[NAGDU] New GDB contract

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi All, 
This contract excerpt is just another sickening way that guide dog schools are threatening their clients with action against them if they don’t fall into line. These attitudes are paternalistic and upsetting. No, they probably could not enforce these provisions legally, but, in unfortunate reality, most blind people don’t have the funds or the advocacy resources to be able to stand up against such a big organization, and the school knows this.
Aleeha 

> On Oct 18, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Jessica Diaz via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> This is so sad. When I got my GDB dog in 2010 I was so proud to have gone
> there. The school came highly recommended by friends. Now though it seems
> like a money making scheme and they have way to many rules and regulations.
> When I went to GEB in Feb., a man and I both left GDB for these same reasons
> and were both first timers at GEB. He had multiple dogs from GDB and was
> very disappointed at the way they have changed and the way money is sort of
> put over the success of teams. Also, contracts can definitely be broken
> because I know people who use the dog for money purposes like post videos,
> vlogs, and other stuff getting paid. I really hope GDB turns things around.
> Jessica
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine via
> NAGDU
> Sent: October 18, 2018 8:48 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New GDB contract
> 
> I will say again any Contract can be broken. The school can enforce the
> contract if person does not have money or the help defend them self in court
> of law. Some of school don't care about blind they only care about stayin
> charge and making money off the blind.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 7:48 PM
> To: Jenine Stanley via NAGDU
> Cc: David
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New GDB contract
> 
> I'm not sure how they could enforce that agreement if challenged, either,
> Jenine.  In the first place, it sounds an awful lot like a contract of
> adhesion if the handler is required to sign after training. Secondly, the
> agreement is self-contradictory.   How can you have ownership and also be
> subject to losing ownership by violating their rules.   In reality, I think
> it is no more than a cudgel to beat the unsophisticated into compliance, or
> unsophisticated officials into removing the dog without due process, or
> using the power of the purse (legal fees) to take away someone's guide dog.
> Anyway, the whole approach is paternalist, disrespectful of an entire group
> of people based on their disability, and demeaning.  It is very reminiscent
> of the not-too-distant past when social services, welfare agencies, and
> charities could remove children from parents who had physical limitations
> with virtually no due process at all.
> 
> *David in Clearwater, FL*
> *david at bakerinet.com
> 
> *
> 
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