[NAGDU] O and m immersion programs

[sheila leigland]

hi, I can remember here in Montana we were lucky if we could get o.andm  
training once every three months and often less than that dependent on 
traveling conditions for the staff. Each region handled by staff comvers 
hundreds of miles.

On 8/22/2019 6:13 PM, marianne denning via NAGDU wrote:
> I don't think it was ever meant to teach O&M in 5 days. It was meant to help
> someone get a good start in learning O&M skills and return to their home and
> continue to receive O&M training. In many parts of the country a person is
> lucky to get an hour a week of O&M instruction.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 11:05 AM
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> Hi, all.
> This is by no means a critique of such a program as that at Leader, but how
> do you become proficient with a cane in five days? I can sort of see it if
> you are going to acquire a guide dog soon, for I've seen people who had not
> a clue. But I've also, as I said before, seen people thinking to go there
> for mobility training. A particular person was already in a program where
> she had been for several months, but she didn't feel she was gaining
> anything. How would a five day program such as this really help her, or is
> it honestly mainly for folks planning to have a guide dog.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:44 AM
> To: Amanda Cape via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: David <david at bakerinet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] O and m immersion programs
>
> Hi Amanda,
>
> Leader Dogs for the Blind in Rochester, Michigan has a very good 5 day
> program called Advanced Mobility Program (AMP). I had used a white cane for
> 20 years before I applied. While I was a good cane user (I used a university
> mobility training manual), I'm really glad I signed up. Lots new to learn. I
> requested to use vision occluders during part of the training and was amazed
> at the additional clue and cues you can get from your other senses.
> Revisiting things I thought I knew and correcting bad habits has been
> invaluable.
>
> When you're accepted, they and you pick a date. Your transportation there is
> free, room and board (with good food) is free, the facility is clean, and
> the instructors are good.
>
> While I was accepted there for a guide dog the next year, their guide dog
> program was twenty-six days. I would have gone batty with all the down time
> (one instructor to 4 or 5 students). So, I went to the Guide Dog Foundation
> in Smithtown, New York for their two week program, and, I have to say, an
> absolutely brilliant, joyful, and perfect Lab/Golden cross.
>
> It is a nice area of Michigan. I used to lead AYH bicycle trips up in this
> area from Detroit in my early twenties 29 years ago. There was a cider mill
> very close by, so if you are up there this Fall it is a great place for a
> side trip.
>
> *David & Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL*
> *david at bakerinet.com*
> *
> *
> On 8/22/2019 5:36 AM, Amanda Cape via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I just discovered that o and m immersion programs exist for people who
> want to get a guide dog and improve their o and m skills. Has anyone
> completed one of these programs? If so, which one and what was your
> experience?
>> Thanks,e
>>
>> Amanda
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