[NAGDU] Question And Possible Materials/Resources
Becky Frankeberger
b.butterfly at comcast.net
Fri Nov 2 22:33:53 UTC 2018
Heavens, a dog who would get aggressive while its master is being arrested should be very few. Obviously someone would be called to get the dog the blind person trusts out of the temporary lock up. This could be a relative, another handler, boarding facility. . The dog needs to be kept safe as it did nothing wrong.
Becky
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Dear federation family and our lovely tail waggers!
I hope to find everyone well. I want to send our love from the Volunteer state! I had a member of our city visiter center, who provides training and education to local businesses and future officers who are in the academy info on our state laws and how to interract with a service animal user. The question she received recently was if a blindperson or person with a disability was going to be arrested, what would be the protocol or suggestions as to completing the arrest and minimize the risk of the dog becoming aggressive. We talked about some solutions, but I was wondering if anyone has any material or resource that they can share that discusses such a situation.
Finally, we (TAGDU) have finished and are putting some finishing touches on our packet that can be sued to provide education, information, and be used in presentations to officers, precincts, and police academy training centers. Upon its’ completion, I will be sure to share it with anyone interested and President Marion.
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> 2. Re: New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard wood
> floors. (Dan Weiner)
> 3. Re: New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard wood
> floors. (Howard J. Levine)
> 4. Re: New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard wood
> floors. (nellie at culodge.com)
> 5. Re: New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard wood
> floors. (Lauren Bishop)
> 6. Re: New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard wood
> floors. (Jody ianuzzi)
> 7. Re: New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard wood
> floors. (sunshine)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:17:46 -0400
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
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> Hi Howard.
> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he drinks,
> and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5 times a day
> is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty subtle,
> and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old dog
> relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>
> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash or
> tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be free in
> the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or tie-down for at
> least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It seemed like ages
> before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>
> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well as a
> lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>
> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their sleep,
> quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J.
> Levine via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Howard J. Levine
> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
>
> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the hard
> wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about month
> now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the house. I
> don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the house. I take
> Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it up right away. Any
> I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:28:11 -0400
> From: Dan Weiner <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> To: Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
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> very interesting discussion I'm sorry you're dealing with this Howard.
> My first and second dogs had this problem but they grew out of it,
> patience and taking them out a lot until things settled down seemed to
> be the ticket. I don't know if I've gotten more experienced or what
> but dogs three and four, four being Parker, never had this issue.?
> This is of course unless as Tracey mentioned your dog might have some
> helth issue or urinary tract issues, maybe talking to a vet is in
> order. Again sorry you're dealing with this.
>
>
> Warmest regards,
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On 10/31/2018 8:17 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi Howard.
>> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
>> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he drinks,
>> and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5 times a day
>> is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
>> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty
>> subtle, and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old
>> dog relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
>> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
>> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>>
>> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash or
>> tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be free in
>> the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or tie-down for at
>> least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It seemed like ages
>> before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>>
>> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
>> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well as
>> a lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>>
>> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their sleep,
>> quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
>> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
>> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J.
>> Levine via NAGDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Howard J. Levine
>> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
>> wood floors.
>>
>> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the hard
>> wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about month
>> now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the house. I
>> don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the house. I take
>> Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it up right away.
>> Any I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:01:55 -0400
> From: "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
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> Thank you I called the school and thay are going to get puppy walker
> to call me so we can talk. I must say she such a great guide we walk
> about 2 miles this morning and she stop at all crose walks and guided
> me through new areas what a job she did.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:18 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
>
> Hi Howard.
> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he drinks,
> and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5 times a day
> is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty subtle,
> and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old dog
> relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>
> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash or
> tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be free in
> the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or tie-down for at
> least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It seemed like ages
> before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>
> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well as a
> lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>
> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their sleep,
> quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Levine via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Howard J. Levine
> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
>
> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the hard
> wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about month
> now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the house. I
> don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the house. I take
> Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it up right away. Any
> I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 11:06:57 -0500
> From: <nellie at culodge.com>
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> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
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> That is good news! Be sure every time you take her out and she goes,
> give her tons of praises. I am sure things will figure themselves
> out, just may take a while.
>
> Good luck!
