[NAGDU] Video in training

Thu Oct 18 10:38:02 UTC 2018

בּס’ד

Kerri,

My first names are Leye-Shprintse which are Jewish names with Yiddish roots, so they aren’t easy to recognize if you don’t are a part of our people. I’m a bit jealous of people who’ve the habit of documenting their lifes and I happily watch other people’s vlogs and read their blogs. So, if you’ll do something publically, I’d be one of the lurkers. Good luck!

לשׁלום,
Leye-Shprintse Oeberg
Jönköping, Suède
leyeshprintse at gmx.com

Envoyé de mon iPhone SE

> 17 okt. 2018 kl. 21:51 skrev Kerri Sprecher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>:
> 
> Hi there,
> I apologize for not addressing you by name, I'm not sure which words
> are your name smile. Thank you for your message. I love taking
> snapshots of moments in my life and just treasuring them. On a related
> note, I used to own a cassette recorder/player, and my parents would
> buy me blank tapes and I would record anything and everything, so,
> this is a great way for me to go back and laugh and remember those
> moments in my childhood, and as an adult, now that I am tech savvy and
> love to document important moments, I feel excitement at the thought
> of being able to look back at any time, or upon this dog's retirement,
> and recall that special first meeting, both in spirit and in real-time
> documentation of the special memory.
> Plus, as I said earlier, I think that I could really help someone as I
> am going through the training process for a fourth time; I won't
> document every single moment, of course, and I will certainly ask
> permission, but I really feel that others need to know how this
> process works, and just how special the relationship is between a
> guide and a handler, and why it's important not to interfere with a
> service dog and handler team. My thinking is, if I can advocate for us
> all as a whole as guide dog users and about blindness in general, I
> want to do my part, and share moments in my life with others, and I
> think this is an awesome way to do it.
> Kerri
> 
>> On 10/17/18, Leye-Shprintse Oeberg via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> בּס’ד
>> 
>> I don’t understand why we judge other people’s actions. If you don’t want to
>> document your life, that’s your choice, and if you want to document your
>> life, it doesn’t mean that you’ll not take the time to bound with your new
>> guide dog or that you’re not in the moments which matter to you. Each to
>> their own. And, if you wonder, I’m not the documenting type, but I don’t
>> brag about the fact and I absolutely don’t think that I’m better than other
>> people. However, I think that it’s very wise to ask if it’s okay to take
>> photos and make videos when other people are around, but in your room or in
>> the street, I would do it without asking if I was that type of person. Good
>> luck in class!
>> 
>> לשׁלום,
>> Leye-Shprintse Oeberg
>> Jönköping, Suède
>> leyeshprintse at gmx.com
>> 
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone SE
>> 
>>> 17 okt. 2018 kl. 19:15 skrev Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>:
>>> 
>>> I'm with you Tracey, Carrie and Cindy. Other people like to document. I
>>> don't "get" it, and all I care is that they document entities that want to
>>> be documented.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via
>>> NAGDU
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:41 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Video in training
>>> 
>>> I would think that messing with video in class would add a layer of
>>> distraction I just don't need.  I need to concentrate on the new dog, and
>>> on
>>> correcting my own old habbits, or explaining them to the new dog.  Messing
>>> about with some tech gadget would only complicate things.  And injecting
>>> it
>>> into the first meeting, which to me is very special, ... nope, not for me.
>>> I want to be in the moment.  I'd call it mindfulness.
>>> Guess this is a strange idea to some people, but I see lots of people
>>> missing the moment by concentrating on recording it, and it bugs me.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerri Sprecher
>>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:32 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Kerri Sprecher
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] class coming up, and questions
>>> 
>>> Sunshine and list,
>>> Thanks for your reply as well; very insightful. I would assume that you
>>> still wait in your room while your instructor gets your dog and brings
>>> them
>>> to you, thus the bonding time afterward. Also I'm thinking of doing some
>>> video blogging or vlogging, but not with others in the video for privacy
>>> reasons, just mainly in my room as a video diary of how things are going.
>>> Has anyone done that before? I saw someone's video blog on youtube that
>>> they
>>> posted, and they were able to record some travel, but only when they were
>>> in
>>> an area with quiet residential streets with very few people around, for
>>> the
>>> same privacy reasons, but they were allowed to record in their room of
>>> course, after a couple of days, provided that the match was working well
>>> together and that was going to be their dog. What I would love to do, but
>>> doubt they will allow, is to record the first meeting, but I understand
>>> that
>>> this may not be appropriate because it may be that the second dog that
>>> they
>>> chose might be the match inst  ead of the first one. But, what about audio
>>> only? Is that a better option?
>>> And, Cindy, I'm sure I either have come close to or exceeded my 5-a-day
>>> limit, so I apologize. That's why I'm trying to write longer messages with
>>> more info instead of shorter ones.
>>> Kerri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kerri Sprecher,  President
