[NAGDU] Aira, or Be My Eyes

Sat Feb 9 03:00:23 UTC 2019

Hi mike,
Do come back on the list on how you can get some of this worked out, 
when you don't have the glasses and will need the phone.
I with dog and many times a walking cane, find it hard to wonder what 
to do next.
What I would enjoy is still having the independents on getting around, 
with out having to wait for a group to help out.
I don't know any organization that would help me out.
I am hoping in time that more companies will realize how the blind 
benefit from the program ira.
Thanks,
Original message:
> A variety of reasons why Aira is better for most tasks. First are the Aira
> agents who are trained to describe. You know what you get with any Aira
> agent. This is not the case with Be My Eyes. Also, to keep this a bit on
> topic, Aira Agents know how to describe information for guide dog users.


> Mike H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 11:48 AM
> To: 'mike at michaelhingson.com' <mike at michaelhingson.com>; 'NAGDU Mailing
> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: 'Tracy Carcione' <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: RE: [NAGDU] Aira, or Be My Eyes

> Aftershokz are great. Yes it would be oversimplifying things to say that
> Aira and Be My Eyes are strictly speaking, comparable. My focus was just on
> what tools I might or might not use to complete a task.

> Melissa R. Allman
> Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations The Seeing Eye, Inc.
> P.O. Box 375, Morristown, NJ 07963-0375 (mail)
> 10 Washington Valley Road, Morristown, NJ 07960-3412 (deliveries)
> 973-539-4425 ext. 1724,     Fax:  973-525-1081 mallman at SeeingEye.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike at michaelhingson.com [mailto:mike at michaelhingson.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 2:39 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Melissa Allman; 'Tracy Carcione'
> Subject: RE: [NAGDU] Aira, or Be My Eyes

> Aira is not really comparable to Be My Eyes. Aira agents are trained to
> described in Navigating as well as countless other tasks.

> I do agree with you about using something that doesn't block your ears.
> Aftershokz bone conduction headphones work well as several different
> Bluetooth speakers like the Bose Soundware speakers that project into the
> ear.

> If you ever want to talk more about Aira feel free to give me a call at
> (415) 827-4084.


> Mike H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Melissa Allman via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 11:24 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>; 'Tracy Carcione'
> <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Aira, or Be My Eyes

> I've only tried Be My Eyes with something stationary. I would never try it
> with navigation tasks. Just my take on it. And yes I feel like there should
> be a way to grow an extra hand because I run out when using Aira but that's
> just because I currently lack a Bluetooth headset that's paired with it. If
> you have one, you can have the phone in your pocket and not hold anything
> extra. I like to use it with headphones that do not cover my ears so traffic
> sounds are not obscured.

> Melissa R. Allman
> Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations The Seeing Eye, Inc.
> P.O. Box 375, Morristown, NJ 07963-0375 (mail)
> 10 Washington Valley Road, Morristown, NJ 07960-3412 (deliveries)
> 973-539-4425 ext. 1724,     Fax:  973-525-1081 mallman at SeeingEye.org


> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 2:20 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: [NAGDU] Aira, or Be My Eyes

> I've used Be My Eyes, but only while standing still.  It seems to me it
> would be harder to use while on the move.  For instance, it would be handy
> to use Aira on an upcoming trip to get through the airports and to find my
> shuttle.  But how does one have the dog in one hand, the roller bag in
> another, and wave the phone with yet another?  Oops, out of hands.  Don't I
> need to wave the phone around so the helper can see what's around?  Or is it
> a series of stops and starts?  Krokus finds stops and starts mighty
> confusing, and I really can't blame him.  We both like to get on a roll and
> keep moving.

> Tracy


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