>
> -Janell and the black beauties!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:02 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
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> Cc: Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>; 'Tracy Carcione'
> <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
>
> Thank you I called the school and thay are going to get puppy walker
> to call me so we can talk. I must say she such a great guide we walk
> about 2 miles this morning and she stop at all crose walks and guided
> me through new areas what a job she did.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Carcione via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:18 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
>
> Hi Howard.
> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he drinks,
> and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5 times a day
> is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty subtle,
> and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old dog
> relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>
> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash or
> tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be free in
> the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or tie-down for at
> least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It seemed like ages
> before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>
> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well as a
> lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>
> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their sleep,
> quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J.
> Levine via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Howard J. Levine
> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
>
> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the hard
> wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about month
> now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the house. I
> don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the house. I take
> Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it up right away. Any
> I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:36:14 -0400
> From: Lauren Bishop <laurenbishop96 at icloud.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
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> Good Afternoon,
> I would make an appointment with the vet to make sure their is not a health issue.
> Definitely a good idea to get the puppy raiser involved; however, I would advocate for a trainer to come see you. You want to make sure that your dog is not stressed out or anything like that.
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> That is good news! Be sure every time you take her out and she goes,
>> give her tons of praises. I am sure things will figure themselves
>> out, just may take a while.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> -Janell and the black beauties!!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:02 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
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>> Cc: Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net <mailto:WB2HWW at earthlink.net>>; 'Tracy Carcione'
>> <carcione at access.net <mailto:carcione at access.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on
>> hard wood floors.
>>
>> Thank you I called the school and thay are going to get puppy walker
>> to call me so we can talk. I must say she such a great guide we walk
>> about 2 miles this morning and she stop at all crose walks and guided
>> me through new areas what a job she did.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>> Carcione via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:18 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on
>> hard wood floors.
>>
>> Hi Howard.
>> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
>> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he drinks,
>> and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5 times a day
>> is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
>> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty
>> subtle, and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old
>> dog relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
>> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
>> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>>
>> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash or
>> tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be free in
>> the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or tie-down for at
>> least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It seemed like ages
>> before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>>
>> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
>> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well as
>> a lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>>
>> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their sleep,
>> quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
>> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
>> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J.
>> Levine via NAGDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Howard J. Levine
>> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
>> wood floors.
>>
>> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the hard
>> wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about month
>> now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the house. I
>> don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the house. I take
>> Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it up right away.
>> Any I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 12:45:12 -0400
> From: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
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> If your dog is female she could be having some incontinence problems. This is not uncommon and spade female also, a lot of dogs will urinate as a sign of submission. Once the PAC order is established in your family she might stop.
>
> JODY
>
> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
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> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS
> Erik Weihenmayer
>
>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Good Afternoon,
>> I would make an appointment with the vet to make sure their is not a health issue.
>> Definitely a good idea to get the puppy raiser involved; however, I would advocate for a trainer to come see you. You want to make sure that your dog is not stressed out or anything like that.
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> That is good news! Be sure every time you take her out and she
>>> goes, give her tons of praises. I am sure things will figure
>>> themselves out, just may take a while.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> -Janell and the black beauties!!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:02 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>>> Cc: Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net <mailto:WB2HWW at earthlink.net>>; 'Tracy Carcione'
>>> <carcione at access.net <mailto:carcione at access.net>>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on
>>> hard wood floors.
>>>
>>> Thank you I called the school and thay are going to get puppy walker
>>> to call me so we can talk. I must say she such a great guide we walk
>>> about 2 miles this morning and she stop at all crose walks and
>>> guided me through new areas what a job she did.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:18 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on
>>> hard wood floors.
>>>
>>> Hi Howard.
>>> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
>>> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he drinks,
>>> and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5 times a day
>>> is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
>>> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty
>>> subtle, and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old
>>> dog relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
>>> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
>>> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>>>
>>> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash
>>> or tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be
>>> free in the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or
>>> tie-down for at least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It
>>> seemed like ages before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>>>
>>> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
>>> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well as
>>> a lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>>>
>>> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their sleep,
>>> quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
>>> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
>>> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J.
>>> Levine via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Howard J. Levine
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
>>> wood floors.
>>>
>>> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the hard
>>> wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about month
>>> now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the house. I
>>> don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the house. I take
>>> Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it up right away.
>>> Any I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:08:03 -0500
> From: sunshine <halogirl817 at gmail.com>
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
> wood floors.
