[NAGDU] Video in training

Wed Oct 17 19:51:28 UTC 2018

Hi there,
I apologize for not addressing you by name, I'm not sure which words
are your name smile. Thank you for your message. I love taking
snapshots of moments in my life and just treasuring them. On a related
note, I used to own a cassette recorder/player, and my parents would
buy me blank tapes and I would record anything and everything, so,
this is a great way for me to go back and laugh and remember those
moments in my childhood, and as an adult, now that I am tech savvy and
love to document important moments, I feel excitement at the thought
of being able to look back at any time, or upon this dog's retirement,
and recall that special first meeting, both in spirit and in real-time
documentation of the special memory.
Plus, as I said earlier, I think that I could really help someone as I
am going through the training process for a fourth time; I won't
document every single moment, of course, and I will certainly ask
permission, but I really feel that others need to know how this
process works, and just how special the relationship is between a
guide and a handler, and why it's important not to interfere with a
service dog and handler team. My thinking is, if I can advocate for us
all as a whole as guide dog users and about blindness in general, I
want to do my part, and share moments in my life with others, and I
think this is an awesome way to do it.
Kerri

On 10/17/18, Leye-Shprintse Oeberg via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> בּס’ד
>
> I don’t understand why we judge other people’s actions. If you don’t want to
> document your life, that’s your choice, and if you want to document your
> life, it doesn’t mean that you’ll not take the time to bound with your new
> guide dog or that you’re not in the moments which matter to you. Each to
> their own. And, if you wonder, I’m not the documenting type, but I don’t
> brag about the fact and I absolutely don’t think that I’m better than other
> people. However, I think that it’s very wise to ask if it’s okay to take
> photos and make videos when other people are around, but in your room or in
> the street, I would do it without asking if I was that type of person. Good
> luck in class!
>
> לשׁלום,
> Leye-Shprintse Oeberg
> Jönköping, Suède
> leyeshprintse at gmx.com
>
> Envoyé de mon iPhone SE
>
>> 17 okt. 2018 kl. 19:15 skrev Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>:
>>
>> I'm with you Tracey, Carrie and Cindy. Other people like to document. I
>> don't "get" it, and all I care is that they document entities that want to
>> be documented.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:41 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Video in training
>>
>> I would think that messing with video in class would add a layer of
>> distraction I just don't need.  I need to concentrate on the new dog, and
>> on
>> correcting my own old habbits, or explaining them to the new dog.  Messing
>> about with some tech gadget would only complicate things.  And injecting
>> it
>> into the first meeting, which to me is very special, ... nope, not for me.
>> I want to be in the moment.  I'd call it mindfulness.
>> Guess this is a strange idea to some people, but I see lots of people
>> missing the moment by concentrating on recording it, and it bugs me.
>> Tracy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerri Sprecher
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:32 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Kerri Sprecher
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] class coming up, and questions
>>
>> Sunshine and list,
>> Thanks for your reply as well; very insightful. I would assume that you
>> still wait in your room while your instructor gets your dog and brings
>> them
>> to you, thus the bonding time afterward. Also I'm thinking of doing some
>> video blogging or vlogging, but not with others in the video for privacy
>> reasons, just mainly in my room as a video diary of how things are going.
>> Has anyone done that before? I saw someone's video blog on youtube that
>> they
>> posted, and they were able to record some travel, but only when they were
>> in
>> an area with quiet residential streets with very few people around, for
>> the
>> same privacy reasons, but they were allowed to record in their room of
>> course, after a couple of days, provided that the match was working well
>> together and that was going to be their dog. What I would love to do, but
>> doubt they will allow, is to record the first meeting, but I understand
>> that
>> this may not be appropriate because it may be that the second dog that
>> they
>> chose might be the match inst  ead of the first one. But, what about audio
>> only? Is that a better option?
>> And, Cindy, I'm sure I either have come close to or exceeded my 5-a-day
>> limit, so I apologize. That's why I'm trying to write longer messages with
>> more info instead of shorter ones.
>> Kerri
>>
>>
>> Kerri Sprecher,  President
>> Big Country Chapter NFBTX
>> spedangel84 at gmail.com
>> 325-280-6272
>> Chapter Google Voice: 325-704-8787
>> Chapter E-mail: bigcountry at nfbtx.org
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>> "
>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
>> blindness is not what holds you back."
