would be safe under various 
>>> traffic conditions, or be employed by a guide dog school certified by 
>>> the International Guide Dog Federation or successor entity. AB
>>> 1705 also requires guide dog schools to submit to the Department of 
>>> Consumer Affairs (DCA), on or before September 1 of each year, a list 
>>> of all trainers or guide dog instructors employed or contracted by the
> school.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yearly Filing of Mandatory List of Employees/Contractors
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As noted above, AB 1705 requires a yearly filing with the DCA of a 
>>> list of trainers who are employees or contractors of a guide dog 
>>> school. Guide dog schools will be responsible for submitting this 
>>> filing to the DCA Customer Information Center (CIC) Correspondence 
>>> Unit on or before September 1st of each year. The filings may either 
>>> be postmarked or delivered electronically to the CIC Correspondence 
>>> Unit. The contact information for the CIC is included at the bottom of
> this letter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Storage of Records and Document Retention
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Beginning January 1, 2018, DCA will assume responsibility for the 
>>> Board's official documents and records.  These records will be stored 
>>> and/or disposed of appropriately in accordance with DCA's records and 
>>> retention policy.  If you have specific questions regarding this 
>>> policy, please contact the CIC Correspondence Unit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> General Inquiries
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> During and after the transition any questions, complaints and 
>>> inquiries from consumers, licensees or the general public shall be 
>>> directed to DCA's Consumer Information Center. Contact information is
> provided below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Department of Consumer Affairs
>>> 
>>> Consumer Information Center
>>> 
>>> 1625 North Market Blvd., Suite N-112
>>> 
>>> Sacramento, CA 95834
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Email -  <mailto:dca at dca.ca.gov> dca at dca.ca.gov
>>> 
>>> Phone - (800) 952-5210
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Original Signed By
>>> 
>>> Dean Grafilo, Director
>>> 
>>> 
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