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> My Mallory had incontinence. I noticed there were little puddles so I took her to the vet. With medication, there were no problems. There are many reasons why a dog might wet frequently in the home. I had a dog with a small bladder and for that reason, I took her out about 7 times a day. She did not have accidents in the house. Since I knew she had a small bladder I took it upon myself to take her out more frequently. At anyone's house, she was always on leash.
>
>
> Sometimes dogs wet shortly after returning home. When that happens a dog should be on leash at all times or in a crate where said dog can see his or her owner. There can be a UTI that causes the problem. Kidney infection is another reason. The one that is common among some dogs is behavioral. The people I have known realized that was an issue. Their dogs didn't mind being in a crate or on tie down.
>
>
> Howard, I know you said you would call the school. Let us know the outcome. Staff prefers to hear from us when a problem is consistent as opposed to waiting so long that the issue cannot be resolved.
>
> halogirl817 at gmail.com
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>
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>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:45 AM, Jody ianuzzi via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> If your dog is female she could be having some incontinence problems. This is not uncommon and spade female also, a lot of dogs will urinate as a sign of submission. Once the PAC order is established in your family she might stop.
>>
>> JODY
>>
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>
>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS
>> Erik Weihenmayer
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Lauren Bishop via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>> I would make an appointment with the vet to make sure their is not a health issue.
>>> Definitely a good idea to get the puppy raiser involved; however, I would advocate for a trainer to come see you. You want to make sure that your dog is not stressed out or anything like that.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lauren
>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:06 PM, Janell via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is good news! Be sure every time you take her out and she
>>>> goes, give her tons of praises. I am sure things will figure
>>>> themselves out, just may take a while.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> -Janell and the black beauties!!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> <mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>> On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine
>>>> via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:02 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>>>> Cc: Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net <mailto:WB2HWW at earthlink.net>>; 'Tracy Carcione'
>>>> <carcione at access.net <mailto:carcione at access.net>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on
>>>> hard wood floors.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you I called the school and thay are going to get puppy
>>>> walker to call me so we can talk. I must say she such a great guide
>>>> we walk about 2 miles this morning and she stop at all crose walks
>>>> and guided me through new areas what a job she did.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>>> Carcione via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:18 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on
>>>> hard wood floors.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Howard.
>>>> My dog Krokus has ongoing urinary issues, somewhat controlled by
>>>> medication, but I still have to be very aware of how much he
>>>> drinks, and take him out more than any of my other dogs. 4 or 5
>>>> times a day is not enough for him, and it may not be enough for your gal, either.
>>>> I have to pay close attention to his signals, which are pretty
>>>> subtle, and take him out right away if he seems to need it. My old
>>>> dog relieving schedule went right out the window when he came along.
>>>> If he has a good drink, he has to go out somewhere between 1 and 2
>>>> hours afterwords, regardless of when he was last out.
>>>>
>>>> A month after you got her, it's not too crazy to keep her on leash
>>>> or tie-down still, if she's having issues. I like my dogs to be
>>>> free in the house, too, but I expect to keep them on leash or
>>>> tie-down for at least a couple weeks, and more if necessary. It
>>>> seemed like ages before Krokus could be trusted without constant supervision.
>>>>
>>>> There was a time Krokus felt free to pee in the house, and, once he
>>>> picked a spot it took some very sharp words to deter him, as well
>>>> as a lot of cleaner to make the spot stop smelling like a place he thought he could use.
>>>>
>>>> My girls who had spayed bitch incontinence would pee in their
>>>> sleep, quite different from choosing a spot and peeing in it.
>>>> A vet visit couldn't hurt, to make sure it's not a medical issue.
>>>> Good luck. I know what a problem peeing in the house can be.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard
>>>> J. Levine via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 8:12 PM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Howard J. Levine
>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] New guide dog is urinating in living room on hard
>>>> wood floors.
>>>>
>>>> Hi My new guide dog Everlie a yellow female lab is going on the
>>>> hard wood floor in my living room. She has been with me for about
>>>> month now. She is great worker, but has gone couple times in the
>>>> house. I don't want to put her on tie down when we are in the
>>>> house. I take Everlie out about 4 to 5 times a day. I do clean it
>>>> up right away. Any I deas to get this under contro, I want her to have freedom in the house.
>>>>
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