[NAGDU] Off leash dogs! What can I do?

Dar dmgina at mysero.net
Mon Oct 22 19:50:26 UTC 2018 

Yes that is what I did at the time! 
I don’t keep it around. 

Dar
Every saint has a past, 
Every sinner has a future 


> On Oct 22, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dar.
> You sprayed the pepper spray on the street?  That sounds easy, if the
> other dog licks it.
> Tracy
> 
>> What did the owner think of that!
>> I lived in the projects where the dog walked across the street, bite my
>> dogs back legs then went home.
>> I got pepper spray sprayed street, dog came over licked spray, never
>> bothered my dog again.
>> 
>> 
>> Dar
>> Every saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:15 PM, Jody ianuzzi via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I heard a story once of someone who sold the off leash dog problem very
>>> ingeniously. He was told over and over that he would have to identify
>>> the dog in order to have the police or animal control do anything about
>>> it. He went to the store and bought a small can of fluorescent orange
>>> paint. The next time the stray dog came after him he sprayed the dog
>>> with the paint. He called the police and said that the dog is now very
>>> identifiable, it was orange
>>> 
>>> JODY
>>> 
>>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS
>>> Erik Weihenmayer
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 9:13 AM, sunshine via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We have the leash law here where I live, but calling the city, what we
>>>> discuss lands on deaf ears. The dogs try to distract our dogs when
>>>> we're relieving our guides. My husband called one time and while he
>>>> explained we both have guide dogs, the woman on the phone gave us a
>>>> solution: "Why don't you get in your car and drive to a more secluded
>>>> area?" Great! I'm sure she'd like us driving! Reminded again that we
>>>> have guide dogs, she just said, "Oh!" The problem is that dogs have to
>>>> be seen off leash. People know to keep their dogs on a leash during the
>>>> day. However, after 4:00 PM, they no that there isn't a soul who will
>>>> catch them. Next time I'll have pictures taken. The neighbors think
>>>> yelling at their dogs will be great discipline! Half the time it
>>>> doesn't work for children these days let alone unruly dogs. Smiling.
>>>> Next time, more severe action will be taken!
>>>> 
>>>> halogirl817 at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: 918-884-8352
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from My Eye Phone 8+
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2018, at 6:15 AM, Marilyn tucci via NAGDU
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> good morning Andy,
>>>>> The first thing you need to do is find out if your county or town has
>>>>> a leash law. If it does find out where the people live who let there
>>>>> dogs loose and contact animal control. You can also call them to find
>>>>> out if there is a leash law in your town or county. If there isn't you
>>>>> need to meet with your Legislator and Senators to ask them to put a
>>>>> bill in. We have one in my town and people do get fined if they are
>>>>> caught. We also have a law that no other dog is to interfere with a
>>>>> guide dog. I had an incident a few years ago with my dog Anna who is
>>>>> now retired. we were in LOWES with a friend and she spotted a man with
>>>>> two huge lab. When they spotted Anna they started to pull him and he
>>>>> was having trouble controlling them . I went to a different isle as my
>>>>> friend spoke to the man. He stated his dogs are allowed in the store
>>>>> and they are on leash. In the back of the store I was being helped by
>>>>> a sales person when the man went to the back to look for his wife.
>>>>> Again the dogs were pulling to get to Anna and it wasn't friendly
>>>>> noises both were making. My friend again spoke to him and his wife
>>>>> said our dogs are friendly. Not the way they were acting. I told the
>>>>> salesperson they should be asked to leave as I was very uncomfortable
>>>>> with the situation . I was told by the store manager that LOWES and
>>>>> HOME DEPOT are pet friendly stores and the dogs didn't do anything to
>>>>> my dog. I said yes because we avoided them but the man had trouble
>>>>> controlling them . what if those two dogs broke away from him. My dog
>>>>> wouldn't stand a chance. Anna is a very friendly dog. My new dog
>>>>> Hedwig is too. Now I carry spray with me just in cast. If I ever had
>>>>> to use it I would stand in front of my dog while I sprayed it.
>>>>> Marilyn and the girls
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:06 AM, Andy Borka via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On occasion, I have to deal with people and their loose dogs. One
>>>>>> time, I had to deal with what appeared to be a fake service dog.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, if we can't see the dog/handler, or we don't know the
>>>>>> person who owns the "service dog", we can only assume what it is or
>>>>>> isn't.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I was in Walmart, a huge Shepard twice the size of Alec started
>>>>>> barking and causing a fit. Fortunately, Alec kept his cool for the
>>>>>> most part. The entire event was caught on security video, and the
>>>>>> manager sorted out the problem fairly quickly. He told me that the
>>>>>> only thing to do at this point is to give the other handler a
>>>>>> warning. The manager also gave me some advice: You handler your dog
>>>>>> and not concern yourself with everyone else. If the authorities get
>>>>>> involved, let them decide what happens with the other party. It isn't
>>>>>> your problem to figure out if the annoying dog on the corner is
>>>>>> valid, or the 130LB threatening Sheppard is a service dog. You know
