[NAGDU] Disappointed in Guiding Eyes for the Blind's Response

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Thu Jan 25 23:40:10 UTC 2018


This is not the point. Our freedoms are being compromised.



Cindy Lou Ray, moderator
Cindyy ray at gmail.com

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> On Jan 25, 2018, at 10:36 AM, Christopher O'meally via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> don't you have to wait in line at the airport to check in anyway?  if
> you have to submit paperwork early, check in online, then your time at
> the airport won't be effected.
> 
>> On 1/25/18, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Chris, my understanding is that, somehow, we have to provide health records
>> at least 2 days before flying, but then we must also check in at a Delta
>> counter when we arrive at the airport.  No more online check-in, stroll to
>> security, show the boarding pass on the phone, and be on your way.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
>> O'meally via NAGDU
>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:48 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Christopher O'meally
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Disappointed in Guiding Eyes for the Blind's Response
>> 
>> I personally don't see the big deal.  When I travel, I braing basic
>> documentation with me in the event my dog needs medical attention, every
>> handler should when they fly.  We have to check in two days early, so we can
>> just go through to security when we get there instead of standing in line.
>> But from the other side, I could see how having to report this so far ahead
>> of your flight can be annoying at worst, so maybe we should work with delta
>> in modifying this maybe?  just not sure giving this any negative attention
>> will give us anything we want.
>> Compromises are much mor welcome to large corperations.  They don't like to
>> be told what they want is wrong.  just my opinion though.
>> 
>>> On 1/25/18, Roanna Bacchus  via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I am proud of you for sending this email to guiding eyes for the
>>> blind. I was shocked when I read about this policy from Delta
>>> Airlines. I someone who travels regularly, I have never had my cane taken
>>> away from me on a flight.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2018, at 11:58 PM, NAGDU President via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear NAGDU Members & Supporters,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am writing to share with you my comments to Guiding Eyes for the
>>>> Blind regarding their comments on Delta's proposed service animal policy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> 
>>>> Marion Gwizdala their statement
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> January 24, 2018
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Mr. Cawley,
>>>> 
>>>> Via Email: bcawley at guidingeyes.org
>>>> 
>>>>               I want to express my extreme disappointment with the
>>>> response by Guiding eyes for the Blind to the issue we are facing
>>>> with delta Airlines. The National Association of Guide Dog Users, a
>>>> strong and proud division of the National Federation of the Blind,
>>>> is committed to advocating for all guide dog users, whether they
>>>> receive their guide dogs from a formal training program or choose to
>>>> owner-train their dogs. We are also aware that, when we advocate for
>>>> policies that affect us as guide dog users, we have a more global
>>>> responsibility to the entire service dog industry. We take this
>>>> responsibility seriously and reject any attempt to weaken our civil
>>>> rights. This being said, we oppose any measures that have the effect
>>>> of discriminating against disabled individuals who use service dogs,
>>>> including the imposition of an unequal benefit, something Guiding
>>>> Eyes for the Blind seems to condone in their recent statement.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Though it is true that consumers of Guiding Eyes for the Blind and
>>>> other guide dog training programs are issued identification cards,
>>>> these cards are not and should not be required as a precondition for
>>>> access under the Air Carrier Access Act or a covered entity under the
>>>> Americans with Disabilities Act. Though it is equally true that all
>>>> responsible animal owners, including guide and service dog users,
>>>> must accept the responsibility of maintaining the health of their
>>>> dogs, it is paternalistic to require us to demonstrate that we are
>>>> doing so just because we are blind or otherwise disabled and use a
>>>> service dog! The requirement to present a health record as a
>>>> precondition to travel is discriminatory and imposes an undue burden
>>>> for those of us who use service dogs. Likewise, the inability to book
>>>> on-demand travel and check-in online, curbside, or by means of a
>>>> kiosk is a discriminatory unequal benefit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>               By issuing their statement, Guiding Eyes for the Blind
>>>> has done a disservice to their consumers and the entire service dog
>>>> using public. Such an ill-informed position compromises the progress
>>>> made by the National Federation of the Blind and the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users to ensure that service dog users have
>>>> the right to full participation in society on terms of full equality
>>>> and to travel freely without harassment or the imposition of
>>>> unnecessary, burdensome requirements.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>               The National Association of Guide Dog Users strongly
>>>> urges Guiding Eyes for the Blind to rescind their statement and take
>>>> a stand with us to demand that those of us who choose to use service
>>>> dogs have the ability to travel freely and on equal terms with our
>>>> nondisabled peers.
>>>> We
>>>> further urge
>>>> 
>>>> all guide and service dog training programs to stand with the
>>>> National Federation of the blind and its National Association of
>>>> Guide Dog Users to ensure that their consumers are well-informed
>>>> about their civil rights under the law and take an active role in
>>>> advocating for those rights.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>               For more information about the National Association of
>>>> Guide Dog Users, please visit our website
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://nagdu.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Live the life you want; nobody can stop you!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Respectfully yours,
>>>> 
>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>>> 
>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
>>>> 
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>> 
>>>> (813) 626-2789
>>>> 
>>>> President at NAGDU.ORG
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise
>>>> expectations because low expectations create barriers between blind
>>>> people and our dreams. You can live the life you want! Blindness is
>>>> not what holds you back.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> --
>> Very Respectfully,
>> 
>> Christopher O’Meally.
>> 
>> NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow.
>> 
>> Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC.
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>> Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency.
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> 
> -- 
> Very Respectfully,
> 
> Christopher O’Meally.
> 
> NVB of Virginia 2016 leadership fellow.
> 
> Lead instructor and CEO of Access Tech Media INC.
> 
> Contract Closeout Specialist, Defense Contract Management Agency.
> 
> Chris.omeally at gmail.com
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> (804)658-6668
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