[NAGDU] Not impressed at all with Leader Dogs

[Jordan Gallacher]

That is definitely something I am starting to think about.  Not a decision I
want to make though that is for sure.  I am totally not sure what really to
do since putting a band-aid on the problem is not going to solve much, and
the gentle leader, well does not do a thing to slow or stop this dog as I
have previously discussed with Leader Dogs so I have no idea why they keep
going back to telling me to use it.  All I know right now is I am frustrated
with Leader Dogs for not getting it the first time, and then blaming losing
the fact I needed a visit as soon as possible on a computer issue when I was
bringing the problem up rather frequently and then telling me to do things I
have already tried that do not work on a dog as strong willed as he is.  GDB
was smart and had a dog back in 2010 doing exact same behaviors and pulled
that dog from training immediately which is what should have happened with
Belto.
Jordan

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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Not impressed at all with Leader Dogs

    Jordan:

You have been having these problems with Belto for a very long time now. 
Maybe it is time to consider retiring him.  It is obvious that he cannot be
trusted to behave himself around other dogs.  This is particularly dangerous
if you attend meetings or functions with other blind people and their guide
dogs.  You have tried very hard but some problem behaviors just cannot be
fixed.

Sandra Johnson and Eva

-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 4:50 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Jordan Gallacher
Subject: [NAGDU] Not impressed at all with Leader Dogs

The subject says it all.  Leader Dogs is up to not listening nor taking the
problem seriously again regarding Belto's aggressive behaviors around other
dogs sometimes.  Suggestions?  They are down to one field rep as some of us
might be aware of.  .  Last night was the exact situation I have been
worrying about where he tries to attack another dog and nothing works to put
a stop to it except for getting physical with my dog, which is exactly what
I ended up having to do.  Other times the dog or dogs are behind fences and
it took both me and the girlfriend I had at the time to literally drag him
out of those situations.  His work is great otherwise, but none of the usual
methods work on Belto since he is so strong willed.  Leader is also failing
to realize that there is a big difference between when Belto wants to play
with another dog and when he is being aggressive.  Usually, if Belto is
going to be aggressive, I am quite close to the other dog before he shows
any interest where as if he wants to play, he will start picking up the pace
and pulling more a bit of a distance from the other dog.  That case, hop up
and/or a correction works every single time to get his head on straight.

Jordan

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