[NAGDU] Disappointed in Guiding Eyes for the Blind's Response

Jean Menzies jemenzies at shaw.ca
Thu Jan 25 21:00:02 UTC 2018


So, are some of you suggesting that it would be acceptable to have to go to 
the vet for a certificate for every flight? Personally, I wouldn't want to 
have to pay for a vet visit every time, nor is it likely that I could get an 
appointment on short notice. For me, the requirement of a vet certificate 
for every flight is costly and inconvenient, and is a game stopper.

Jean


-----Original Message----- 
From: Christopher O'meally via NAGDU
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:59 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Christopher O'meally
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Disappointed in Guiding Eyes for the Blind's Response

if holding people accountable is the only suggested plan, I don't see
this going anywhere.  several states have imposed laws against this,
but I see mor fakes in public now than ever.  BTW you can buy fake
tags.

On 1/25/18, Julie Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Okay, my suggested compromise is showing the rabies tag the dog is wearing
> at the airport when I arrive for my scheduled flight. This will avoid
> giving advance notice, will have no burden of additional paperwork, will 
> not
>
> cause me to pay for additional vet appointments and will treat me like 
> other
>
> passengers.
>
> Perhaps people don't know some facts about vaccines.  Only a vet can give
> the rabies vaccine.  In most/all states the rabies vaccine is the only
> legally required vaccine, typically every three years. Vaccines such as
> distemper, parvo etc. are suggested by vets, but not legally required.
> these diseases are not communicable to people like rabies.  You can give
> vaccines like distemper at home yourself, saving time and money.   Also
> causing a problem if you choose to exercise this entirely legal option and
> then fly using Delta.
>
> There is increasing evidence that giving vaccines every year is actually
> harmful.  Numerous studies show that vaccines are active in the body far
> longer than a single year.  Over vaccinating can cause physical and 
> behavior
>
> problems.
>
> I am bothered by all the comments stating that I have this health info
> anyway, so it's no bother to show it at the airport.  It feels very 
> selfish.
>
> Because it's no bother to me personally, I'm not going to think about 
> anyone
>
> else or the broader implications.
>
> If we want to make progress on this issue, we are going to have to start
> thinking inclusively of all people with all types of disabilities, at all
> income levels, in big cities and small, with and without a computer, with
> big dogs and small, with school provided ID's and not, doing all sorts of
> tasks and with varying needs.
>
> The only way I see to do this is to hold people accountable for the 
> behavior
>
> of their dog.  There seems to be a significant barrier in this area. 
> There
>
> are already provisions to remove a person or service dog if their behavior
> is atrocious.  As a society we are reluctant to follow through.  As a
> society we make more laws, restricting freedoms even more, because we are
> afraid of confronting people.
>
> I'd like to see educational materials on ways businesses can approach a
> person with a service or emotional support dog that is behaving badly.
> Businesses need very specific, how to, info on addressing this situation 
> in
>
> a way that is respectful, does not escalate the situation and protects the
> business from a retaliatory lawsuit.
>
> In all my years of working with guide dogs, reading service dog news
> articles, attending various conferences etc.  never once have I come 
> across
>
> an instance where a person was asked to remove their out of control dog 
> that
>
> was handled respectfully and legally.  There is not a single example I can
> point to to demonstrate the right thing to do.   News stories highlight 
> out
>
> of control dogs, arrogant people and vague demands that something needs to
> be done.
>
> Yes, something needs to be done and that something is to help businesses
> feel empowered to follow through with what the law currently provides.
>
> The problem is the behavior of some dogs and the only way to solve that
> problem is to do something to address behavior.  Requiring proof of
> vaccinations or health has very little to do with behavior.   I believe 
> once
>
> people face actual consequences for their choice to not get their dog
> appropriate training they will think seriously about having a repeat
> experience.  Also once the news starts reporting what happens to people 
> who
>
> aren't being responsible, the word will get around and people who want to
> take advantage will start thinking seriously about their choices.
>
> Humans are motivated by pain or pleasure.  To get lasting results the pain
> of taking an untrained dog on a plane has to outweigh the pleasure they 
> get
>
> from having the dog along.  That isn't going to be accomplished with some
> paperwork.  It will happen when people experience consequences for their
> poor choices.
>
> Julie
> On The Go with Guide-and-Service-Dogs.com
> http://www.guide-and-service-dogs.com
> also find my products in the Blind Mice Mega Mall
> <https://www.blindmicemegamall.com/bmm/shop/Directory_Departments?storeid=1916046>
>
>
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Very Respectfully,

Christopher O’Meally.

NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow.

Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC.

Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency.

Chris.omeally at gmail.com

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