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 4:23 PM, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was in the retrain class last November. It is fairly hectic, but not
>>> so
>> bad that it's unmanageable. The High School route is no longer a part of
>> the
>> program. We are not in our rooms for 2 hours after receiving our dogs. We
>> receive them on Wednesday morning following a short lecture. After all
>> dogs
>> have been issued, there is some time with our dogs. Then we all break up
>> for
>> class lectures. In the afternoon , we started with the Maple Street route.
>> We're in class from Monday until the Thursday of the third week. That's
>> when
>> people go home. However, when I was in the retrain class, some students
>> went
>> home Wednesday while others left on Thursday. I really enjoyed being in
>> the
>> retrain class. I really didn't feel too rushed. Smiling! We had 18 of us
>> in
>> the class and there were four instructors and the supervisor.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 3:48 PM, Debra Chandler via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't been to class in about five years but I'm thinking the
>>>> retrains
>> did a 19-day class give or take eve n when I got my last dog.  I would
>> imagine that they're just trying to use their time as efficiently as
>> possible.  It could almost feel like home and away training if it's too
>> rushed.  I did home and away and I needed it but to me it was a bit
>> rushed.
>> We didn't get everything in that was needed at the school.  Best of luck
>> in
>> class.  This is a wonderful time to train with a guide dog.  Just cool and
>> comfortable.
>>>> Deb and Tally
>>>> ---- Kerri Sprecher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello to all,
>>>>> I'm so excited to be going to Morristown, NJ on Monday the 22nd. I
>>>>> heard something about a welcome meeting or dinner when I got my
>>>>> flight arrangements set up with the travel agency. That part was new
>>>>> to me and I liked that.
>>>>> So, my thing is this: in order to pack all the training that used to
>>>>> go into a 3 and a half week class for a retrain and 4 weeks for a
>>>>> new student, into a shorter class time, 2.5 weeks for retrains in my
>>>>> case, can someone shed some light on how in the world they manage to
>>>>> pull that off? I bet it's a whirlwind of activity; I'm definitely
>>>>> expecting the 5:30 AM feed and park, meal times to be the same, one
>>>>> AM and one PM trip, and feed and park again, some lectures and one
>>>>> last park time, but, do they have you doing longer trips with more
>>>>> work per trip than before? I would imagine that in order to get
>>>>> someone prepared for life with a guide dog, you'd have to pack more
>>>>> skill sets into a trip in order to get it all in there before going
>>>>> home
>> time.
>>>>> I spoke with a good friend of mine who goes to GDB for her dogs, and
>>>>> she said hers is similar in that they do clicker training,
>>>>> targeting, chaining, and the like, but when they shortened their
>>>>> class time also, they changed the ratio of student/instructor to 2/1
>>>>> instead of 4/1, because they put in longer trip times with more
>>>>> training in each trip than in previous classes before.
>>>>> I'm guessing that Monday and Tuesday are dedicated to paperwork,
>>>>> orientation, lectures, and Juneau walks to make sure the match is
>>>>> right, and then Wednesday, the day everyone looks forward to, Dog
>>>>> Day, lunch, and your first ever trip together. And, I am also
>>>>> guessing that in the first few days of getting the new dog, it'll be
>>>>> the simple familiar quiet routes, then more in-depth and more
>>>>> complex ones. I just was shocked when I first learned they had
>>>>> shortened class, because even with a 3 week class, it felt like we
>>>>> were always running and going, with a little down time sprinkled in,
>>>>> but mostly busy, and now, to think that it's even shorter makes me
>>>>> wonder just how much more work they'll have for me to do at once.
>>>>> Glad I'm a seasoned handler by now, or I might feel overwhelmed;
>>>>> heck I might feel that way anyway. Smile.
>>>>> So, what do you think, for those of you grads out there, about the
>>>>> new
>>>>> 2.5 week class, and how has it affected or changed the way they do
>>>>> trips and the amount of work for each trip?
>>>>> Thanks all, and I am ecstatic!
>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kerri Sprecher,  President
>>>>> Big Country Chapter NFBTX
>>>>> spedangel84 at gmail.com
>>>>> 325-280-6272
>>>>> Chapter Google Voice: 325-704-8787
>>>>> Chapter E-mail:
>>>>> bigcountry at nfbtx.org
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>>>>> "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not
>>>>> the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we
>>>>> raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations
>>>>> create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live
>>>>> the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back."
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-- 
Kerri Sprecher,  President
Big Country Chapter NFBTX
spedangel84 at gmail.com
325-280-6272
Chapter Google Voice: 325-305-2965
Chapter E-mail:
bigcountry at nfbtx.org
Check us out on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AbileneAreaBlind
"The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
blindness is not what holds you back."