[NAGDU] Off leash dogs! What can I do?

Mon Oct 22 15:01:44 UTC 2018

Hi Dar.
You sprayed the pepper spray on the street?  That sounds easy, if the
other dog licks it.
Tracy

> What did the owner think of that!
> I lived in the projects where the dog walked across the street, bite my
> dogs back legs then went home.
> I got pepper spray sprayed street, dog came over licked spray, never
> bothered my dog again.
>
>
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future
>
>
>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Jody ianuzzi via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I heard a story once of someone who sold the off leash dog problem very
>> ingeniously. He was told over and over that he would have to identify
>> the dog in order to have the police or animal control do anything about
>> it. He went to the store and bought a small can of fluorescent orange
>> paint. The next time the stray dog came after him he sprayed the dog
>> with the paint. He called the police and said that the dog is now very
>> identifiable, it was orange
>>
>> JODY
>>
>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>
>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>> Erik Weihenmayer
>>
>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 9:13 AM, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We have the leash law here where I live, but calling the city, what we
>>> discuss lands on deaf ears. The dogs try to distract our dogs when
>>> we're relieving our guides. My husband called one time and while he
>>> explained we both have guide dogs, the woman on the phone gave us a
>>> solution: "Why don't you get in your car and drive to a more secluded
>>> area?" Great! I'm sure she'd like us driving! Reminded again that we
>>> have guide dogs, she just said, "Oh!" The problem is that dogs have to
>>> be seen off leash. People know to keep their dogs on a leash during the
>>> day. However, after 4:00 PM, they no that there isn't a soul who will
>>> catch them. Next time I'll have pictures taken. The neighbors think
>>> yelling at their dogs will be great discipline! Half the time it
>>> doesn't work for children these days let alone unruly dogs. Smiling.
>>> Next time, more severe action will be taken!
>>>
>>> halogirl817 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Phone: 918-884-8352
>>>
>>> Sent from My Eye Phone 8+
>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 6:15 AM, Marilyn tucci via NAGDU
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> good morning Andy,
>>>> The first thing you need to do is find out if your county or town has
>>>> a leash law. If it does find out where the people live who let there
>>>> dogs loose and contact animal control. You can also call them to find
>>>> out if there is a leash law in your town or county. If there isn't you
>>>> need to meet with your Legislator and Senators to ask them to put a
>>>> bill in. We have one in my town and people do get fined if they are
>>>> caught. We also have a law that no other dog is to interfere with a
>>>> guide dog. I had an incident a few years ago with my dog Anna who is
>>>> now retired. we were in LOWES with a friend and she spotted a man with
>>>> two huge lab. When they spotted Anna they started to pull him and he
>>>> was having trouble controlling them . I went to a different isle as my
>>>> friend spoke to the man. He stated his dogs are allowed in the store
>>>> and they are on leash. In the back of the store I was being helped by
>>>> a sales person when the man went to the back to look for his wife.
>>>> Again the dogs were pulling to get to Anna and it wasn't friendly
>>>> noises both were making. My friend again spoke to him and his wife
>>>> said our dogs are friendly. Not the way they were acting. I told the
>>>> salesperson they should be asked to leave as I was very uncomfortable
>>>> with the situation . I was told by the store manager that LOWES and
>>>> HOME DEPOT are pet friendly stores and the dogs didn't do anything to
>>>> my dog. I said yes because we avoided them but the man had trouble
>>>> controlling them . what if those two dogs broke away from him. My dog
>>>> wouldn't stand a chance. Anna is a very friendly dog. My new dog
>>>> Hedwig is too. Now I carry spray with me just in cast. If I ever had
>>>> to use it I would stand in front of my dog while I sprayed it.
>>>> Marilyn and the girls
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:06 AM, Andy Borka via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On occasion, I have to deal with people and their loose dogs. One
>>>>> time, I had to deal with what appeared to be a fake service dog.
>>>>> Unfortunately, if we can't see the dog/handler, or we don't know the
>>>>> person who owns the "service dog", we can only assume what it is or
>>>>> isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was in Walmart, a huge Shepard twice the size of Alec started
>>>>> barking and causing a fit. Fortunately, Alec kept his cool for the
>>>>> most part. The entire event was caught on security video, and the
>>>>> manager sorted out the problem fairly quickly. He told me that the
>>>>> only thing to do at this point is to give the other handler a
>>>>> warning. The manager also gave me some advice: You handler your dog
>>>>> and not concern yourself with everyone else. If the authorities get
>>>>> involved, let them decide what happens with the other party. It isn't
>>>>> your problem to figure out if the annoying dog on the corner is
>>>>> valid, or the 130LB threatening Sheppard is a service dog. You know
