[NAGDU] New GDB contract

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Mon Oct 22 17:35:35 UTC 2018


Jessica, can you explain? How is money being put over the success of teams?
I'm not on GDB's side, I'm simply trying to understand what you are trying
to say.

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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jessica Diaz via NAGDU
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New GDB contract

Hello,
This is so sad. When I got my GDB dog in 2010 I was so proud to have gone
there. The school came highly recommended by friends. Now though it seems
like a money making scheme and they have way to many rules and regulations.
When I went to GEB in Feb., a man and I both left GDB for these same reasons
and were both first timers at GEB. He had multiple dogs from GDB and was
very disappointed at the way they have changed and the way money is sort of
put over the success of teams. Also, contracts can definitely be broken
because I know people who use the dog for money purposes like post videos,
vlogs, and other stuff getting paid. I really hope GDB turns things around.
Jessica
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From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine via
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Sent: October 18, 2018 8:48 PM
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I will say again any Contract can be broken. The school can enforce the
contract if person does not have money or the help defend them self in court
of law. Some of school don't care about blind they only care about stayin
charge and making money off the blind.

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From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via NAGDU
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 7:48 PM
To: Jenine Stanley via NAGDU
Cc: David
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New GDB contract

I'm not sure how they could enforce that agreement if challenged, either,
Jenine.  In the first place, it sounds an awful lot like a contract of
adhesion if the handler is required to sign after training. Secondly, the
agreement is self-contradictory.   How can you have ownership and also be
subject to losing ownership by violating their rules.   In reality, I think
it is no more than a cudgel to beat the unsophisticated into compliance, or
unsophisticated officials into removing the dog without due process, or
using the power of the purse (legal fees) to take away someone's guide dog.
Anyway, the whole approach is paternalist, disrespectful of an entire group
of people based on their disability, and demeaning.  It is very reminiscent
of the not-too-distant past when social services, welfare agencies, and
charities could remove children from parents who had physical limitations
with virtually no due process at all.

*David in Clearwater, FL*
*david at bakerinet.com

*

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