>>> Big Country Chapter NFBTX
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>>> 
>>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 4:23 PM, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I was in the retrain class last November. It is fairly hectic, but not
>>>> so
>>> bad that it's unmanageable. The High School route is no longer a part of
>>> the
>>> program. We are not in our rooms for 2 hours after receiving our dogs. We
>>> receive them on Wednesday morning following a short lecture. After all
>>> dogs
>>> have been issued, there is some time with our dogs. Then we all break up
>>> for
>>> class lectures. In the afternoon , we started with the Maple Street route.
>>> We're in class from Monday until the Thursday of the third week. That's
>>> when
>>> people go home. However, when I was in the retrain class, some students
>>> went
>>> home Wednesday while others left on Thursday. I really enjoyed being in
>>> the
>>> retrain class. I really didn't feel too rushed. Smiling! We had 18 of us
>>> in
>>> the class and there were four instructors and the supervisor.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2018, at 3:48 PM, Debra Chandler via NAGDU
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't been to class in about five years but I'm thinking the
>>>>> retrains
>>> did a 19-day class give or take eve n when I got my last dog.  I would
>>> imagine that they're just trying to use their time as efficiently as
>>> possible.  It could almost feel like home and away training if it's too
>>> rushed.  I did home and away and I needed it but to me it was a bit
>>> rushed.
>>> We didn't get everything in that was needed at the school.  Best of luck
>>> in
>>> class.  This is a wonderful time to train with a guide dog.  Just cool and
>>> comfortable.
>>>>> Deb and Tally
>>>>> ---- Kerri Sprecher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello to all,
>>>>>> I'm so excited to be going to Morristown, NJ on Monday the 22nd. I
>>>>>> heard something about a welcome meeting or dinner when I got my
>>>>>> flight arrangements set up with the travel agency. That part was new
>>>>>> to me and I liked that.
>>>>>> So, my thing is this: in order to pack all the training that used to
>>>>>> go into a 3 and a half week class for a retrain and 4 weeks for a
>>>>>> new student, into a shorter class time, 2.5 weeks for retrains in my
>>>>>> case, can someone shed some light on how in the world they manage to
>>>>>> pull that off? I bet it's a whirlwind of activity; I'm definitely
>>>>>> expecting the 5:30 AM feed and park, meal times to be the same, one
>>>>>> AM and one PM trip, and feed and park again, some lectures and one
>>>>>> last park time, but, do they have you doing longer trips with more
>>>>>> work per trip than before? I would imagine that in order to get
>>>>>> someone prepared for life with a guide dog, you'd have to pack more
>>>>>> skill sets into a trip in order to get it all in there before going
>>>>>> home
>>> time.
>>>>>> I spoke with a good friend of mine who goes to GDB for her dogs, and
>>>>>> she said hers is similar in that they do clicker training,
>>>>>> targeting, chaining, and the like, but when they shortened their
>>>>>> class time also, they changed the ratio of student/instructor to 2/1
>>>>>> instead of 4/1, because they put in longer trip times with more
>>>>>> training in each trip than in previous classes before.
>>>>>> I'm guessing that Monday and Tuesday are dedicated to paperwork,
>>>>>> orientation, lectures, and Juneau walks to make sure the match is
>>>>>> right, and then Wednesday, the day everyone looks forward to, Dog
>>>>>> Day, lunch, and your first ever trip together. And, I am also
>>>>>> guessing that in the first few days of getting the new dog, it'll be
>>>>>> the simple familiar quiet routes, then more in-depth and more
>>>>>> complex ones. I just was shocked when I first learned they had
>>>>>> shortened class, because even with a 3 week class, it felt like we
>>>>>> were always running and going, with a little down time sprinkled in,
>>>>>> but mostly busy, and now, to think that it's even shorter makes me
>>>>>> wonder just how much more work they'll have for me to do at once.
>>>>>> Glad I'm a seasoned handler by now, or I might feel overwhelmed;
>>>>>> heck I might feel that way anyway. Smile.
>>>>>> So, what do you think, for those of you grads out there, about the
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> 2.5 week class, and how has it affected or changed the way they do
>>>>>> trips and the amount of work for each trip?
>>>>>> Thanks all, and I am ecstatic!
>>>>>> Kerri
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Kerri Sprecher,  President
>>>>>> Big Country Chapter NFBTX
>>>>>> spedangel84 at gmail.com
>>>>>> 325-280-6272
>>>>>> Chapter Google Voice: 325-704-8787
>>>>>> Chapter E-mail:
>>>>>> bigcountry at nfbtx.org
>>>>>> Check us out on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AbileneAreaBlind
>>>>>> "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not
>>>>>> the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we
>>>>>> raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations
>>>>>> create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live
>>>>>> the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back."
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> 
> -- 
> Kerri Sprecher,  President
> Big Country Chapter NFBTX
> spedangel84 at gmail.com
> 325-280-6272
> Chapter Google Voice: 325-305-2965
> Chapter E-mail:
> bigcountry at nfbtx.org
> Check us out on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/AbileneAreaBlind
> "The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back."
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