>>>>> your situation, and it is best to keep focus on and control of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/18 7:35 PM, Sandra Johnson via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>> Tara:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, congratulations on your new dog.  She sounds like a great
>>>>>> match for you and your family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loose dogs are definitely a problem.  I face it every day too.  I
>>>>>> live in a senior housing development made up of 74 duplex houses
>>>>>> with front and back yards.  Even though the property management
>>>>>> constantly sends out reminders that all dogs must be kept on leash a
>>>>>> lot of residents ignore the rules. When I have discussed this
>>>>>> problem with management explaining how the loose dogs can distract
>>>>>> my guide from doing her work the manager says there isn't anything
>>>>>> she can do other than not to renew their lease when it runs out. Her
>>>>>> only other suggestion is for me to report it to the police. The
>>>>>> problem with that is that the police want to know what house it is
>>>>>> and what the dog looks like.  I tell them I cannot know that because
>>>>>> I am blind so they say there is nothing they can do.  It is very
>>>>>> frustrating.  I get mad when I come across the loose dog and all
>>>>>> their owners do is call to their dog from their patio without
>>>>>> getting up and actually coming out to the sidewalk to get their dog.
>>>>>>  Some tenants do have their dogs on a leash but it is so long that
>>>>>> the dog can still reach the sidewalks.  The sighted people can see
>>>>>> their dogs interfering with my guide dog and they still sit on their
>>>>>> lazy behinds doing nothing to control their dogs.  I have also
>>>>>> encountered other residents walking their dogs on a leash.  Their
>>>>>> dog will bark and growl at my dog and the people do not do anything
>>>>>> to correct and control their dog. Some people say their dog just
>>>>>> wants to say hi and play with my dog.  I explain to the dumb person
>>>>>> that it is obvious by Eva's harness that she is a guide dog so is
>>>>>> not out to play and make friends with their dogs.  It is amazing how
>>>>>> stupid some sighted people are.  I recently encountered a couple of
>>>>>> fake service dogs in a store that also attempted to distract Eva
>>>>>> from her work.  When I pointed it out to the store manager he said
>>>>>> he had to let them in because the dogs were service dogs.  I gave
>>>>>> him a copy of the DOJ definition of a service dog and emphasized the
>>>>>> point that if the dogs are creating a disturbance he had the right
>>>>>> to ask that they be removed from the property.  He told me he is
>>>>>> afraid to say anything because he has been threatened with law suits
>>>>>> if he does not let them in.  It is very frustrating that we have to
>>>>>> deal with out of control dogs everywhere we go. I wish I had some
>>>>>> answers for you but from my experience there is not much we can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tara, good luck with your new dog and I hope the loose dog problem
>>>>>> gets better in your neighborhood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandra and Eva
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tara Briggs via NAGDU
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:40 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: Tara Briggs
>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Off leash dogs! What can I do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all! Do any of you have advice about off leash dogs and what to
>>>>>> do about it? In the past two days I have encountered three off leash
>>>>>> dogs. I live in a condo complex and there are people around here
>>>>>> that arenâ€™t very responsible.   I have sent an email
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To the property managers of my condo complex asking them to remind
>>>>>> tenants that it is by regulation of the  complex and by law they
>>>>>> have to keep the dogs on leash. Today my mom and I went over to a
>>>>>> local farmers market. This farmers market is it a playground and we
>>>>>> decided we would take my girls over to the playground to play.
>>>>>> Somebody thought it would be cute to let their family dog just run
>>>>>> around off leash with the kids. Fortunately this dog was friendly
>>>>>> and like the two off leash dogs at my complex. Still it was
>>>>>> distracting to my seeing-eye dog.  I have to confess I donâ€™t envy
>>>>>> the owner of the dog because my mom is able to see and went over to
>>>>>> the owner and gave her hell. The owner immediately put her dog
>>>>>> unleash. Is there anything that any of you have found it is
>>>>>> effective? My current guide and I have been home from the Seeing AI
>>>>>> for two weeks on Monday. Sheâ€™s a black lab named prudence. She is
>>>>>> two years old. Sheâ€™s very sweet and very smart. The thing that is
>>>>>> the most hopeful about her is she is able to guide me while I am
>>>>>> pulling a wagon with my kids in it behind us. My previous guide was
>>>>>> older when I had my kids and she was never able to figure how to do
>>>>>> that. This certainly has opened up a lot of  Independence for me!
>>>>>> But I have to say itâ€™s pretty scary when Iâ€™m walking down the
>>>>>> sidewalk and all the sudden we are being growled at. I can hear the
>>>>>> owner calling their dog but the dog is not paying any attention to
>>>>>> the owner and is far more interested in  growling at us.
>>>>>> Fortunately, I have not experienced a dog attacked. But the thought
>>>>>> of that happening is pretty darn terrifying!
>>>>>> Tara
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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