>>>>>> your situation, and it is best to keep focus on and control of it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/20/18 7:35 PM, Sandra Johnson via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>>> Tara:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First, congratulations on your new dog.  She sounds like a great
>>>>>>> match for you and your family.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Loose dogs are definitely a problem.  I face it every day too.  I
>>>>>>> live in a senior housing development made up of 74 duplex houses
>>>>>>> with front and back yards.  Even though the property management
>>>>>>> constantly sends out reminders that all dogs must be kept on leash a
>>>>>>> lot of residents ignore the rules. When I have discussed this
>>>>>>> problem with management explaining how the loose dogs can distract
>>>>>>> my guide from doing her work the manager says there isn't anything
>>>>>>> she can do other than not to renew their lease when it runs out. Her
>>>>>>> only other suggestion is for me to report it to the police. The
>>>>>>> problem with that is that the police want to know what house it is
>>>>>>> and what the dog looks like.  I tell them I cannot know that because
>>>>>>> I am blind so they say there is nothing they can do.  It is very
>>>>>>> frustrating.  I get mad when I come across the loose dog and all
>>>>>>> their owners do is call to their dog from their patio without
>>>>>>> getting up and actually coming out to the sidewalk to get their dog.
>>>>>>> Some tenants do have their dogs on a leash but it is so long that
>>>>>>> the dog can still reach the sidewalks.  The sighted people can see
>>>>>>> their dogs interfering with my guide dog and they still sit on their
>>>>>>> lazy behinds doing nothing to control their dogs.  I have also
>>>>>>> encountered other residents walking their dogs on a leash.  Their
>>>>>>> dog will bark and growl at my dog and the people do not do anything
>>>>>>> to correct and control their dog. Some people say their dog just
>>>>>>> wants to say hi and play with my dog.  I explain to the dumb person
>>>>>>> that it is obvious by Eva's harness that she is a guide dog so is
>>>>>>> not out to play and make friends with their dogs.  It is amazing how
>>>>>>> stupid some sighted people are.  I recently encountered a couple of
>>>>>>> fake service dogs in a store that also attempted to distract Eva
>>>>>>> from her work.  When I pointed it out to the store manager he said
>>>>>>> he had to let them in because the dogs were service dogs.  I gave
>>>>>>> him a copy of the DOJ definition of a service dog and emphasized the
>>>>>>> point that if the dogs are creating a disturbance he had the right
>>>>>>> to ask that they be removed from the property.  He told me he is
>>>>>>> afraid to say anything because he has been threatened with law suits
>>>>>>> if he does not let them in.  It is very frustrating that we have to
>>>>>>> deal with out of control dogs everywhere we go. I wish I had some
>>>>>>> answers for you but from my experience there is not much we can do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tara, good luck with your new dog and I hope the loose dog problem
>>>>>>> gets better in your neighborhood.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sandra and Eva
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Tara Briggs via NAGDU
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:40 PM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Cc: Tara Briggs
>>>>>>> Subject: [NAGDU] Off leash dogs! What can I do?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey all! Do any of you have advice about off leash dogs and what to
>>>>>>> do about it? In the past two days I have encountered three off leash
>>>>>>> dogs. I live in a condo complex and there are people around here
>>>>>>> that aren’t very responsible.   I have sent an email
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To the property managers of my condo complex asking them to remind
>>>>>>> tenants that it is by regulation of the  complex and by law they
>>>>>>> have to keep the dogs on leash. Today my mom and I went over to a
>>>>>>> local farmers market. This farmers market is it a playground and we
>>>>>>> decided we would take my girls over to the playground to play.
>>>>>>> Somebody thought it would be cute to let their family dog just run
>>>>>>> around off leash with the kids. Fortunately this dog was friendly
>>>>>>> and like the two off leash dogs at my complex. Still it was
>>>>>>> distracting to my seeing-eye dog.  I have to confess I don’t envy
>>>>>>> the owner of the dog because my mom is able to see and went over to
>>>>>>> the owner and gave her hell. The owner immediately put her dog
>>>>>>> unleash. Is there anything that any of you have found it is
>>>>>>> effective? My current guide and I have been home from the Seeing AI
>>>>>>> for two weeks on Monday. She’s a black lab named prudence. She is
>>>>>>> two years old. She’s very sweet and very smart. The thing that is
>>>>>>> the most hopeful about her is she is able to guide me while I am
>>>>>>> pulling a wagon with my kids in it behind us. My previous guide was
>>>>>>> older when I had my kids and she was never able to figure how to do
>>>>>>> that. This certainly has opened up a lot of  Independence for me!
>>>>>>> But I have to say it’s pretty scary when I’m walking down the
>>>>>>> sidewalk and all the sudden we are being growled at. I can hear the
>>>>>>> owner calling their dog but the dog is not paying any attention to
>>>>>>> the owner and is far more interested in  growling at us.
>>>>>>> Fortunately, I have not experienced a dog attacked. But the thought
>>>>>>> of that happening is pretty darn terrifying!
>>>>>>> Tara
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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